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Lit A/V The Force Awakens and the EU [TAGGED spoilers.]

Discussion in 'Literature' started by TypoCelchu, Oct 30, 2012.

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  1. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I offer you tatoos... piercings are a no go.

    Begun the Beard Wars have... and you are the Darth Maul starting a third faction... ;)
     
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  2. Zane the Reaper

    Zane the Reaper Jedi Knight star 1

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    What if he had a tattoo of a beard on his face?
     
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  3. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Jedi Grand Master star 5

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  4. Dawud786

    Dawud786 Chosen One star 5

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    I disagree, clearly if Kyle Katarn shows up he needs to be played by a Cinemax soft porn actor...
     
  5. Lugija

    Lugija Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I disagree with all of you! If they want to have Kyle Katarn in the film, they'll just film the scenes without anyone acting as him. Then, if he so chooses, he will show up in the movie on those scenes.
     
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  6. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Oh, is that what Jason Court's up to these days?
     
  7. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    who knows what Chuck Norris did before he became a star :p
     
  8. instantdeath

    instantdeath Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    That's a long winded way of admitting you're evil :p

    I still have no idea where you're coming from in saying older Luke with a beard "wouldn't look like Luke". Mark Hamill in general no longer looks like he did thirty years ago. The fact of the matter is, should Hamill reprise his role, the very first thing audiences are going to be thinking, upon seeing Luke, is about how different he looks. If he's given a beard, then that's an automatic queue to the audience that he's taken the role of a master, the role of Ben Kenobi, for himself. A beard, in this case, would be the simplest way to denote authority. It would be a noticeable change, and a message to the audience that Luke has grown up, and that he's now in control. He's going to look incredibly different either way, and it would be a better move to have that difference striking, rather than simply having him look older. A lot of older men specifically grow bears to make their face look less withered, more refined. That's good advice for Hamill, as far as I'm concerned.

    That's a lot to take away from an arbitrary piece of facial hair, and of course it doesn't work like that in the real world, but people often naturally assign large meanings to very small things, and in film you have to use every kind of visual queue you can manage. I joke around with the beard, but I do think it would be an important, if very small, thing to add. It's very important that the first audience reaction to seeing Luke again be something along the lines of, "look how far Luke has come, he's just like his master now", instead of "man, Luke has gotten old".

    But god no, Luke can't have a mustache. I won't lose any sleep if he doesn't have a beard, but he can't have a mustache. I'd rather he be missing his entire jaw [face_clown]
     
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  9. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I see your reasoning and it makes sense, but it still looks ugly on him. And is too repetitive. A true master needs not look like one. Yoda looked like a small swamp smurf in the beginning too ;) and true mastery is what you do and not how you look...

    and I think, your argument of him looking withered old without a beard... heck that is what I want to see and expect! no need to hide it but be proud of your age and how you look. else he is ashamed of himself... heck he should be a nudist at his age and not hide behind beards and clothes ;) (ok... look what you make me say here... I do not want to see him naked).

    I mean he can look different or changed. But not unrecognisable and a beard does not fit him there, he looks like someone else and he should be Luke, not.. "Bearded Jedi xyz".

    just for you... sweet dreams
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    but to ease your pain... he still might look like this and hell I'd love that... that is the galactic fashion decades after the OT.. trust me, we just did not see it yet:

    [​IMG]
     
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  10. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    I cannot believe this is a debate that's actually happening.
     
  11. The_Forgotten_Jedi

    The_Forgotten_Jedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Nothing surprises me after the Duros thread. Besides, what else are people going to discuss? The movie isn't out for another two years!

    Personally, I think they should let Luke have a beard. He, Kyle, and Corran can have a Beard Off.
     
  12. instantdeath

    instantdeath Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Jay and Silent Bob Hamill would be most satisfactory. That's what I call a compromise.
     
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  13. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    I like these Lit debates infinitely more than the entirety of the sequel forum.
     
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  14. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    then we got a deal ;)

    meaning I do not have to pull out this picture after all... evil Luke after being posessed by the Emperor's spirit:
    [​IMG]
     
  15. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    That's like saying you prefer rug burn to a wood chipper.
     
  16. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    No, it's like saying you prefer something good to something crap.
     
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  17. instantdeath

    instantdeath Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Facial hair is serious business. Would anyone have given a crap what that crazy old man in the desert had to say if he didn't have a bodacious beard to back it up? I think not.
     
  18. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    do not start it again... I am ready for you! tell me honestly you'd not listen to him! you would ;)

    [​IMG]
     
  19. instantdeath

    instantdeath Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I'd be skeptical how and why he managed to remain clean shaven in the desert. A well groomed hermit is not a hermit you can trust [face_shame_on_you]
     
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  20. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    as a Ladies man he needs to take care of himself.. besides, Lukes friends were shaved aside a mustache or two.. even Owen did not have a proper beard. It is possible. Half of Mos Eisley was shaved... and Jabbas Palace too got a low beardcount.

    Lets break out Decipher CCG cards and do a Tatooinian beard census if you like!
     
  21. instantdeath

    instantdeath Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Are you saying everyone on Tatooine is a loner hermit, and should adhere to loner hermit doctrine? I find that offensive :p

    Also, we all know Jabba would look better with a beard.
     
  22. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I agree on bearded Hutts, yet even among hermits Kenobi is the only one with a beard.. right?

    heck even Tusken shave.. look at Sharad and A'sharad Hett!
     
  23. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Just do what I do. Have a scotch while reading the boards and it becomes incredibly more enjoyable. [face_shhh]

    Speaking of which, why the hell haven't I poured myself a scotch yet? :confused:

    --Adm. Nick
     
  24. instantdeath

    instantdeath Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    So you admit you enjoy the Beardspeak even without the influence of scotch. Your journey is complete.
     
  25. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    There's no such a thing as "a" Scotch.
     
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