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Balance_Point Registered: Jul '01	Date Posted: 11/13/01 12:28pm Subject: NJO in Star Wars Insider #57 (spoilers)
	I luvs my Star Wars Insider. I just got the latest issue, and there's some really great stuff in here. Besides the usual prequel updates and news and interviews and whatnot, there are not one, but two articles on the New Jedi Order. One of them is a very interesting interview with NJO editor Shelly Shapiro, which also includes a sidebar with an overview for next year's books: What's Ahead for the New Jedi Order in 2002? (It goes on to say, in different colored letters, "oh, just the end of the New Republic." Well, that's just about as confirmed as something gets. ) The other NJO article is the really good one: Who's Who in the New Jedi Order (it's by Dan Wallace). It features a brief overview of the entire NJO saga to-date, from VP to SbS (and it does include SbS spoilers), plus a quick look at the Vong and the Jedi. But the best part is the close-up look at 48 of the Jedi Knights who have thus far played a role in the book. Each character has a brief summary devoted to him or her, plus a black-and-white portrait. The characters listed are as follows, in order: Jedi Masters Luke Skywalker Mara Jade Skywalker Cilghal Kyp Durron Ikrit Kenth Hamner Tresina Lobi Kam Solusar Streen Jedi Knights Daye Azur-Jamin Tam Azur-Jamin Eryl Besa Cheklev Daeshara'cor Dorsk 82 Jovan Drark Eelysa Keyan Farlander Swilja Fenn Corran Horn (pictured with beard, looking oddly like Samurai Jack) Seyyerin Itoklo Tenel Ka Kyle Katarn (yes, Kyle Katarn) Ulaha Kore Lowbacca Lusa Markre Medjev Kubis Nu Octa Ramis Alema Rar Numa Rar Miko Reglia Ganner Rhysode Saba Sebatyne Wurth Skidder Anakin Solo Jacen Solo Jaina Solo Tekli Raynar Thul Kirana Ti Tionne Thrynni Vae Zekk Jedi Trainees Jysella Horn Valin Horn Sannah Tahiri Veila Some of the things I found interesting (both articles are unfortunately way too long for me to type out, at least at the moment): According to the Who's Who article, "By the time of the Yuuzhan Vong invasion, Luke Skywalker's New Jedi Order consisted of approximately one hundred Knights and Masters (and twenty-odd Jedi children)." I've lost track of how many have died since then, but the fact that the Jedi children were counted separately is a big help in estimating the number of Jedi still alive as of SbS. According to the info on Kyle, "As if stealing the Death Star plans and defeating the Dark Jedi Jerec weren't enough, Kyle now uses his military expertise to develop strategies to fight the Yuuzhan Vong." So that's where he's been... According to Raynar's info, "he fought with distinction and was wounded aboard the Myrkr worldship in Star by Star." This seems to suggest that he might still be around... In Jaina's info: "Jag Fel, son of legendary TIE fighter ace Baron Soontir Fel, has exhibited a budding romantic interest in Jaina Solo." Hint, hint... Zekk's info states that, "He fought valiantly at Myrkr in Star by Star, but despite disgust for his dark-side past he may yet prove susceptible to Kyp Durron's philosophy of aggression." Maybe it was just me, but I didn't see anything that hinted at this while reading SbS, which seems to suggest that this could be something that might happen in the near future. TF.n's DJ spoilers mentioned something about an apprentice. Perhaps it's not Jaina who is apprenticed to Kyp, as many seem to think, but Zekk? A few quotes from the Shelly Shapiro interview: "Sadly, a few fans even threatened Salvatore, thinking Chewie's demise had been his idea. (It wasn't.) For her part, Shapiro can't remember who first broached the subject, but she does remember, 'All of us at that first meeting loved the idea.'" "'We wanted the authors to bring as much of themselves to the storyline and character development as possible, within the confines of the bigger picture we were outlining,' [Shapiro] says, adding, 'There are parts left to be filled in. We're still not exactly sure how it's all going to end, though the pieces are all in place. And contrary to popular belief, we have not decided who is to live and who is to die.'" "'Mara's disease was not supposed to be a way to get rid of Mara or to dis her--it was supposed to provide an interesting challenge for her and Luke,' Shapiro says. 'We have never, ever played favorites with those two couples, Luke and Mara and Han and Leia...'" "[Star by Star], Shapiro says, is "the Heart of Darkness of the whole series. It's extremely pivotal. The books that [appear] in 2002 will take that and really shape the new direction of The New Jedi Order.'" And all of those are just highlights. Well, I'm off to go read this thing thoroughly from cover to cover now! -----signature----- "Whatever happens... happens." -Spike Spiegel ------- ~No black and white in the blue~
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chissdude10 Registered: Jul '01	Date Posted: 11/13/01 12:31pm Subject: RE: NJO in Star Wars Insider #57 (spoilers)
	Sounds good exept for that pretty boy fighter jok.
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Mastadge Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jun '99	Date Posted: 11/13/01 12:34pm Subject: RE: NJO in Star Wars Insider #57 (spoilers)
	Anybody have this mag and a scanner? Unfortunatly, I've only got a subscription to Gamer. -----signature----- "This will be our reply to violence: To make music more intensely, More beautifully, More devotedly than ever before." - Leonard Bernstein
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The2ndQuest Title: Manager: -Literature -LACWAC -Games Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 11/13/01 12:37pm Subject: RE: NJO in Star Wars Insider #57 (spoilers)
	Keyan Farlander (from X-Wing) is a Jedi?? I never knew that! (Then again, i never beat X-Wing so maybe I should skip ahead in the farlander paper excerpts in that strat guide..;;D ) -----signature----- "When your future self tells you to do something, YOU DO IT." K'Kruhk, 140 ABY:"Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..."
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-Vergere- Registered: Jul '01	Date Posted: 11/13/01 12:40pm Subject: RE: NJO in Star Wars Insider #57 (spoilers)
	Sounds neat. Thanks for the tidbits, Balance_Point. -----signature----- "How many of you does it take to kill someone you call coward?" [Jacen] taunted. (from Balance Point) The Jacen Solo Fan Club [Yes, one exists ] http://boards.theforce.net/message.asp?topic=4379448
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chissdude10 Registered: Jul '01	Date Posted: 11/13/01 12:40pm Subject: RE: NJO in Star Wars Insider #57 (spoilers)
	Yeah could someone send me the good NJO pics from that?
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The Gatherer Title: Manager Emeritus/TF.N Books Staff Registered: Aug '99	Date Posted: 11/13/01 12:47pm Subject: RE: NJO in Star Wars Insider #57 (spoilers)
	Kenth Hamner... didn't realise he was a Master... -----signature----- Co-Author - Timetales http://www.theforce.net/timetales ----------------------------------------------- TFN Books Contributor http://www.theforce.net/books
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ReaperFett Registered: Dec '99	Date Posted: 11/13/01 12:57pm Subject: RE: NJO in Star Wars Insider #57 (spoilers)
	nor me -----signature----- http://www.ymdb.com/user_top20_view.asp?usersid=4053 - My top 20 movies. -
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Balance_Point Registered: Jul '01	Date Posted: 11/13/01 1:05pm Subject: RE: NJO in Star Wars Insider #57 (spoilers)
	"Kenth Hamner is one of only two Jedi Masters who were not introduced in a prior era of Star Wars literature. First appearing in Agents of Chaos II: Jedi Eclipse, Hamner is a retired colonel formerly from the New Republic Defense Force. As an ex-military man, Hamner is an invaluable link between the Jedi and the New Republic's soldiers, many of whom view the Force-wielding 'magicians' as distractions or renegades. Luke Skywalker values Hamners level head and his insight into matters of strategy." That might clear things up a bit... -----signature----- "Whatever happens... happens." -Spike Spiegel ------- ~No black and white in the blue~
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Mastadge Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jun '99	Date Posted: 11/13/01 1:06pm Subject: RE: NJO in Star Wars Insider #57 (spoilers)
	Isn't Daye some relation of Tinian? Her husband or something? -----signature----- "This will be our reply to violence: To make music more intensely, More beautifully, More devotedly than ever before." - Leonard Bernstein
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jadesaber2 Registered: Oct '00	Date Posted: 11/13/01 1:31pm Subject: RE: NJO in Star Wars Insider #57 (spoilers)
	What does Anakin's info, if there is any, say? -----signature----- And in [Neil] Cavuto's defense, if you are planning simultaneous tea bagging all around the country, you're going to need a Dick Armey. - David Shuster
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DVader316 Registered: Feb '00	Date Posted: 11/13/01 1:31pm Subject: RE: NJO in Star Wars Insider #57 (spoilers)
	So if Kenth Hamner was one of two Jedi Masters without prior appearances in EU lit, then who's the other one ? And, although I will admit I know next to nothing about him, I would've sworn that Kyle Katarn was a Master as well. Im pretty sure Ive read that on these very boards, but I may be mistaken. Oh, and when do you all think we may see Kyle make an appearance in the NJO ? In Rebel Dream ? I hope he does pop up somewhere, cuz I am curious to know more about him. -----signature----- Currently Reading: Soul of the Fire by Terry Goodkind
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Wedge 88 Registered: Jul '99	Date Posted: 11/13/01 1:39pm Subject: RE: NJO in Star Wars Insider #57 (spoilers)
	I assume this is Addendum and/or Prologue/Preview to Mr. Wallace's upcoming NEW Essential Guide to Characters. Cool. Thankfully my Insider dosn't arrive as late as my Gamers do. Can't wait. -----signature----- The world looks marvelous from up here, so peaceful, so wonderful, and so fragile. ---Ilan Ramon, Israeli Air Force Colonel, Payload Specialist on the last mission of the Space Shuttle Columbia For looking you're droids the aren't these.
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Balance_Point Registered: Jul '01	Date Posted: 11/13/01 1:39pm Subject: RE: NJO in Star Wars Insider #57 (spoilers)
	Everyone's so interested in what Anakin's profile says. Well, I posted this in the Jacen Solo fan club, but here it is again. Anakin Solo Youngest of the three Solo children, Anakin Solo was--in the eyes of some--Luke Skywalker's heir apparent to become the next head of the New Jedi Order. Anakin's birth came in the comic book series Dark Empire II, and in the years since he emerged as a confident young man with a deep, almost unconscious connection to the Force. In his mid-teens Anakin viewed the Force as a tool, much like his violet-bladed lightsaber. His pragmatic approach--the polar opposite of his brother Jacen's spirituality--made him vulnerable to the aggressiveness preached by Kyp Durron. In Vector Prime, Anakin blamed himself for the death of Chewbacca and allowed the guilt to affect his actions. When he later debated whether to fire the Centerpoint Station superweapon against the enemy, his hesitation triggered a disaster for the New Republic navy. Anakin emerged as a hero in Edge of Victory I: Conquest, gaining a new understanding of the Yuuzhan Vong by partnering with an enemy warrior. In Star by Star, Anakin led the seventeen-member Jedi mission to infiltrate an enemy warship at Myrkr, where he died heroically in combat. Mastadge, while I know virtually nothing about Daye or Tinian, it does say in the article that they are married and have a son, Tam, also a Jedi. And DVader316, Tresina Lobi is the other Jedi Master who made her debut in the NJO. She first appeared in BP. -----signature----- "Whatever happens... happens." -Spike Spiegel ------- ~No black and white in the blue~
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Mastadge Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jun '99	Date Posted: 11/13/01 1:40pm Subject: RE: NJO in Star Wars Insider #57 (spoilers) - Date Edited: 11/13/01 1:41pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Mastadge
	The other one is that Tresina Lobi, what does it say about her? Also, I'm assuming that since Kyle laid down his saber for several years and clearly wasn't comfortable with being a Jedi, he's not considered a master. -----signature----- "This will be our reply to violence: To make music more intensely, More beautifully, More devotedly than ever before." - Leonard Bernstein
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Balance_Point Registered: Jul '01	Date Posted: 11/13/01 1:41pm Subject: RE: NJO in Star Wars Insider #57 (spoilers)
	I assumed that as well, Wedge88, though I don't believe it says so in the article. I can't wait for that book. -----signature----- "Whatever happens... happens." -Spike Spiegel ------- ~No black and white in the blue~
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