Author Topic: Emperor Palpatine's clones? (spoilers)
Darth_Tayanvo  475 posts
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6407_Vader (1107091)
Date Posted: 5/26/02 4:40pm Subject: Emperor Palpatine's clones? (spoilers)
I was reading the chronology of the Star Wars universe and about 7 years after his first death Palpatine comes back to try to ruin the new Republic led by Mon Mothma as a clone. I don't remember the specifics but he dies again and then goes into the body of another clone of himself. I think that he dies once more and then gets in another clone. It turns out that some scientist had poisoned the clones of Palpatine by making them degenerate very quickly. Then, Luke Skywalker finds where Palpatine's clones are stored and destroys them all. Palpatine's spirit then tries to get into the body of Anakin Solo but fails. My question is, with all of these clones and everything, is Palpatine's spirit dead or will it live on for eternity just waiting for another time to strike. devil

 

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Valiento  25674 posts
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Date Posted: 5/26/02 4:41pm Subject: RE: Emperor Palpatine's clones? (spoilers)
His spirit was locked away to never come back inside of the dead metal corpse of empatajayous brand.

 

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Dark_Terror  150 posts
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Date Posted: 5/26/02 4:41pm Subject: RE: Emperor Palpatine's clones? (spoilers) - Date Edited: 5/26/02 4:45pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Dark_Terror
Nope. The Jedi imprisoned his spirit in a wall of light and funneled it into the chaos of the Dark Side. He's just spiritual refuse now.

He ain't coming back.

 

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Nichos_Marr  4604 posts
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6845_Silent Bob
Date Posted: 5/26/02 4:42pm Subject: RE: Emperor Palpatine's clones? (spoilers)
This happens 6 years after he dies, not 7.

 

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Darth_Tayanvo  475 posts
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Date Posted: 5/26/02 5:35pm Subject: RE: Emperor Palpatine's clones? (spoilers)
All of these clones are very repetitive. What books are written concerning this?

 

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Fire_Light  8276 posts
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Date Posted: 5/26/02 5:36pm Subject: RE: Emperor Palpatine's clones? (spoilers)
Dark Empire
Dark Empire II
Empire's End

 

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Darth_Invidious  2996 posts
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Date Posted: 5/26/02 5:41pm Subject: RE: Emperor Palpatine's clones? (spoilers)
Nope. The Jedi imprisoned his spirit in a wall of light and funneled it into the chaos of the Dark Side. He's just spiritual refuse now.

Dark_Terror, I think you're thinking about Exar Kun. That's what the Luke's padawans did to him in the final book of the Jedi Academy Trilogy.

Valiento: Palpatine's spirit wasn't locked in Brand's corpse. Brand's spirit dragged Palp's with him...to the other side or whatever afterlife there is for Jedi and Sith.

 

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Dark_Terror  150 posts
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Date Posted: 5/26/02 5:49pm Subject: RE: Emperor Palpatine's clones? (spoilers)
"Dark_Terror, I think you're thinking about Exar Kun. That's what the Luke's padawans did to him in the final book of the Jedi Academy Trilogy.
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Noe.Check out the Official site. Palpy's spirit is in Dark Side hell. grin

 

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Valiento  25674 posts
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Date Posted: 5/26/02 6:02pm Subject: RE: Emperor Palpatine's clones? (spoilers) - Date Edited: 5/26/02 6:15pm (4 edits total) Edited By: Valiento
I think it's the empire's end cd audio drama where brand says and I paraphrase, Luke I've contained him in me. I am dieing luke, and the emperor will die with me, he will never ever return.<he then dies>

TNEGTC says that brand binded palpatine to his own spirit and crossed over lightside of the force.

old guide to characters says he is a disembodied spirit with eternal madness, adrift in the darkside of the force.

So as you can see there is various "certain points of views" of what happened, and they are all official and all correct according to LFL's policy, no one in the universe really knows what really happened, and brand died so he can't explain what happened after he passed over.

 

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Darth_Invidious  2996 posts
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Date Posted: 5/26/02 6:15pm Subject: RE: Emperor Palpatine's clones? (spoilers)
?:\ Well, I just described what was portrayed in Empire's End #2.

Really, how can the EU stay cohesive when so many sources often contradict themselves in details large and -- in this case -- small?

 

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Nichos_Marr  4604 posts
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Date Posted: 5/26/02 6:17pm Subject: RE: Emperor Palpatine's clones? (spoilers)
Really, how can the EU stay cohesive when so many sources often contradict themselves in details large and -- in this case -- small?

The Force binds it all together grin

 

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Sturm Antilles  11676 posts
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13910_Anakin and Padme
Date Posted: 5/26/02 6:21pm Subject: RE: Emperor Palpatine's clones? (spoilers)
Even how cohesive it is depends upon "our own points of view." I see it as being very cohesive, with small trouble areas.

 

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Valiento  25674 posts
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Date Posted: 5/26/02 6:40pm Subject: RE: Emperor Palpatine's clones? (spoilers) - Date Edited: 5/26/02 6:41pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Valiento
star wars movies contradict each other in ways in ways both large and small yet remains cohesive(forcing the EU to have to make fixes, but for the average movie goer they aren't going to have a fix to read).

Why can't the EU be any different. Personally I don't find it big enough to bemoan over or nitpick about. sturm got it right.

 

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Dark_Terror  150 posts
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Date Posted: 5/26/02 6:47pm Subject: RE: Emperor Palpatine's clones? (spoilers)
So the radio drama says he's trapped n Brand's body? riight....

 

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Sith-Pirate  1461 posts
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Date Posted: 5/26/02 10:23pm Subject: RE: Emperor Palpatine's clones? (spoilers)
star wars movies contradict each other in ways in ways both large and small yet remains cohesive(forcing the EU to have to make fixes, but for the average movie goer they aren't going to have a fix to read).

Why can't the EU be any different. Personally I don't find it big enough to bemoan over or nitpick about. sturm got it right.


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Knight1192  13825 posts
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Date Posted: 5/26/02 11:31pm Subject: RE: Emperor Palpatine's clones? (spoilers)
Palpatine's final death, as seen in Empire's End issue 2, pages 19-21 (counting the scroll or summary page as page 1, actual text from the issue in blue):

As Han and Luke watch stunned, Palpatine shoves his doctor aside and lunges for Leia and baby Anakin.

Palpatine: "Surrender? I think not. Skywalker blood runs dark with the Force. I have choosen the child... to inherit the rule of the galaxy!"

Leia (attempting to stop Palpatinme): "Over my dead body!"

As Leia says this, Han takes aim on Palpatine and fires. Luke tries to stop him but he's a split second too late.

Han: "No... over Palpatine's dead body!"

Luke: "Han--wait!"

Han's shot hits home, much to Luke's horror. Han is a little surprised by Luke's reaction, thinking he'd be pleased Palpatine will soon be around no more to threaten the galaxy. Luke begins moving towards the fallen and dieing Emperor just as he begins to transfer his spirit to the infant.

Han: "Got him! What the matter Luke? Don't you think the time for Jedi Battle-Etiquette is over?"

Palpatine (with his dieing breaths): "Unnh... the Corellian has killed me... I feel it... I am done... it is time... to enter the child... as I promised--"

Palpatine's spirit becomes pure energy as it launches itself at Leia and Anakin, much to Han's surprise and terror. Han realizes all to late why Luke didn't want him to kill him.

Palpatine's spirit:"Who will you kill non, Han Solo? Your own son?"

Unnoticed, the disabled King of Ganath regains mental control of his prosthetic repulsors-- and lunges out for Han and Leia's child!
Brand grabs Anakin just before Palpatine can enter his body.

Luke:"Brand is trying to shield Anakin with the light side of the Force"

But Leia sneses the disembodied spirit of the Emperor is about to enter the tiny body.


Leia (terrorified):"Nooo! Give me Anakin... now!"

Empatojayos Brand does as Leia commands, though it becomes apparent that not only is he being put under a great strain to keep Palpatine within him, but he is also dieing. Luke kneels beside the dieing Jedi after he hands Leia her baby and settles to the floor.

Leia (concerned for her childs safety):"My child! The Emperor... did he--?"

Brand:"I have the Emperor. He is in me. I am holding him. His spirit is my prisoner. He is not at all as he seemed... There is tremendous rage in him...yes... But also boundless despair. I am being eaten alive by darkness!"

Luke (holding the dieing Jedi in an effort to comfort him and ease his pain):"More than anything the Emperor fears obliteration in the dark side. Hold to the light, Brand... Hold to the light! We have won!"

Palpatine speaks through Brand for the first and last time. But Brand gets the last words in.

Palpatine:"You think you have won? If I am annihilated, my curse will be upon Skywalker blood forever!"

Brand (dieing):"Luke... Palaptine will die with me. He will never return. The Force--and all the Jedi who went before us... will make sure of that. Good-bye, my friend--"

With that, Empatjayos Brand, Jedi Knight nearly killed by Vader during the purge, King of Ganath, and one of the first Jedi of Luke's new Jedi order, becomes one with the Force and carries Palpatine's spirit with him to the other side. All who watch his passing are deeply saddened at the loss of this great hero.


I hope that helps a little. Basically, it's already been mentioned. But with the exception of my summurizing, that is what appears in issue 2 of Empire's End.

 

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