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halibut Title: FF GSA & FF-UK RSA / Saga Mod Registered: Aug '00	Date Posted: 5/16 2:22am Subject: The London Film Club - A Chat about Films
	What rubbish! The only thing the franchises have in common is the word "star". It's like saying Coraldine is what the prequels should have been -----signature----- They are not "songs", they are "tracks" or "cues" ROTJ - "It has a nice mix of muppets and patricide that you don't see very often" - Darthboba Everybody knows that the bird is the word!
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SithLordDarthRichie Registered: Oct '03	Date Posted: 5/17 5:24am Subject: The London Film Club - A Chat about Films
	They have a lot more in common seeing as both are sci-fi movies and set in space. The movie focused on the characters and their struggles and how they were all brought together. The SW Prequels wanted to do this but ultimately failed and so relied on too much CGI to hide the flaws. Star Trek had a shaky plot and a mediocre villain, but the chemistry of the characters and the great acting performances pulled it through. It is a prime example of how to do a prequel movie (even if it technically isn't one), and IMO if the Prequel Trilogy had been done this way it would've been vastly improved and closer to the OT. -----signature----- Amor Numquam Moritur... Winner of Best Male Poster & Best Double Act - FFUK Awards 2005 Mandalorian Defender in the Acolytes of Revan......for Honour & Glory!! "All of nature is a battlefield"
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chrisfree Registered: Apr '06	Date Posted: 5/18 7:53am Subject: The London Film Club - A Chat about Films
	SithLordDarthRichie posted: It is what the Prequel Trilogy should've been. I'm glad it wasn't done this way. The prequels did suffer from some pretty bad acting and directing but ST seemed to me like bubbles of special effects tied loosely together on a commong string. We went yesterday with 3 boys - ST fans - and all came out disappointed. The only thing they all liked were the chicks. One complained that the movie didn't really fit in the original story line of the series - I wouldn't know, I know nothing of ST apart from it being played in space and has spaceships in it -, the other about that water pipe, whatever it was, and all three of them about the "character development" of Kirk whereby he was constantly beaten up by almost everyone and it seemed to happen way too often. A bit annoying was Older Spock telling Kirk not to tell Younger Spock but then coming out and thinking it was funny. I did like Older Spock. I thought it was watchable, although I don't think it was worth £8.20 but I went along with an open mind and only for the popcorn and coke. I think the prequels gave me a lot more in entertainment and even though undevelopped, they had lot more many original characters in them. In ST I loved the two accentually challenged characters - that is the Russian and the Scott - they were laughing out loud funny and my 'botox guy' comment on Mr Spock went down without me being lynched there and then. I think the Chinese guy appeared in one of the Dr House episodes. -----signature----- Padawan to Jedi_Jimbo SW quote nerf
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halibut Title: FF GSA & FF-UK RSA / Saga Mod Registered: Aug '00	Date Posted: 5/18 8:33am Subject: The London Film Club - A Chat about Films
	chrisfree posted: One complained that the movie didn't really fit in the original story line of the series. This person completely missed the entire point of the film then -----signature----- They are not "songs", they are "tracks" or "cues" ROTJ - "It has a nice mix of muppets and patricide that you don't see very often" - Darthboba Everybody knows that the bird is the word!
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SithLordDarthRichie Registered: Oct '03	Date Posted: 5/18 8:57am Subject: The London Film Club - A Chat about Films
	Exactly, it's an alternate timeline (which Spock actually explains in the movie). And I wouldn't put too much emphasis on the plot, along with the paper-thin villains it is not the strong point of the movie. But that can be overlooked by the quality action set pieces and the brilliance of the characters. It fits in now because the timeline has been altered. Unfortunately in the PT, the characters couldn't cover the dodgy plot and poor continuity because they were as flimsy as it was. -----signature----- Amor Numquam Moritur... Winner of Best Male Poster & Best Double Act - FFUK Awards 2005 Mandalorian Defender in the Acolytes of Revan......for Honour & Glory!! "All of nature is a battlefield"
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chrisfree Registered: Apr '06	Date Posted: 5/18 10:13am Subject: The London Film Club - A Chat about Films
	SithLordDarthRichie posted: But that can be overlooked by the quality action set pieces and the brilliance of the characters. ... Unfortunately in the PT, the characters couldn't cover the dodgy plot and poor continuity because they were as flimsy as it was. I would be hard pressed to find better action pieces in cinema history than the Anakin vs Obi-Wan lightsabre fight. Alright, maybe some Mifune Toshiro but that's about it. But I'm happy you guys liked ST. I think we'd just go along the lines of comparing all the good bits and bad bits in the movies then coming to the conclusion that both have plenty in them. For me, this movie wasn't great and has not pursuaded me to watch more ST. It lacked a certain drama and had no lightsabres in it. Although I'll greatly agree with the weak-villain character in ST. Nothing puts in perspective a hero so much as it's antihero. With the storyline in ST if they developped the villain a bit more we'd all end up sympathising with him and that would be no good at all. At least Palpatine could be loved because he was so evil. If you guys get what I mean. He self-servingly hated the Jedi. This ST villain had a cause for vengance. -----signature----- Padawan to Jedi_Jimbo SW quote nerf
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echosevin Title: Calgary FanForce Council Member - Calgary AB Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 5/19 7:47am Subject: The London Film Club - A Chat about Films - Date Edited: 5/19 7:48am (1 edits total) Edited By: echosevin
	I think it's unfair to compare the two. The new Star Trek can't be called a prequel - because the time travel ultimately changes the entire future of the characters - by creating an alternate timeline, they're no longer tied to the past 40 years of Trek. Whereas the SW prequels told a story that fell in line with what happens in the future, keeping the original trilogy intact. ST was a fun, and entertaining movie. Really well done. However, I'd have to agree that the loose plot, the less than villanous villain and the dubious science were what made it less than stellar (a blackhole is NOT a wormhole). Has anyone been able to spot the R2 in it? Apparently ILM slipped in R2 as an Easter Egg - I think I've spotted him, but with all the quick cutting and lense flare, it's difficult to be sure. I did see the Tribble on Scotty's desk though... Funnily enough, regarding Star Trek, JJ Abrams said the he 'Star Wars' it up to make it more appealing and fun -----signature----- Never tell me the odds! Your focus determines your reality. SIT VIS VOBISCUM POTESTATEM OBSCURI LATERIS NESCIS http://www.calgaryfanforce.com Y.N.B. - 07 @ C4
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SithLordDarthRichie Registered: Oct '03	Date Posted: 5/19 10:43am Subject: The London Film Club - A Chat about Films
	It even has Kirk banging his head in homage to the Stormtrooper in ANH. I don't worry so much about the dodgy science in the film, no-one said it had to be realistic it only had to make you suspend disbelief which it did for the most part. For the next movie they need a Khan-type villain, the two best Trek movies prior to this (Wrath of Khan & First Contact) were partly made by having great villains in them. -----signature----- Amor Numquam Moritur... Winner of Best Male Poster & Best Double Act - FFUK Awards 2005 Mandalorian Defender in the Acolytes of Revan......for Honour & Glory!! "All of nature is a battlefield"
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halibut Title: FF GSA & FF-UK RSA / Saga Mod Registered: Aug '00	Date Posted: 5/19 2:42pm Subject: The London Film Club - A Chat about Films
	SithLordDarthRichie posted: It even has Kirk banging his head in homage to the Stormtrooper in ANH. Aw, what a load of complete balls. If anything, it was a nod to Scotty in Star Trek V. To say that it's a copy of ANH is really really scraping the bottom of a very deep barrel. -----signature----- They are not "songs", they are "tracks" or "cues" ROTJ - "It has a nice mix of muppets and patricide that you don't see very often" - Darthboba Everybody knows that the bird is the word!
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SithLordDarthRichie Registered: Oct '03	Date Posted: 5/19 4:04pm Subject: The London Film Club - A Chat about Films
	What is to say that Scotty's incident in Star Trek V was not a copy of ANH considering it was made a number of years after it and many scenes from the OT are and have been widely copied since? -----signature----- Amor Numquam Moritur... Winner of Best Male Poster & Best Double Act - FFUK Awards 2005 Mandalorian Defender in the Acolytes of Revan......for Honour & Glory!! "All of nature is a battlefield"
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SithLordDarthRichie Registered: Oct '03	Date Posted: 5/26 4:23am Subject: The London Film Club - A Chat about Films
	I liked Night at the Museum: Battle of the Smithsonian. It did seem a little cluttered, with too many characters needing to take up screen time and some not getting a sufficient amount. The villain overload made most rather pointless. Nevertheless it had some very funny moments and great actions pieces. Hank Azaria was good as the evil KaMunRa, doing a Boris Karloff accent. Darth Vader even got a brief cameo. -----signature----- Amor Numquam Moritur... Winner of Best Male Poster & Best Double Act - FFUK Awards 2005 Mandalorian Defender in the Acolytes of Revan......for Honour & Glory!! "All of nature is a battlefield"
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chrisfree Registered: Apr '06	Date Posted: 6/7 9:47am Subject: The London Film Club - A Chat about Films - Date Edited: 6/7 9:47am (1 edits total) Edited By: chrisfree
	The boys thought that Terminator Salvation was really crap. I thought ILM did a wonderful job of the special effects but the whole of it felt like a b-movie. Not much story, not much acting, too many special effects. It wasn't bad but it left me wondering whether it was worth the ticket price. -----signature----- Padawan to Jedi_Jimbo SW quote nerf
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halibut Title: FF GSA & FF-UK RSA / Saga Mod Registered: Aug '00	Date Posted: 6/19 6:20am Subject: The London Film Club - A Chat about Films
	Just watched Night at the Museum 2 Absolutely loved it. Far better than the original. Hank Azaria was great. There were several moments clearly lifted from other films. Jed in the hourglass from Aladdin. Kicking the hourglass around from Temple of Doom, and Custer being a coward is from Hot Shots 2 and another film I can't recall. But it didn't matter. Really really good fun. -----signature----- They are not "songs", they are "tracks" or "cues" ROTJ - "It has a nice mix of muppets and patricide that you don't see very often" - Darthboba Everybody knows that the bird is the word!
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SithLordDarthRichie Registered: Oct '03	Date Posted: 6/19 10:14am Subject: The London Film Club - A Chat about Films
	Saw Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen today. I'm not sure whether I think it's better then the first movie or not, it certainly is bigger and louder and has more robots in it. Shia is mildly better and Megan Fox is still the same. ILM have created awesome Transformers, and the fights are spectacular to say the least. The plot drags a bit and seems to change direction part way through, but it's easy enough to follow. Optimus Prime & Bumblebee are great as usual, although there are some extra rather annoying little twin Autobots who think if they speak "Gangsta" for the whole movie it will be an effective substitute for them not actually doing anything else, which is wrong. Better comedy moments in it, but Michael Bay has never been an actor's director, he likes big explosions and delivers on that in style. The only major let downs for me were the much hyped Devastator & Soundwave who did very little at all. Probably better if seen in IMAX since the visuals are the main focus of it. -----signature----- Amor Numquam Moritur... Winner of Best Male Poster & Best Double Act - FFUK Awards 2005 Mandalorian Defender in the Acolytes of Revan......for Honour & Glory!! "All of nature is a battlefield"
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echosevin Title: Calgary FanForce Council Member - Calgary AB Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 6/22 10:48am Subject: The London Film Club - A Chat about Films
	Saw the IMAX version last night and I'd have to agree with you SLDR. The fight sequences were great (although the first one was far too frentic for one to catch much), but the plot was all over the place. And there were so many explosions, I became numb/bored with some of the sequences because they were so overdone... The TransFormers look great though Although, I was disappointed by the lack of character development. Sometimes, too much is just too much. And others, it's not enough. -----signature----- Never tell me the odds! Your focus determines your reality. SIT VIS VOBISCUM POTESTATEM OBSCURI LATERIS NESCIS http://www.calgaryfanforce.com Y.N.B. - 07 @ C4
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