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Mekairinek Registered: Jul '09	Date Posted: 11/8 7:19am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed) - Date Edited: 11/8 7:21am (1 edits total) Edited By: Mekairinek
	FistoFan93 posted: You're actually the first person to have anything negative to say about this episode. Ah well, I guess you're a Senate Spy fan. Actually, I was lukewarm on that episode as well. I didn't hate it, but I probably wouldn't want to watch it again unless it was the only thing on TV. Then again, I'm not afraid to speak my mind, so if people get perturbed at the fact I'm the only one who didn't like this episode... awesome. -----signature----- "You better not fail me, bubble brain." My Fan Art: http://tinyurl.com/meks-art LJ's first Cad Bane Community: http://community.livejournal.com/fistfullofduros/
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TwiLekJedi Title: Classic Trilogy Manager Registered: Jun '01	Date Posted: 11/8 7:29am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
	Gry Sarth posted: Once again, coming in late for the party. My, uh... broadcasting company really let me down this time. Same here. Yeah. Broadcasting company. That's it I skipped half of this thread and only came here to say that the loooong single shot of the final charge was spectacularly awesome. That must have been hard work, but it paid off. It might actually be my second-favourite shot since Jedi Crash. Also, all those clones getting shot and snatched away (damn!) reminded me of the cruelty in the Malevolence episodes, and I noticed I was missing that. -----signature----- We do what we must Because we can For the good of all of us Except the ones who are dead
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Asharak Registered: Apr '03	Date Posted: 11/8 8:48am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
	"Once again, coming in late for the party. My, uh... broadcasting company really let me down this time." So say we all, there were a lot of "fake virus infested broadcasts" this time around. -----signature----- "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die." - Roy Batty
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Bly Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 11/8 9:02am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed) - Date Edited: 11/8 9:05am (1 edits total) Edited By: Bly
	Hmm...having re-watched the episode, I'm wondering if that Clone with the binoculars who briefed Cody is in fact Wooley. I doubt it, but it'd be cool. EDIT: I just noticed that everyone keeps referring to Jet as a Captain...maybe he's only a brevet Commander, or it's just a title awarded to him since he commands Ki-Adi-Mundi's task force? -----signature----- "Get the order and execute it. Let the Generals sort out the rest." -Commander Bly Proud recepient of Thrawn McEwok's Bronze Thranta™ "Politics is simply the continuation of war by other means." -Mandalore the Ultimate C/TSgt in the Civil Air Patrol
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Arawn_Fenn Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 11/8 9:35am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed) - Date Edited: 11/8 9:37am (1 edits total) Edited By: Arawn_Fenn
	Asharak posted: "Once again, coming in late for the party. My, uh... broadcasting company really let me down this time." So say we all, there were a lot of "fake virus infested broadcasts" this time around. And I thought it was just me. ArrogantJedi posted: This episode has given me great hope what they could be able to pull off by the time Season 5 or so comes along and they show the events leading into Episode III - Grievous capturing palpatine, escaping with him while being pursued by Mace and other Jedi across Coruscant from building to building, maglev, and the space battle above Coruscant itself. That was one of the best parts of the Tartakovsky series IMO. -----signature----- "Just when you think the amount of fail cannot possibly increase, the Internet keeps on giving." - SalvorHardin "Let's see them argue with nature and persuade the nonexistent polar bears not to eat them." - crownarmourer
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SergeantDante Registered: Sep '08	Date Posted: 11/8 10:35am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
	Best episode since Rookies, and somewhat better. Good characterization, Jedi maing mistakes, Anakin and Ashoka's game attitude to the CW being critiqued, and great battle scenes. This is the first episode of the series to get the Clone Wars right: massive fleets and multiple groups of clones on the ground. Even the return to Geonosis was explained properly. Only thing I can see wrong is the Cody on Geonosis thing, but that can be retconned away easily. -----signature----- Meesa lovah the admins so mucha. Meesa love all da authors and theysa products!!! meessa lovsa big brother and da mods!!!! 3 million forever!!! woot l33t mandos woot I love the Malevolence. Thanks to it, the "Noble Three Million" is in Non-canon Hell. The
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Gry Sarth Title: Moderator: LACWAC Registered: Jun '99	Date Posted: 11/8 11:31am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
	SergeantDante posted: Only thing I can see wrong is the Cody on Geonosis thing, but that can be retconned away easily. What is the "Cody on Geonosis thing"? There's really not much to be said against this episode. Aside from the "another secret factory on Geonosis" issue (which I prefer to blame on Senate Spy), there are no real issues at hand. My only critique would be that the story could have used a little twist along the road. As it is, after they get shot down, it's all pretty straightforward. Each group just goes on defeating whatever's in front of them until they get to the end. That would have been a problem if the whole "defeating whatever's in front of them" had not been handled so well, with so many cool moments and creative shots. This show really isn't one for surprises, it must be said. From the beginning of an episode you can pretty much guess everything that's going to happen. I think the only time I was realy surprised was with Cad Bane's "Ahsoka in the airlock" tactic. I really didn't see that one coming. -----signature----- If it weren't for bad luck I'd have no luck at all.
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izzy_the_hutt Registered: Oct '09	Date Posted: 11/8 11:33am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
	I don't think I saw the episode in high enough quality to get the full effect...never-the-less, I enjoyed it quite a bit more than I expected to (since everything I heard pointed to plotless action). It did have a plot...of sorts. One question I had...what was up with Anakin's reaction to Obi Wan being taken out of commission? "The one time I need his help...!" Was that his way of dealing with his master possibly being dead, or does he really view Obi Wan in such a utilitarian way?
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Gry Sarth Title: Moderator: LACWAC Registered: Jun '99	Date Posted: 11/8 11:39am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed) - Date Edited: 11/8 11:40am (1 edits total) Edited By: Gry Sarth
	No, he certainly doesn't deal with Obi-Wan in an utilitarian way. But, like he explained to Ahsoka, the middle of a battle is not the time to be worrying about an out-of-reach friend who might possibly be injured. The best way to avoid such a thing is to make light of it with a sly comment such as the one he made. -----signature----- If it weren't for bad luck I'd have no luck at all.
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Asharak Registered: Apr '03	Date Posted: 11/8 11:47am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
	"This show really isn't one for surprises, it must be said. From the beginning of an episode you can pretty much guess everything that's going to happen. I think the only time I was realy surprised was with Cad Bane's "Ahsoka in the airlock" tactic. I really didn't see that one coming." Argyu`s betrayal and death is pretty much the only things that’s surprised me. Everything else has usually been pretty straightforward. -----signature----- "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die." - Roy Batty
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GARTH_MAUL Title: LACWAC Manager & White Wizard Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 11/8 11:50am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
	I'm with Mek to a certain extent. This episode isn't in my top 5 episodes and probably wouldn't be in my top 10. Nevertheless, the animation/direction was top notch, the script was fine. It could have used maybe some Grievous or someone to give the Separatists a little direction, but as a lead-off for a four-part arc, can't complain. Also, I'm thinking Anakin finds battle to be similar to podracing - he doesn't have to think about anything. -----signature----- Dustin + Tina = 5 years of marriage Obama given First Annual Montgomery Burns Award for Outstanding Achievement in the Field of Excellence
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Gry Sarth Title: Moderator: LACWAC Registered: Jun '99	Date Posted: 11/8 11:54am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
	GARTH_MAUL posted: Also, I'm thinking Anakin finds battle to be similar to podracing - he doesn't have to think about anything. Exactly. He's always been a thrillseeker. Why would he start taking danger seriously now? That's why I hated that Ahsoka was the same way from the very beginning, making light of very dangerous situations and foes. That's a characteristic that should only have rubbed off on her after a season or two. -----signature----- If it weren't for bad luck I'd have no luck at all.
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AvadaKenobi Registered: Mar '09	Date Posted: 11/8 12:23pm Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
	Gry Sarth posted: No, he certainly doesn't deal with Obi-Wan in an utilitarian way. But, like he explained to Ahsoka, the middle of a battle is not the time to be worrying about an out-of-reach friend who might possibly be injured. The best way to avoid such a thing is to make light of it with a sly comment such as the one he made. I think Matt Lanter delivered that line a bit more aggressively than I would've liked, but yeah, I agree with you. I got the feeling that Anakin was being a bit facetious in his comment as a way of dealing with his worry. The way Anakin gingerly and carefully helped Obi-Wan back to the gunship is a good indicator of his feelings for his former Master and friend. -----signature----- ~Official Obi-Wan Kenobi Fangirl~ Obi-Wan: Tell me what you have learned during my absence. Anakin: Never to let you out of my sight, Master. You simply get into too much trouble on your own.
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Ludo_Kressh Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 11/8 12:35pm Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
	I have to agree as well...when I first heard him say it, I was 'dang, Anakin, like you haven't made a mistake like that!' and then when he tells Ahsoka he's worried about him too, I knew it had to be some sort of way of coping with the unknown fate of his friend and former master. And yes, the way he carried him to that gunship at the end and how he tried to brush off Ahsoka's attempts to tell her his kill count; his thoughts were on Obi-Wan's well-being. -----signature----- ~hopeless member of the Official General Grievous fanclub~ Be thankful, Viceroy...you have not found yourself in my grip! Everybody quiet! I have a call to make...
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Gry Sarth Title: Moderator: LACWAC Registered: Jun '99	Date Posted: 11/8 12:57pm Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed) - Date Edited: 11/8 2:45pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Gry Sarth
	Exactly. I agree that the line reading and the expression on his face made that comment sound a bit too honest. But the fact that right afterwards he tells Ahsoka he IS worried about him, but that they can't afford to think about that, shows he didn't really mean what he said. And for those critizing the kill count, the fact that Anakin brushes off Ahsoka's request to compare totals at the end shows the kill count was just a distraction, not something to be taken seriously. Another thing I noticed upon second viewing is that this episode goes a long way towards fixing the ridiculousness of the Separatists building a new secret factory in the same place of the old secret factory. From what we're told at the start of the episode, the issue here is not a badly hidden secret factory, but a planetary uprising, with both deactivated and new factories going back into production for the CIS. That makes a lot more sense. Geonosis had been pacified and pretty much forgotten as the Clone Wars continued. But now, all of a sudden, the geonosians have fully thrown their allegiance back to the Separatists and kicked the old factories back into work. Clovis' factory is just the main one, in a whole bunch of factories that are again operational. The battle we saw in this episode is just one among several battles that are going on concurrently all around the planet. That story I can accept. -----signature----- If it weren't for bad luck I'd have no luck at all.
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