Author Topic: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
Asharak  469 posts
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Date Posted: 11/8 12:35am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
"I know this sort of doesn't matter but did anyone think Yualren was being a total jerk when he was talking to Jet? I just had that vibe. Yualren also called Jet "captain", which would be insulting if I was "Commander" Jet."

Yularen has definitely become an arrogant jerk this season, he was pretty much always in the right this episode, but that doesn’t make him any less of an imperial officer type, which I think is great.

 

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ArrogantJedi  169 posts
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Date Posted: 11/8 1:06am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed) - Date Edited: 11/8 1:08am (1 edits total) Edited By: ArrogantJedi
Also, forgot to add, but I thought it was a nice touch that a few of the Gunships that were assigned to particular Jedi Generals were given identities of sorts. Such as Obi-Wan's having a Nexu on it and being called "Bad Kitty" and Ki-Adi's having a picture of a clone trooper head/skull with the name "Seperatist Nightmware". I've seen this in other movies or games where ships and tanks were given names such as "Independence", "Freedom", etc. Although, this is even cooler because they have a matching picture/icon to go with it. Would be awesome to see more of that, plus, in the heat of battle, you can more easily identify which Jedi are in which vehicle - as well as identify these vehicles in future episodes.

 

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Posted By: JediGeneral55 @ 12 April 2009, 6:27am Thread: *Official * General Grievous in TCW Thread (Spoilers)
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Asharak  469 posts
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Date Posted: 11/8 2:23am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
Rex sneaking up on the Droideka was pretty darn awesome.

 

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Ludo_Kressh  6211 posts
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Date Posted: 11/8 2:32am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
ArrogantJedi posted:
Also, forgot to add, but I thought it was a nice touch that a few of the Gunships that were assigned to particular Jedi Generals were given identities of sorts. Such as Obi-Wan's having a Nexu on it and being called "Bad Kitty" and Ki-Adi's having a picture of a clone trooper head/skull with the name "Seperatist Nightmware". I've seen this in other movies or games where ships and tanks were given names such as "Independence", "Freedom", etc. Although, this is even cooler because they have a matching picture/icon to go with it. Would be awesome to see more of that, plus, in the heat of battle, you can more easily identify which Jedi are in which vehicle - as well as identify these vehicles in future episodes.


Yeah, that was a pretty cool touch...and yeah, I certainly got a Starship Troopers vibe with the Geonosians as well. Heck, those bugs can actually fight! shock tongue And as for Yularen, I thought that diverting fighters to what would be the most important assualt on the planet would be a first priority, but I guess something else not known to us yet took precedence...or he was just being a jerk! tongue

 

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FistoFan93  136 posts
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Date Posted: 11/8 3:53am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
Even after all the extremely good reviews on this board, I was still stunned after having finally been able to watch this episode. Wow. OMG. Incredible.

Unlike many of you, I do like Ki's appearance on this series. Very CW-ish in my opinion. The luck thing was a bit stupid indeed, the only very small minor in this episode, which I find the best of all 27 episodes so far in the series.

I also really liked that in the end, Anakin takes over and tells to freakin Jedi Council Masters that he expects them to be back in combat when the main factory has been destroyed. I find this really depicts Anakin's rank within the Order, even though he's only a Knight. I also like that we have a valid reason for Luminara to take over from Ki and Obi-Wan in the next episode, not having just stay behind without a reason.

10/10

 

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ArrogantJedi  169 posts
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Date Posted: 11/8 4:21am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed) - Date Edited: 11/8 6:31pm (1 edits total) Edited By: The2ndQuest
I watched the episode again, and the person who pointed out that either Waxer or Boil has a small drawing of Numa on his helmet was correct! You see it quite clearly when the two of them rescue Obi-Wan from the downed gunship.

Also, I noticed that it isn't just the one gunship that has the identity/icon, it seems like there are a few of them. Obi-Wan and his troops crashed in a "Bad Kitty" gunship, but Cody landed safely in one too, and at the end when Ki-Adi arrives to backup Anakin at the end of the battle (and returns to the gunship with an injured Obi-Wan), it is another "Bad Kitty". So it seems they have created a fleet of each, and assigned a particular fleet to a particular Jedi General and his/her troops.

Would be interesting to see if they have or will create more fleets for different Jedi such as Anakin, Kit, Mace, Aayla, Plo. Mace definately needs one that screams of "badass mother ****er".

EDIT- you need to star the whole word out.

 

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Posted By: JediGeneral55 @ 12 April 2009, 6:27am Thread: *Official * General Grievous in TCW Thread (Spoilers)
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koonfan  526 posts
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Date Posted: 11/8 4:43am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed) - Date Edited: 11/8 6:32pm (2 edits total) Edited By: The2ndQuest
ArrogantJedi posted:
Would be interesting to see if they have or will create more fleets for different Jedi such as Anakin, Kit, Mace, Aayla, Plo. Mace definately needs one that screams of "badass mother ****er".

I think Plo Koon was lucky enough to have a gunship in his name...that, or the troopers REALLY like him. They call it Plo's Bros. Got it from the Holocron Heist episode guide. grin

 

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Darth_Comrade  96 posts
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Date Posted: 11/8 4:57am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
Absoultely fantastic episode. I expected something brilliant, but not at this scale!

I love how they keep blowing me away with each new episode. And this one had it all, from the action, to the drama and even the humor. Obi Wan's sarcasm really came out in this one, and Anakin and Ahsoka's bantering was funny as usual, while Ki Adi surprised me with one last jab at Anakin, which of course was rather heartwarming...considering how the war ends.

"My everlasting respect, Master Mundi." Anakin replies.

And perhaps one of my favorite moments among many was Anakin's last charge and just when you thought the battle was over. Those clones were actually keeping up!




 

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AnakinBrego  867 posts
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Date Posted: 11/8 5:19am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
Wow the battle footage was brutal. grin Nowhere has a Star Wars battle been done at this scale before!

 

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ArrogantJedi  169 posts
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Date Posted: 11/8 5:31am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
koonfan posted:
ArrogantJedi posted:
Would be interesting to see if they have or will create more fleets for different Jedi such as Anakin, Kit, Mace, Aayla, Plo. Mace definately needs one that screams of "badass mother f***ker".

I think Plo Koon was lucky enough to have a gunship in his name...that, or the troopers REALLY like him. They call it Plo's Bros. Got it from the Holocron Heist episode guide. grin


Didn't notice that! I watched the Felucia battle in Episode 1 and you are right! the Gunships that were with Plo and land to pickup Obi-Wan and Anakin (as well as Ahsoka) have the "Plo's Bros" identity.

Will be very interesting to see what the other Jedi get.

 

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Posted By: JediGeneral55 @ 12 April 2009, 6:27am Thread: *Official * General Grievous in TCW Thread (Spoilers)
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Gry Sarth  1930 posts
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Date Posted: 11/8 6:06am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed) - Date Edited: 11/8 11:45am (3 edits total) Edited By: Gry Sarth
Once again, coming in late for the party. My, uh... broadcasting company really let me down this time.

Anyway, what can I say? Absolutely superb episode. As far as wall-to-wall action goes, this is as good as it's ever got. Not to say that it doesn't have its very good character moments and pretty serviceable story.

Animation-wise this is by FAR the best episode. Tons of very carefully thought-out shots and imaginative camerawork, rich environments that never feel cheap, perfect texturing of the characters as they get more bruised and dirty, wonderfully fluid animation, especially some great gesturing by Ahsoka. And the sheer count of "awesome" moments is staggering. From the shocking "good thing bugs can't shoot" scene and geonosian BBQ, to beautiful shots of Y-Wing formations and geonosian bikers.

The final attack did feel a little underwhelming, but in the context of the episode it must be understood that the hard part was getting everybody to the assembly zone. With that done, the final push wasn't that big a deal. I also loved how much time they dedicated to the initial strategy briefing scene. That sort of care for the setup of the episode really helps elevate the episode beyond simple WAM BOOM.

Obi-Wan sitting down was simply beautiful. Such a quiet and strange scene amid the frantic battle really drives home the point that the war is taking its toll on poor Obi-Wan. He's injured, he's tired and there's just no end in sight for this whole mess. Obi-Wan doesn't want to be a warrior, he wants to be a Jedi.

Now, Anakin WANTS to be a warrior. He doesn't care if the Clone Wars last for 100 years, if it means he can fight battles, kill bad guys and generally be awesome. That is why the kill count doesn't bother me in the least. For me it was clearly a symptom of how much the Jedi are losing themselves in this war. Soldiers keep kill counts, that's perfectly normal. But we wouldn't expect the high and mighty Jedi to do the same. So when we do see Anakin and Ahsoka playfully comparing kills, it is strange and troubling. And it should very well BE troubling. That's the whole point! "In this war a danger there is, of losing who we are."

 

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Mekairinek  206 posts
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Date Posted: 11/8 6:07am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
I finally got around to seeing this and... I'm sorry, guys, but I was bored to tears through most of the episode. =/

I mean, Obi's parts were the only compelling parts of the whole episode. I really could have cared less about everything else. Maybe the episode will get better in subsequent viewings and stuff -especially with the whole Geonosis saga-, but I'm just not feelin' it right now.

 

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FistoFan93  136 posts
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Date Posted: 11/8 6:15am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
You're actually the first person to have anything negative to say about this episode. Ah well, I guess you're a Senate Spy fan.

 

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Gry Sarth  1930 posts
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Date Posted: 11/8 6:19am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
There have been plenty of criticism before, even though the episode was generally quite well received.

We must understand that people have different tastes, and this show is trying to cater to them all. Senate Spy and Landing were pretty much the two extremes of the spectrum, so it's understandable if people don't care for one or the other. Nothing wrong with that.

But at least Landing didn't introduce horrible inconsistencies to the established canon.

 

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Gry Sarth  1930 posts
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Date Posted: 11/8 6:43am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
Also nice to see how Yularen is becoming the typical obnoxious by-the-book Imperial commander. It's good to see a not-so-nice guy among the good guys.

 

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