Author Topic: Admiral Yularen will get "promoted" to colonel??
Grytpype  279 posts
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Date Posted: 11/8 1:49am Subject: Admiral Yularen will get "promoted" to colonel??
Hi,
The other day I saw for the first that Hasbro had released an action figure set of the Death Star briefing room scene in EPISODE IV and I saw a "Colonel Wullf Yularen" named in the set.
According to the Wookiepedia (Yularen is not mention in the official sites' Databank) that this is indeed Admiral Yularen of THE CLONE WARS. It's the officer in the white uniform.

The Wookiepedia says that in the commentary for THE CLONE WARS MOVIE, "it was explained by the creators that Yularen was portrayed as an admiral as a means of showing him rising through the ranks to Grand Admiral—which, the creators believed, was his rank in Episode IV given the fact that the unnamed actor who portrayed Yularen wore a white uniform similar to that of the Grand Admirals." - although I never knew his name I believed this also.

Apparently details of Yularen's post–Clone Wars career appear in The Force Unleashed Campaign Guide. Can anybody tell how Yularen ends up with the lower rank of colonel? Does he resign after THE CLONE WARS? Why does he not rise higher in the ranks?

No CLONE WARS episode spoilers please.

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Asharak  469 posts
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Date Posted: 11/8 3:10am Subject: Admiral Yularen will get "promoted" to colonel??
People can say what they want, but in my version of canon our boy Wulf definitely became a Grand Admiral.

 

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GGrievous  623 posts
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Date Posted: 11/8 7:13am Subject: Admiral Yularen will get "promoted" to colonel??
Once the Republic became the Empire, Yularen soon joined the "Imperial Security Bureau," mainly the Empire's security, and he served as a colonel. He eventually served on the Death Star in 0 BBY, and died instantly when the battle station exploded over Yavin 4. True stuff. :P

 

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star-wars-insider-50  265 posts
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Date Posted: 11/8 7:45am Subject: Admiral Yularen will get "promoted" to colonel??
GGrievous posted:
Once the Republic became the Empire, Yularen soon joined the "Imperial Security Bureau," mainly the Empire's security, and he served as a colonel. He eventually served on the Death Star in 0 BBY, and died instantly when the battle station exploded over Yavin 4. True stuff. :P


Not if anything to say about it, Filoni has

 

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GGrievous  623 posts
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Date Posted: 11/8 7:50am Subject: Admiral Yularen will get "promoted" to colonel??
star-wars-insider-50 posted:
GGrievous posted:
Once the Republic became the Empire, Yularen soon joined the "Imperial Security Bureau," mainly the Empire's security, and he served as a colonel. He eventually served on the Death Star in 0 BBY, and died instantly when the battle station exploded over Yavin 4. True stuff. :P


Not if anything to say about it, Filoni has


It's not his decision to retcon that, however. Let me remind us that this is GL's creation, not Filoni's.

 

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Asharak  469 posts
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Date Posted: 11/8 8:45am Subject: Admiral Yularen will get "promoted" to colonel??
We were never given any evidence that Yularen was on the Death Star when it blew up. He could have left on one of the Star Destroyers that orbited the station at the beginning of the movie.

 

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GGrievous  623 posts
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Date Posted: 11/8 9:06am Subject: Admiral Yularen will get "promoted" to colonel?? - Date Edited: 11/8 9:07am (1 edits total) Edited By: GGrievous
Asharak posted:
We were never given any evidence that Yularen was on the Death Star when it blew up. He could have left on one of the Star Destroyers that orbited the station at the beginning of the movie.


The SWE, and the CSWE says he dies on the Death Star.

 

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Gry Sarth  1930 posts
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Date Posted: 11/8 11:36am Subject: Admiral Yularen will get "promoted" to colonel??
GGrievous posted:
star-wars-insider-50 posted:
GGrievous posted:
Once the Republic became the Empire, Yularen soon joined the "Imperial Security Bureau," mainly the Empire's security, and he served as a colonel. He eventually served on the Death Star in 0 BBY, and died instantly when the battle station exploded over Yavin 4. True stuff. :P

Not if anything to say about it, Filoni has

It's not his decision to retcon that, however. Let me remind us that this is GL's creation, not Filoni's.

Yes, but it most likely wasn't GL who wrote that little tidbit about Yularen's demise. It's probably the work of some EU author or whatnot. So if Filoni decides to establish something different, it's unlikely that GL would have anything against it.

 

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Asharak  469 posts
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Date Posted: 11/8 12:17pm Subject: Admiral Yularen will get "promoted" to colonel??
"The SWE, and the CSWE says he dies on the Death Star."

Can you translate for the humble grasshopper?

 

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Ludo_Kressh  6211 posts
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Date Posted: 11/8 12:45pm Subject: Admiral Yularen will get "promoted" to colonel??
Asharak posted:
"The SWE, and the CSWE says he dies on the Death Star."

Can you translate for the humble grasshopper?


I imagine it's Star Wars Encyclopedia and the Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia confused

 

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Asharak  469 posts
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Date Posted: 11/8 12:52pm Subject: Admiral Yularen will get "promoted" to colonel??
Thanks for the answer.

If that’s the only place its written, then I wouldn’t really say its written in stone.

 

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GGrievous  623 posts
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Date Posted: 11/8 12:54pm Subject: Admiral Yularen will get "promoted" to colonel??
Ludo_Kressh posted:
Asharak posted:
"The SWE, and the CSWE says he dies on the Death Star."

Can you translate for the humble grasshopper?


I imagine it's Star Wars Encyclopedia and the Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia confused

Precisely. While Steven Sansweet wrote the original SWE and the CSWE, Pablo Hidalgo, Bob Vitas, Daniel Wallace, Mary Franklin, Josh Kushins, Chris Cassidy wrote for the CSWE.

 

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The2ndQuest  40241 posts
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Date Posted: 11/9 11:11pm Subject: Admiral Yularen will get "promoted" to colonel?? - Date Edited: 11/10 8:21am (3 edits total) Edited By: The2ndQuest
I think I recall Lucas saying somewhere that, essentially, the worst of the worst in terms of Imperial officers and officials were killed on the first Death Star, as one way to justify the notion of the end of the Empire after Palpatine is gone and have a "happy ending" despite the "Robot Chicken" logical arguments.

And, really- this is Clone Wars, how is Filoni going to retcon the end of ANH with TCW? Have Yularen say "I'll always evacuate a battlestation that's come under enemy attack!"? wink



Anyways, to answer the question of the thread's title- the change in rank reflects his change in careers. He went from a naval Admiral to a Colonel in what was essentially a CIA/KGB/Fox News/Gestapo military propaganda-intelligence hybrid agency.

 

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Grytpype  279 posts
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Date Posted: 11/10 2:29am Subject: Admiral Yularen will get "promoted" to colonel??

Guys, everybody but The2ndQuest, missed the point of my post. The issue isn't about retconning or who survived what.

The2ndQuest, do you mean that Yularen was demoted as such , but that the rank of colonel in the Intelligence Service is the equivalent of Admiral?

 

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Gry Sarth  1930 posts
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Date Posted: 11/10 3:36am Subject: Admiral Yularen will get "promoted" to colonel??
Not really equivalent, careers in the Navy and the ISB don't progress the same way. He abandoned his rank as a Navy Commander to join the ISB, wher he aquired a different, independent rank. It wasn't a demotion nor a promotion, just a change to a different branch.

 

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The2ndQuest  40241 posts
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Date Posted: 11/10 8:21am Subject: Admiral Yularen will get "promoted" to colonel??
Yeah- though not the exact scenario, it's like a a naval Admiral changing to the army. He wouldn't have an Admiral rank anymore.

 

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