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brook_33
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Date Posted:
8/19 1:20am
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RE: The Clone Wars Premier
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But did anyone else get a creeper sense from Anakin everytime he looked at Ashoka?
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Jiltedtoo
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Date Posted:
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Bowen posted:
I have a stable, logical outlook on anything, thank you very much, I'm a philosophy major and always can distance myself from anything and look at it rationally.
Yes, I am sure you feel you can. When someone is obsessed with something whether a person or an ideology, or maybe a series of movies, I am sure they think they are being rational.
You can try and back track and talk yourself out of this, but the facts of your prior posts cannot be hidden.
"If I'm a Star Wars fan and saw the prequels in theaters about 130 times, and someone else calls themselves a fan and they just watched them in theaters 5 times total, I'm sorry that's insulting to my fandom to have such a broad definition."
"I don't consider anyone a true, die-hard Star Wars fan if they miss the midnight showing of a new Star Wars film. Unless it's because a loved one is dying or their wife is having a baby that night or they are having a baby, etc. Besides that, there are no excuses, 2.1 million people skipped work to see The Phantom Menace in theaters."
"I would wait 5 hours in line for a 2-minute preview of Episode VII, so yeah, of course people will be gathering."
"Now that Star Wars has stood the test of time and has such a devoted fan base, people like me who will spend thousands of dollars every year, without pause, on the franchise and shower it with adoration, the franchise will never die again."
"I guess I have high standards for fans. I don't personally understand how anyone could call themselves a fan and see a Star Wars movie in theaters fewer than 5 times, I'd say 10 but I'm being nice. When someone calls themselves a huge fan, waits 2 years to see TPM, then watches it 3 times, I just wonder what's up. It was in theaters from May 1999 through January 2000, I saw it 50 times in that period, granted that's insane but it's not much to see it once a month on average, seriously."
You insult regular fans who have a healthy outlook on Star Wars. You chastise people who do not share your obsession. You become overly defensive and rationalize yourself delusion of grandeur. You list off all your positive (in your opinion) attributes which have nothing to do with this discussion, building yourself up to be more than you actually are. I am sure you actually believe the rest of the Star Wars fandom feels the same way you do. In actuality for those of us who have a healthy outlook on our fandom you come across as not only arrogant but mentally unstable.
Now I am not saying liking all six Star Wars movies, or the Clone Wars cartoon movie makes you crazy. I'm just quoting the messages you have left in the recent past. There is nothing wrong with having differing opinions of taste. There is something wrong with attacking other fans for not sharing your obsessive compulsive outlook on your fandom.
Bowen posted:
To me, the prequels were the greatest films ever made, tied with the original trilogy, because I don't separate the six movies into separate entities any more than I'm going to judge individual episodes of Prison Break against individual episodes of Lost because it makes no sense to me whatsoever.
But, you know, I'm sure your opinion is more valid than mine, what would I know? I'm just a film critic with years of experience reviewing movies, I've only written two books on the industry, I've only studied film in school and on my free time, I only work in Hollywood as a filmmaker. I guess you're right, I must be deluding myself, some dude on the Internet with no professional experience or knowledge of film knows more than I do. *rolls eyes*
And with that I think we just identified why you really didn't get into USC film.
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Bowen
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I think your baseless personal attacks are inappropriate on this forum. They don't serve the desire to talk about the saga or identify with other fans. They are just destructive and obnoxious.
I think there are many types of Star Wars fans, and most of them are not like me, but I believe a true fan is someone who thoroughly enjoys all six movies. I'm not saying it makes you any less of a person if you hate the prequels or whatever, I mean who cares they're movies, lots of people don't like this movie or that one, but I do have a problem with fans acting as though their opinion is supreme and that it's perfectly acceptable to call yourself a huge Star Wars fan even while admitting you basically haven't liked a Star Wars movie since 1983 or 1980, or whatever the case may be. That is mentally unstable. To hang around a FAN forum when you're not really a fan of the subject strikes me as perplexing and a waste of time. I did not care for the final season of Alias, a show I loved up until that point. But I don't go on Alias forums talking about how awful Season Five was because I just don't care enough. I have better things to do than complain about it.
I really couldn't care less what you think of me, and I'm not going to take your baiting and stoop to your level. I'm sorry you think that Lucas did you an injustice by not making the movies just as you want. I really am. But I can't help you with that. You're going to have to deal with that one on your own.
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Jiltedtoo
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Date Posted:
8/19 7:09am
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There ya go, attacking other people's fandom because they do not love all 6 movies. Or myabe they do not spend thousands a year on Star Wars like you do so they can't be a real fan like you are.
Hell, you have me convinced. I think you are the only real fan in here. Congratulations, you beat OFF when it comes to Star Wars.
You make it personal. You take personal offense to any opinion you disagree with.
Someone comes out and says they do not think the prequals live up to the originals and you attack them.
Someone says the animated movie doesn't live up to be a Star Wars movie and you attack them.
Someone doesn't live up to your idea of fandom and you attack them.
You called me out, and I answered.
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jawafett
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Date Posted:
8/19 1:51pm
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Enough! Bickering is pointless, baiting and flame wars by quoting each other's previous posts is getting rediculouse. Just keep the conversation down to a low roar, and get along before I need to bring "warnings" to those involved.
Go ahead and post about the Clone Wars movie, what you liked/disliked about it, but personal attacks for one's view or the other will not be tolerated. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
We're all "fans" here of Star Wars in what ever form it is:Movies, Toy Collecting, Comic Books, Costuming, Fan Filming, etc.
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Bowen
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Date Posted:
8/19 3:49pm
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Jiltedtoo posted:
There ya go, attacking other people's fandom because they do not love all 6 movies. Or myabe they do not spend thousands a year on Star Wars like you do so they can't be a real fan like you are.
Hell, you have me convinced. I think you are the only real fan in here. Congratulations, you beat OFF when it comes to Star Wars.
You make it personal. You take personal offense to any opinion you disagree with.
Someone comes out and says they do not think the prequals live up to the originals and you attack them.
Someone says the animated movie doesn't live up to be a Star Wars movie and you attack them.
Someone doesn't live up to your idea of fandom and you attack them.
You called me out, and I answered.
No, I didn't call you out. You took whatever I said personally when it wasn't meant to be taken that way.
And being a Star Wars fan has nothing to do with how much you spend. You could have nothing but used DVDs of the Star Wars movies and be the world's biggest fan. It's about passion not about cash. If you don't love all 6 movies, you can't obviously be as big of a fan as someone who does because you the lack the passion they have. You're not a fan of the prequels, therefore you're only half the fan of someone who loves all six films. That's just simple numbers. It's not a personal insult so don't make it one.
Anyway, we should be talking about The Clone Wars if anything.
I will probably go back for my third viewing tomorrow, too much to do today, but I hope it can stick around in theaters for 3-4 weeks anyway, because it doesn't look like it has done that well so far. But it wasn't really supposed to make oodles of cash.
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JEDIGUNSHIP
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Date Posted:
8/19 4:15pm
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I saw it a couple days back, and I can't wait to see it again. How can the critics always pan these kinds of movies? I just don't see their logic.
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Bowen
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8/19 7:00pm
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Well, you and me both buddy, haha. But I guess it's not for everyone, I can see how if you're not a fan you wouldn't enjoy it as much. I don't see how you'd hate it, but I see how you'd be like meh, oh well, Star Wars, who cares. haha.
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AramysStrael
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Blah blah blah..... that is all I am hearing.
In one breath you claim that you are the one quantifying the film, so therefore it is good in your eyes. That's great, Bowen. I am glad that you feel that you are an authority figure on everything you deem good in your quantifications. The next breath you have the audacity to challenge any other fan here who thinks differently than you do.
If you are quantifying the film as a good movie for, then let it be just that. Give the grace and allow others to have their opinion without attacking them - yes, telling any other fan here that hey are enough of a fan because they do not like a Star Wars film is a form of atack.
Chalk it up to your philosophy major all you want. All you are doing is using your field of study as an excuse to berate others in this group. A long time, have I watched you do this. In the end you make yourself look like a jackass. Yeah, I said it. I think I speak for a lot of people here that don't really want to voice that opinion. But it is true. You alienate everyone here with your rhetoric. Rather than say positive things in a spirit of encouraging your peers in this community, you constantly insult them with your tirades. Personally, I wonder why you are even here. Correct me if I am wrong, but you aren;t even in Oregon anymore. So what do you care what we think up here? Why do you bother to post, instead of getting plugged into your own local fanforce.
I grow tired of the insults. I grow tired of you spouting off as if you are the cream of the fanboy crop around here. I'm offended that you think it is ok to insult the parents of this community because your disdain toward children, or toward your fellow fans because you hold yourself up to a certain standard - your standard. Well your standard is not my standard. And most certainly it is not the same standard as anyone else in here. Standards and opinions on the subject, any subject, are SUBJECTIVE to the individual.
I'm sure if there was a poll cast to see how many friends you have in this local community, the number would be extremely low. But I suspect your comeback to this is that you don't care what people think of you. Ok, fair enough. Then why bother coming around?
You aren't the high and mighty fannboy you think yourself to be. Nobody, NOBODY is more or less of a fan of Star Wars than the next. As you so elloquently pointed out in defining your quantifications of how you rate movies, it is SUBJECTIVE. Just as your thoughts of what is good is subjective, so is everybody's else's! My God, man, if we all have the same exact opinion, the same exact mentality then we would have nothing to share or contribute to discussion. Life would be pretty freaking boring.
So, if this ruffles your feathers, then good! I got my point across. Perhaps you should mull it over and think about what I am saying and how you come across to your peers here. Respect is a two way street, Bowen. If you want it you need to pay it in kind. I have yet to see you demonstrate any kind of tolerance or respect to any of your peers in the OFF. With you, it is your opinion that counts and everyone else is wrong. I am glad that you think so highly of yourself. Bottom line, there is what you think and there is what is..... you think you are the end all, be all and know all that which is Star Wars. What is, you are no more or less than anyone else here!
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Blackthorpe
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8/19 8:41pm
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Not to promote this bickering, but well said, Bill.
I'm hoping to get to the theater tomorrow to catch the movie. I've heard really mixed reviews from people that I know and trust, so we'll see. As always, I'm going in open minded but not expecting much.
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Jiltedtoo
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Lets all take the cue from jawafett and be cool.
I like Star Wars so does everyone else here. So that atleast we all have in common.
I hear there will be a Star Wars cartoon series from this film.
Anyone know what happened to the live action TV series?
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JEDIGUNSHIP
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Hey, it's Star Wars. Even if it is animated, it is still SW, and will always be. Fans will like it, and the critics are always hating good movies. 
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brook_33 posted:
But did anyone else get a creeper sense from Anakin everytime he looked at Ashoka?
Yes =/
In a really, really pedo way. Those always seemed to be the shots that they stayed on the longest, too. Then they had nicknames after knowing each other a good ten minutes. I just thought the pacing was off for the most part. And Anakin's blatant... thing with Padme at the end. Yeeeeah.
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Bowen
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8/20 2:35am
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Hey Ahsoka was pretty cute, you can't blame Anakin! He probably was like, darn, she's another species, well I'll make an exception this time.
haha, just kidding. I'm friends with Ahsoka on MySpace, though 
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jawafett
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The Clone Wars Series starts in the fall airs on Cartoon Network, and TNT. As for the live action TV series, we're looking at late 2009 or 2010 to see it.
The Clone Wars still has some great action sequences, just seeing the clones doing their battle movements is awesome. There's even camera shakes and all just like AOTC. I'm hoping to see some Republic Commando action in the upcoming series, and their Mando trainers.
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