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Colt1326
Title: Former Oregon FanForce CR
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5/24 12:45am
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Starwars.com wrote:
"A new era of Star Wars entertainment begins in 2008 when Star Wars: The Clone Wars, from creator George Lucas, premieres as an all-new feature film in August, followed by the television series debut in the fall, in a partnership announced today between Lucasfilm Ltd., Warner Bros. Pictures and Turner Broadcasting System Inc.
Produced by Lucasfilm Animation, Star Wars: The Clone Wars takes audiences on incredible new Star Wars adventures, combining the legendary storytelling of Lucasfilm with an eye-popping, signature animation style. Star Wars: The Clone Wars will open in North American theaters Friday, August 15. International release dates will be announced soon."
So now I ask you the midnight premier might not draw as much attention as the real movies did however i will still be going to the premier. Who else will be going and which theater should we go to? I usually go to stark regional but that is out of the way for most. So know any others middle of Portland or so? We can all meet up in costumes or whatever. In the CR fourms there has been discussed about Costume Contest, lightsaber duels the effect at night would be pretty awesome, trivia, and anything else we could come up with. Also if we can make business cards with our site on it, it might bring more attention to the lines and our site. Which means more members! We can not waste any time on this and it must be done.
Just because this might not be as big as the movies does not mean we can't make it as big for the movies. Here is a list I thinks we should have:
OFF shirts to wear if not on costume
OFF business cards to hand out to invite new members
anything else we can think of between now and then.
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AramysStrael
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Those of us in our respective costuming groups will, no doubt, be doing some sort of costuming event for the premier.
- Bill
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Colt1326
Title: Former Oregon FanForce CR
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Yet leave none costumers out of it? hmm very well you can do your thing I think the rest of us that don't do costumes can do something else.
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Larena_Jade
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business cards? lol. Why business cards?
I'm usually very attached to Santiam 11, it's where the OFF actually gathered during the movies. Though everyone was mostly spread around theaters, we still had a small gathering and sign that represented the OFF. But I don't think people will be gathering for these.
As much as I would for the heck of it... I would feel kind of silly. I don't know if i would have given clone wars much thought, personally. But it just feels weird to stand in line(in costume) for a "cartoon" Star Wars(yes, I know it's not actually "cartoon")
But hey, you could try to convince me otherwise! I'm open to being won over.
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Colt1326
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6/5 8:19pm
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Being won over? That does not sound hard to do lol
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Larena_Jade
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Excuse me, I take that as insulting!
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Colt1326
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As someone once said. "Come to the darkside we have cookies"
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Come to the Premier we can have cookies.
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Bowen
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Larena_Jade posted: business cards? lol. Why business cards?
I'm usually very attached to Santiam 11, it's where the OFF actually gathered during the movies. Though everyone was mostly spread around theaters, we still had a small gathering and sign that represented the OFF. But I don't think people will be gathering for these.
As much as I would for the heck of it... I would feel kind of silly. I don't know if i would have given clone wars much thought, personally. But it just feels weird to stand in line(in costume) for a "cartoon" Star Wars(yes, I know it's not actually "cartoon")
But hey, you could try to convince me otherwise! I'm open to being won over.
Are you serious? Man I would hope most of our fan base has more devotion than that. I mean come on, this is a FEATURE FILM, a Star Wars movie in theaters, that's a HUGE deal. If that doesn't excite you then I'm not sure what would exactly. Everything else is below that in excitement except the 6 live-action films. If you can't get excited over the opening of a new Star Wars movie that looks totally awesome, I guess "just" a cartoon series or just a new video game or just a new novel or anything else won't excite you, either.
I don't consider anyone a true, die-hard Star Wars fan if they miss the midnight showing of a new Star Wars film. Unless it's because a loved one is dying or their wife is having a baby that night or they are having a baby, etc. Besides that, there are no excuses, 2.1 million people skipped work to see The Phantom Menace in theaters. If someone told me I would be directing a $200,000 music video the next day I'd still go see it at midnight, and if they told me the only time we could shoot the video is from 10 p.m. to 10 a.m. that night / day so I'd have to miss the premiere I'd say no thanks. I figure if I'm that good that they want me for that, I'll have plenty more opportunities, but there's just ONE opening of a new Star Wars movie in theaters and all of the money in the world at the end of your life can't make up for experiences missed.
I'd say it's a pretty freakin' big deal. Also I find it really insulting to say that something is "just" a cartoon. You are implying that animation is a lesser art form than live-action filmmaking and I think that's by far mistaken. You can't tell me that Toy Story is a good movie for being "just a cartoon." Animation is an art form, like any other, and it's no better or worse than others either. I am sure that the animators who have poured long days and nights into making every detail as good as possible don't look at their work as being "just" animation, so I really can't understand that attitude.
I'll be in line for Clone Wars I'm sure at least 6 hours early, and for me that's kind of slacking off. I was there 8-9 hours early for TPM, because of school I couldn't do better than that, AOTC was 24, and ROTS I think was also 24, first in line both times.
I understand that 90% of Star Wars "fans" are not very die-hard and Star Wars is just something they enjoy, but if I call myself a fan of something I take that seriously. I love Smallville and Prison Break, for instance, but to call myself a fan of either series only applies in the loosest terms, I don't even watch them on TV, only on DVD, and I don't post on messageboards about them either. I'm a Yankees fan and I make a habit of watching as many games as I can, probably at least parts of half of the 162 games each year, even if it's only 30 minutes. But when it's post-season time I will not miss a game, that's my team, and I take my fandom seriously. Same goes with Star Wars. I don't have the time to read every novel or keep up on every detail, but when it comes to the big stuff like feature films I'm there to support the movies.
I guess I have high standards for fans. I don't personally understand how anyone could call themselves a fan and see a Star Wars movie in theaters fewer than 5 times, I'd say 10 but I'm being nice. When someone calls themselves a huge fan, waits 2 years to see TPM, then watches it 3 times, I just wonder what's up. It was in theaters from May 1999 through January 2000, I saw it 50 times in that period, granted that's insane but it's not much to see it once a month on average, seriously. Especially because the first week if you really are a fan you should WANT to see it like 5 times for sure. I guess I just can't put my head around that type of fandom. It'd be the same if I went to a Prison Break forum and said how great the show is and I'm such a huge fan, but I can't even name the characters and I've only seen each episode one time. Granted, I probably appreciate the show for the same reasons as the real fans, but I'm insulting their devotion if I call myself a fan too. It's like calling a Honda Civic a car, then calling a Ferrari a car. If you're going to call two things so completely different a car, it makes no sense. That's why they call Ferraris supercars. If I'm a Star Wars fan and saw the prequels in theaters about 130 times, and someone else calls themselves a fan and they just watched them in theaters 5 times total, I'm sorry that's insulting to my fandom to have such a broad definition.
I would hope you could make the effort to at least be there opening day for such a huge event. If you are indeed a big Star Wars fan, you should be stoked that a new movie is coming to theaters when we thought there wouldn't be anymore! And it's not like it's a consolation prize, the Clone Wars cartoons were amazing and they were just mini episodes, but this is a CG animated full feature to be followed by a 100-episode (or more?) TV series. Heck if this movie does well in theaters, and we have to help it do well, it will definitely encourage Lucasfilm to consider releasing another animated film to theaters as well.
Sorry Larena I don't mean to be harsh, but especially when you say "I don't think people will be gathering for these," that really annoys me. This is STAR WARS. I would wait 5 hours in line for a 2-minute preview of Episode VII, so yeah, of course people will be gathering. There will be HUGE premieres for this film everywhere, sold out midnight showings, the works. Star Wars fans are the most die-hard fans in the world, of any franchise, and we pride ourselves on that. Nobody is even close to our devotion. One fan waited ONE YEAR in line for Revenge of the Sith. For The Phantom Menace it was 42 days. For AOTC it was about 5 months almost. Even back when ROTJ came out, fans set a record by waiting in line for one week straight, which was at the time the most ever for a film. Now we have the top 3 positions, at least (all the ones above a month), I heard the wait for ESB was 3 days as a record, so I'm not sure if some crazy LOTR fans beat that, but I know there have been long waits for other films from Countingdown as well. I just don't know that you really appreciate Star Wars like many of us do. Ask the older fans, the ones far older than me, they went through the Dark Times, 1985 through 1991, during which nothing happened in the Star Wars world. There were no books. There were maybe a few video games that trickled out. There were no toys. The Star Wars fan club was non-existent. Literally Star Wars was to many observers dead. Then in 1991 Heir to the Empire skyrocketed to #1 on the New York Times bestseller list and before long Star Wars was reborn. New toy deals struck. The Special Editions announced. More books coming out. Video games galore. That all culminated in the Special Edition releases, and before that the announcement of three new Star Wars films, and after riding that wave we are back here, spoiled from the greatness of this period, after all six movies have come out. You think they wouldn't believe it was a huge deal to have an animated Star Wars movie in theaters in, say, 1988? It would have inspired a huge outpouring of enthusiasm.
Be thankful for what we have now. It wasn't always this way. Now that Star Wars has stood the test of time and has such a devoted fan base, people like me who will spend thousands of dollars every year, without pause, on the franchise and shower it with adoration, the franchise will never die again. It will always be around because there will always be fans who are interested in what's next. What's next now is Star Wars television, and this feature is a great introduction to that but also exciting in its own right because it is a feature film, in theaters, not straight to DVD, which would have still been extremely exciting. I assure you the fans will be out. If you think your attitude is what will make for a strong Oregon Fan Force, that's exactly why there's not much activity here. If you can barely be bothered to think twice about a new Star Wars movie, I'm sorry maybe it's time to pick a new passion, something you really care about. Because this must not be it!
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Colt1326
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With all due respect bowen...
It is 2am....
With that said I will read that novel tomorrow when I can actually see better. lol
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Larena_Jade
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Very well said, I must say.
Here are my lame few sentences in reply,lol:
I am a fan of Star Wars. To be more specific, a fan of the Star Wars that George Lucas made well over 20 years ago. That being said, I accept the PT with all my heart no matter how good it COULD have been and wasn't. I am a fan of George Lucas' Star Wars. People can go on and not be true fans by hating the PT all they want. But to accept the Star Wars universe one has to realize that you in turn accept the creator of it. So I enjoy the PT very much, because I embrace it as the same universe that came out of George Lucas' mind.
I am also a fan of most of the books(not all, but most). Mostly those authors who stayed true to SW and it's characters as best as possible.
Maybe I just don't care enough because it is just something that comes in the name of Star Wars. Who knows. And if George Lucas had anything to do with it, all the better. But I don't feel like I need to care about it simply because it's someone else's extension. So hate me. lol.
I am interested in it, don't get me wrong. The only thing is, I would just feel a bit silly to dress in garb for it.
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Bowen
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I'd feel a bit silly to dress up in general. No offense to costumers but I stopped dressing up when I was 11, seriously, I'm a grown adult now. I love seeing the costumes people come up with and I think it's great and all but Star Wars fans in costume are one reason Star Wars fans are looked at as nerds, lol. That's not to say it's bad because the 501st does great work, for instance, they are awesome. But for me personally, not something I'd be interested in...
As for what you said, the prequels were amazing movies, and no, they couldn't have been any better. That was the story, told perfectly, with perfect visual effects, and that's the end of that. It's Lucas's story, not yours, so no you couldn't have done better and you don't know better. If it was your story, that'd be different. But this is the story. It's not like, gee, well Lucas was rushed so he could have done better but he just didn't have the time. No. This was all carefully thought out and executed down to the last detail. Whatever you saw is what he intended you to see. It's art, and therefore cannot be any better only different, and in my view that would most definitely not be good.
And Star Wars wasn't made 20 years ago or even close. It was 31 years ago; if you didn't notice last year was the 30th anniversary, we had a big celebration, maybe you missed it
People who don't like the prequels aren't Star Wars fans. 'nuff said. Star Wars, the live-action film canon, is six movies, ONE story, you can't take it in pieces or parts any more than you can call yourself a fan of Transformers if you liked 4 really cool scenes but didn't like the rest. That no more makes you a fan than saying you like ESB and ANH, and parts of ROTS, but not the rest. That's not a fan. A fan is someone who embraces the Star Wars story, understands it, and appreciates it. It's not like it's a big deal if someone hates the prequels, no skin off my back or Lucas's back, etc., it's just they aren't Star Wars fans. They may indeed be fans of A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back, but that doesn't make them Star Wars fans.
As for the novels, they aren't canon, you don't have to like that stuff. It's just for fun, and it is other peoples' visions of Star Wars. I personally enjoy some novels, don't care for others much at all, it depends on the author and their grasp of the mythology, not to mention the English language The Clone Wars, however, is canon material. This feature isn't someone else's vision of Star Wars. It's still from George Lucas. To say that it's not because he didn't write the script is wrong; he keeps close creative input of this type of thing. On the features, do you think he made every single lightsaber or every building design or every character look? No, other people drew that stuff, they came up with it, but it was ultimately his vision. As a director that's what you do. I know because that's what I do, too. On my last music video I didn't come up with the lighting design for that, but I chose the guy who did, and I worked with him to give him an idea what I was looking to do. I gave him pretty free reign to come up with something spectacular, though, and he did. I also didn't think of every single element of the story, I had input from my DP that helped influence the finished product, but I made the ultimate decisions. That's what a director does, or above him a producer. In Lucas's case it would be a mistake to think he's not highly involved with the process for creating the Clone Wars movie and at least the broad strokes of the television series.
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JEDIGUNSHIP
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It'll be great, but I've never gone to a midnight pemier before. It would be too late for me; I'd sleep in too long the next morning. Otherwise, I'd be really interested in doing that.
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Oh man; I just saw the preview in the theater. Wow! It looks great.
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lol, that cracks me up. I always am up until 3-4 a.m., sometimes 5 a.m., and I rarely ever get up before noon any day of the week. When I have to, I make an exception, but it's not my preference. Fortunately I can do most of my work in the afternoon, I am not a morning person. So for me I'd always be up at midnight, might as well be seeing a movie. Plus sacrificing a little sleep is worth it for STAR WARS, come on. I had to get up at 6:40 in the morning the day TPM opened, I didn't get back from the theater until about 4 a.m. because we were all talking about the movie and whatnot. I barely slept, but it was worth it, haha.
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I'll probably be running the film at my theater since I'm a projectionist. I work at Century 16 Cedar Hills Crossing in Beaverton. Even if I'm not needed to screen the film, publicly or privately , I'll probably go to my own theater as an audience member since I get free tickets.
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Well hay there FRIEND.
After all, they let you view with a FRIEND, correct?
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