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Mastadge  26461 posts
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Date Posted: 6/25/03 8:37pm Subject: The JC Lit Reviews Special: FORCE HERETIC III: REUNION (REUNION spoilers) - Date Edited: 4/8/08 4:24pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Havac
Since it appears that at least a couple of you have gotten the book already, and Caine is still MIA, here goes.

The drill:

Rate REUNION on a scale from 1 to 10. Please don't rate the book until after you've finished it. Thank you.

Also, please supplement your rating of REUNION with a few words (or a lot, as you see fit).

Links to previous review threads, in case you missed 'em:

Shatterpoint
Tatooine Ghost
Enemy Lines I: Rebel Dream
Enemy Lines II: Rebel Stand
Traitor
Destiny's Way
Force Heretic I: Remnant
Force Heretic II: Refugee

 

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Darth_Guy  54007 posts
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Date Posted: 6/25/03 8:43pm Subject: RE: The JC Lit Reviews Special: FORCE HERETIC III: REUNION (REUNION spoilers)
Damn it, I need to get to reading Reunion.

-Evan

 

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Excellence  24488 posts
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Date Posted: 6/25/03 9:55pm Subject: RE: The JC Lit Reviews Special: FORCE HERETIC III: REUNION (REUNION spoilers)
Aha, I knew it all along---Mastadage was really Caine all along!

 

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J_K_DART  5885 posts
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Date Posted: 6/26/03 4:48am Subject: RE: The JC Lit Reviews Special: FORCE HERETIC III: REUNION (REUNION spoilers) - Date Edited: 6/26/03 4:49am (1 edits total) Edited By: J_K_DART
My word, is it nearly July ALREADY? Not long till my birthday! *wonders if he can con his parents into buying him FH3 as a b-day present*

I look forward to seeing some reviews! wink

 

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masterskywalker  6085 posts
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Date Posted: 6/26/03 11:44am Subject: RE: The JC Lit Reviews Special: FORCE HERETIC III: REUNION (REUNION spoilers)
Up,

Come on man! We're dying from a lack of spoilers!

 

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Errant_Venture  14087 posts
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Date Posted: 6/26/03 12:25pm Subject: RE: The JC Lit Reviews Special: FORCE HERETIC III: REUNION (REUNION spoilers)
Caine is slacking. I hope he's all right.

 

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JacenSoloJediMaster  68 posts
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Date Posted: 6/26/03 12:42pm Subject: RE: The JC Lit Reviews Special: FORCE HERETIC III: REUNION (REUNION spoilers) - Date Edited: 6/26/03 12:44pm (1 edits total) Edited By: JacenSoloJediMaster
Need.... Spoilers.... Badly!!!!!!

 

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JacenSoloJediMaster  68 posts
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Date Posted: 6/27/03 8:20pm Subject: RE: The JC Lit Reviews Special: FORCE HERETIC III: REUNION (REUNION spoilers)
Dose anyone have this book yet ?:|

 

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Mastadge  26461 posts
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Date Posted: 6/30/03 7:00pm Subject: RE: The JC Lit Reviews Special: FORCE HERETIC III: REUNION (REUNION spoilers) - Date Edited: 6/30/03 7:01pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Mastadge
Well, the book is officially released today (well, tomorrow's today already on the other side of the Atlantic. . .), so the reviews should start coming in shortly.

Where are those people who got it last week?

 

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J_K_DART  5885 posts
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Date Posted: 7/1/03 3:46am Subject: RE: The JC Lit Reviews Special: FORCE HERETIC III: REUNION (REUNION spoilers)
*watches and waits with as much patience as he can possibly muster*

Btw, where's Caine..? Is he alright..?

 

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--LadyVader--  90 posts
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Date Posted: 7/1/03 9:02am Subject: RE: The JC Lit Reviews Special: FORCE HERETIC III: REUNION (REUNION spoilers)
I just got it this morning. I had to have the employee go into the back and get it out of the shipping boxes since it wasn't on the shelves yet.

I'm around page 30 right now and will be going on a big reading binge (with hardly any posting) to finish this up. I've really been liking this trilogy so far.

 

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Bratty Jedi Master  322 posts
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Date Posted: 7/1/03 1:31pm Subject: RE: The JC Lit Reviews Special: FORCE HERETIC III: REUNION (REUNION spoilers)
I'll rate it an 8.


Overall, I thought the main story lines of the trilogy concluded satisfactorily, which is a key thing that I look for in the last book of a set. My biggest complaints with Reunion would have to be Droma as head of the Ryn network (way too predictable) and the conclusion of the Tahiri/Riina conflict. I really don't like the way the latter was resolved, and am hoping for something more on this front from the next book.

Bratty

 

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masterskywalker  6085 posts
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Date Posted: 7/1/03 3:41pm Subject: RE: The JC Lit Reviews Special: FORCE HERETIC III: REUNION (REUNION spoilers)
8.5/10

It was a good way to end the trilogy. I was sort of bummed with the trilogy overall because not much happened. But it's getting everything set up and in place for the big show down, and believe me, it's going to be BIG. It had some great action, some great character interaction, and I'm happy the way they've resolved Tahiri's crisis. She's a much better character now I think.

It loses -.5 for Jacen being a whiny annoying punk who doesn't give a damn about the galaxy, or how many people die, because he's STILL wrapped up by his stupid moral posings. Luke makes Jacen look like a chump in this book, and I'm SO glad he does. Luke comes across as the living Jedi dream (He's diplomatic, conserned for life, forgiving but still strong in his morals, and prepared to fight evil in all its forms), and acts as the TEACHER to ZS, quite an honor!

 

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J_K_DART  5885 posts
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Date Posted: 7/2/03 3:18am Subject: RE: The JC Lit Reviews Special: FORCE HERETIC III: REUNION (REUNION spoilers) - Date Edited: 7/2/03 3:23am (1 edits total) Edited By: J_K_DART
Well, guys, the dazed Dart has it - and here's a review!

FORCE HERETIC 3

Plotline: Not especially unpredictable, although Pellaeon versus Vorrik 2: the rematch was a surprise (although apparently it'd be better entitled Pellaeon versus Vorrik Round 27...) In terms of plotline, FH3 ties everything up quite nicely. We finally meet Zonama Sekot (although we don't see the shipbuilding like in RP, presumably that turns up in TFP). The Imperials and the GFFA spontaneously work together to defend a relay station to the Unknown Regions. Through this relay station, Leia and Han's communication plot becomes nicely semi-tied-in with the quest for ZS. It's nice to see some loose ends tied up (e.g. Pellaeon's plans for that old heap, the Right to Ruin, or as I noticed in FH1, the fact Luke actually knew what was going on with Tahiri, which is confirmed).

Pacing: This book's weak point. Several scenes at the beginning of the book seemed to drag. In addition, no sooner did you get into one scene, than we flipped back to another part of the Galaxy for a seemingly-interminable period of time.

CHARACTERS

Luke
One of the two stars of the ZS plotline (Jacen, obviously, being the other). When FH1 was produced, I said that I felt Williams and Dix could easily produce top-quality Luke if they chose to. Well, they chose to. Some of the Luke scenes in here are the most memorable in the entire NJO. No, he doesn't get any action, but he is without a doubt the leader. Yes, it's obvious the quest for ZS was Jacen's idea, but it is Luke who is in charge - as we see when the Jade Shadow lands on ZS, and Jacen is actually told to stay inside while Luke and Mara meet with (what they think is) the Magister. Two Luke scenes stand out above all the rest; the first, is the scene where Luke talks with Jabitha about Anakin Skywalker. Oh, I could envision that scene! The second was the conversation between Luke and ZS in the form of Anakin Skywalker. Both these scenes were incredibly powerful and well-written, and presented Luke well. He offers advice on the Force to a planet! Only Luke Skywalker LOL! As with FH1, there *will* be complaints about the lack of Luke action we see, although I would point out, when Sekot's testing begins, Luke takes the forefront; Saba refers to Luke as being the first to react when the roof caves in (I actually like the way Saba calls him the Jedi Master, as though Luke is the definition of the title). Luke is the first to realise Sekot is testing them, and is in-character throughout (imo).

MARA
Well, at the start we finally see why Mara was on-board and piloting; she's not a pilot, she's a *navigator*, the two skills seemingly being quite different (as we see at the start). However, Mara seems quite superfluous to a lot of this, and spends the book perpetually losing her temper and being a bad diplomat who needs to be calmed down by her husband. I have to admit, I sadly wished the navigator had stayed behind with her ship.

JACEN
An excellent characterisation. Probably going to be the least-sympathised with on these boards, in light of his response to whether or not he wants Sekot to help with the war-effort (thankfully Sekot put the same question to Luke, and accepts Luke's point-of-view, not Jacen's). Jacen is said, by Sekot, to love Danni. He is well-written (as we'd expect, given the two previous FH books) and is actually a little slow at times. Sekot believes there will be a tie between itself and Jacen, which is interestingly put.

HAN
As in the previous FH books, Han seems a little hen-pecked; but he is well-written this time, and is vital to the plotline, particularly with his stunning piloting skills.

LEIA
Hen-pecks Han a bit, but again is quite well-written (hey, Han and Leia get to play an important role without the kids hanging over their shoulders!)

JAINA
Isn't too important to this novel. Sure, she helps out Tahiri (arguably) and does a little fighting, but that's about it really. It was nice to see a Solo kid take the back stage for a change, although Jaina was consistently well-written throughout.

JAG
Another classic performance from Williams and Dix. So Jag finally admits he loves Jaina, in the face of losing her! Jag's heroism is excellent, and he is... well... surprising wink

PELLAEON
Wonderful to see Gilad back again, especially after the superb writing he got in FH1. Pellaeon is back, and his interaction with Leia and the Captain of the Selonia is as well-written as it can get. I was very glad to see Pellaeon back again!

SEKOT
Now here's an interesting one. What will Sekot choose? Luke thinks a little about the potential Sekot has for falling to the Dark Side, and this concerns me (especially in light of the quote at the front, although this was intentional of course LOL!) I find the writing of Sekot to be consistent and imaginative, with the being an extremely interesting (if a little too sci-fi-for-SW-imo) character.

TAHIRI
Have these guys been reading Darkness Shaped? wink I was actually quite sad with Tahiri. It's sad to contrast the Tahiri of FH3, post-melding, with the Tahiri of EoV1. sad War truly does make monsters of us all, and certainly has done for poor Tahiri. As Luke comments, "The journey's changing us."

(As an aside, when FH1 was published, I said I thought Luke knew what was going on with Tahiri; this is confirmed at the very end, where a concerned Jacen asks Leia about Tahiri, who comments she's changed. Luke just seems relaxed, and asks, "What name did she choose?" CLASSIC line or what!)

On the whole?

9/10

 

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J_K_DART  5885 posts
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Date Posted: 7/2/03 4:21am Subject: RE: The JC Lit Reviews Special: FORCE HERETIC III: REUNION (REUNION spoilers)
Hmm, interesting - so far, ratings are 8, 8.5, and 9... wink

 

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Date Posted: 7/2/03 4:22am Subject: RE: The JC Lit Reviews Special: FORCE HERETIC III: REUNION (REUNION spoilers)
Counting 3 reviews: 25.5/3 = 8.5/10

 

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