PT Was Palpatine responsible for Shmi Skywalker's death?

I had a theory, that Palaptine/Sidious, or one of his cohorts like Dooku, possibly under his orders, sent the sandpeople to kill Shmi skywalker, in order to drive anakin further to the darkside of the Force and eventually become darth Vader. Is is true?

Or, would it make Anakin's fall to the darkside more orchestrated and planned out and that wouldn't be good for the story and his character? Are there any hints in the film about this?

 

No hints in the movie. None in the EU either. Shmi was just unlucky, it would appear.

 

If Shmi skywalker never died in the sandpeople attack, anakin never would have turned to the darkside. True, his main motivation for joining the Sith was saving Padme from dying in childbirth to princess leia, but there were a lot of contributing factors that built up to it, his desire to save Padme was the thing that set it off. He panicked and joined the Emperor. If shmi never died, anakin wouldn't be that irrational, and he still would have the desire to protect padme, but in a more reasonable way, without joining the sith.

Having a random occurence affect Anakin's fate, vs, the bad guys manipulating it, both seem to equally make sense. If Palpatine was responsible, then it would make him even more of an insidious, sneaky, manipulator.

 

Yeah, there's nothing anywhere to suggest that he is responsible for it.

 

Anakin was already impetuous in AoTC. If it hadn't been that, it would have been other events Palpatine made use of.

 

The word on the street is there was dialogue cut from the ROTS script during the Anakin/Dooku fight. The original reason that Anakin kills him is because Palpatine tells Anakin that Dooku had the Tuskens kidnap Shmi.

 

nope, Palps had nothing to do with Shmi's death,

just the nature of the sandpeople..

unless you also believe Palps told Tuskens to randomly attack a farm boys speeder for kicks

 

If Shmi didn't die, Palps would find a way to compensate for the missed opportunity to turn Anakin further. He'll always find a way, 'cause that's just how brilliant he is.

 

I agree, with Shmi still alive Anakin wouldn`t be half as emotionally unstable as he is in ROTS and would not have fallen to the dark-side.

 

It's interesting that the reason the Galactic Empire existed was because of Shmi skywalker dying.

 

No, you don't know that.

Or because Anakin fell in love with Padmé? Or because Qui-Gon found Anakin? Or because the Force made Shmi pregnant?

No. The Empire existed because Palpatine planned it. It could exist without Anakin. Maul or Dooku would fit his place.

 

I think the Empire would have existed with or without Anakin's involvement.

 

When I said earlier on that the Galactic empire wouldn't have existed if Shmi didn't die, because anakin never turns to the darkside if shmi never dies and he never disarms Mace windu and Palpatine doesn't live, and therefore does not create the empire, and the events of the original trilogy don't happen. Come to think of it, Luke and Leia's very existence caused the downfall of the Republic, and the rise of the Empire.

 

Anakin saved Palpatine from mace windu, which if he never did that, palpatine would have died and the empire never would have existed, the republic wouldn't downfall. Mace windu's lightsaber was inches away from Palpatine, before anakin stopped him. The reason he did that was to keep the emperor alive to get the power of the darkside to save padme who was pregnant with luke skywalker and princess leia.

Sure, Palpatine started wars to get elected and get more power and loyal followers who could serve him, but in the end, Anakin had the chance to stop all of that from happening, but he didn't.

 

The only reason Mace Windu was there to kill Palpatine was because Palpatine set it up for Anakin to 'rescue' him. It was Palpatine who told Anakin he was a Stih because he knew he'd go to Windu.

 

Does that contradict my original idea that anakin was responsible for the galactic empire's creation, because shmi's death led him closer to the darkside, and padme's pregnancy with luke and leia led to him saving Palpatine and stopping mace windu from stopping the empire's creation?

 

Anakin was the person who caused the downfall of the Republic and the Empire's creation.

 

Yes. Yes it does. The Empire was Palatine's doing. To him, turning Anakin was just a bonus.

 

Turning anakin was not just a bonus. If anakin never saved Palpatine from windu, the empire would never have existed, the republic never would have downfalled. I am not blaming anakin, because if palpatine never started the clone wars it never would have happened, but, anakin, was, from a cause and effect perspective, the second part of the puzzlepiece to the republic's downfall and empire's creation, with that one decision he made to save the emperor from mace windu. How do they contradict? Also, if shmi never died, anakin still would fear losing his wife, but he would do so in a more rational way, not making rash decisions like attacking Mace Windu. A puzzle is made complete only by all the pieces put together.

The concept of a domino effect is how shmi's death led not only to anakin's turn to the darkside, but the very existence of the Empire.

 

We've just been through this.... scroll up and read my post.

 

Would palpatine have survived if anakin didn't block Mace windu's lightsaber, with force lightning? That's interesting speculation.