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JCC [OOTS]You suck, Monty

Discussion in 'Community' started by Quixotic-Sith, Dec 3, 2008.

  1. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    I have no idea if you are using hyperbole or not. Let's see, "treating it as reproduction" does not make it right to turn someone against their will into a vampire as Malack has done many times over as he admits aside from and including Belkar.

    Malack may be even tempered and even charming in a way, but he is far from good.
     
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  2. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    872 Consession Stands

    I am right. Evil. It is an old debate. Alignment is a dominating factor but does not preclude other personality traits. Malack is reasonable, but ultimately he is Evil. In this case he is quite insane too. Vampires in D&D can be charming, and even good! But not in this case. Mallack is a villain, Lawful Evil.
     
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  3. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    Was was Evil there?
     
  4. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    He's actually required to be evil by the SRD so. :p

    Like, he's definitely not anything other than Lawful, but the rules make any act of vampirism more or less automatically evil - because, well, DnD alignment is completely arbitrary and is determined by actions.
     
  5. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    Rich has explicitly said he ignores the "always" alignment factors. In fact, trying to bridge differences in order to find a peaceful compromise without further bloodshed seems almost explicitly Neutral... no?
     
  6. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Oh, I didn't know Rich had said that. Then, yeah, I could see LN.
     
  7. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    There are shades of gray throughout, but Malack is most definitely evil despite his even tempered/level headed nature. LN? Not impossible but Mallack is not LN. LE, all the way.
     
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  8. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    Yeah, I think it was back around the OTOoPCs book where the Paladins were speculated on losing their Paladinhood for massacring the Goblin commoners/villagers -- even the women or children -- he basically outright said that in the name of story he tends to ignore those alignment restrictions (except in certain cases like certain non-sentient / supernatural alignment restrictions).

    EDIT: And Montie, he certainly could be LE, but it's not guaranteed. That was my only point. I lean towards LN but he could even be TN in some respects...
     
  9. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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  10. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    Durkon generally doe snothing for me, but at times like this I do cheer. I like creepy vapor cloud Malack in #874.

    Malack is the very definition of Affably Evil

    try not to get addicted to tvtropes today. Click, read, escape.
     
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  11. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    876 Ensnared

    I was not expecting that. So either Malack gets them both or V steps in.
     
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  12. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Won't lie, that was precisely my first thought when I read that strip. :p
     
  13. Ramza

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  14. Rosslcopter

    Rosslcopter Jedi Master star 4

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    Well this makes sense. Durkon will return posthumously to his homelands and bring doom and destruction to them as an undead. Thus fulfilling two prophecies.
     
  15. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    Epic. X X
     
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  16. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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  17. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    Next issue: 879: Littler Brother?
     
  18. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Eh, Belkar would still be basically the same character.
     
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  19. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    Wait. Wait. WAIT.

    Durkon... he is Lawful Good, like Roy, right? And... time has no meaning in LG afterlife... right?

    http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0664.html

    Roy was planning for someone else to die? The archon is in on it? Is this ... Chekhov's Archon?
     
  20. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    The Giant is just in overdrive right now ain't he?

    Won't this mean Durkon cannot call upon Thor for spells? Will he now have to turn to Malak's religion?
     
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  21. Mar17swgirl

    Mar17swgirl Chosen One star 7

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    This is so messed up and exciting at the same time.
     
  22. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    Way back wehn #331

    No that is not an update. It is Durkon's prediction; "posthumously".
     
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  23. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    Today would be the 9th day... :(
     
  24. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    That was a fun 9 days. Panel 9 = author "Neener neener haha not what you thought was gonna happen".
     
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  25. Ramza

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    879: Running on Empty

    Sort of an inevitable denouement after the last couple of roller coasters, but still somewhat amusing.

    Plus, hey, it reminded me of a certain obvious Jackson Browne song.