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Blackthorpe
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Feb '03
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8/20 7:58am
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RE: The Clone Wars Premier
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Why does Anakin have a padawan, anyway? That seems odd to me. I mean, if he successfully trains a padawan, wouldn't that make him a master by ROTS? And she was never mentioned before, so what happened to her? Is she going to die in the series? I can't see that happening in a kids' show. According to Wookieepedia, she is 5.9 years younger than Anakin at 14, which may be too young for the looks you guys are talking about. But Anakin is married and in the past has had eyes only for Padme, so I will certainly be watching out for that when I see this one.
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TatooineForceRecon
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8/20 11:12am
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Blackthorpe posted:
Why does Anakin have a padawan, anyway? That seems odd to me. I mean, if he successfully trains a padawan, wouldn't that make him a master by ROTS? And she was never mentioned before, so what happened to her? Is she going to die in the series? I can't see that happening in a kids' show. According to Wookieepedia, she is 5.9 years younger than Anakin at 14, which may be too young for the looks you guys are talking about. But Anakin is married and in the past has had eyes only for Padme, so I will certainly be watching out for that when I see this one.
Haven't you heard? In the Star Wars universe there is no such thing as continuity. 
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JEDIGUNSHIP
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8/20 11:15am
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Well, not necessarily. It also brings up the question of Knights training more than one padawan before becoming a Master. Also, it brings up the question; is Obi-Wan a Master at this point in the storyline?
Still, it may have a few continuity issues, but that is a minor thing.
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Bowen
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8/20 4:15pm
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It was never said that Anakin didn't have a padawan, so it's certainly not inconsistent.
The live action series is most likely not 2009 to 2010, the range we were just given by Lucasfilm was 2010 to 2012, depending on the speed of getting the elements together. I hope it comes together in 2010 but I'm betting it takes another year from that.
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JediMasterEllic_Kier
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8/21 6:42pm
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Blackthorpe posted:
Why does Anakin have a padawan, anyway? That seems odd to me. I mean, if he successfully trains a padawan, wouldn't that make him a master by ROTS? And she was never mentioned before, so what happened to her? Is she going to die in the series? I can't see that happening in a kids' show. According to Wookieepedia, she is 5.9 years younger than Anakin at 14, which may be too young for the looks you guys are talking about. But Anakin is married and in the past has had eyes only for Padme, so I will certainly be watching out for that when I see this one.
We don't know that she will die yet. They could take her away from Anakin at some point. Her fate could be random when she is away from Anakin. I personally would love to see Anakin kill her, not because I don't like her, but I don't think they will do that in this series.
There is definitely no sexual tension between the two. If you listen to Force cast, the girl that does Ahsoka's voice said unequivocally that it does not exist. They have a brother/sister relationship at the most.
They are working on season 2 already, so she knows.
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JEDIGUNSHIP
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8/21 6:44pm
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It takes a while to make each animated episode, so I'm not surprised that they're already working on the second season.
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Bowen
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8/21 9:56pm
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Yeah they're finished with 30+ episodes of the initial 100 already, so we're told.
I like Ahsoka's voice.
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crashdown
Title: Oregon FanForce Former CR
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8/22 7:46am
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TatooineForceRecon posted:
Haven't you heard? In the Star Wars universe there is no such thing as continuity.
The Star Wars universe is very consistent...............If it makes Lucas money......it's Star Wars. 
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crashdown
Title: Oregon FanForce Former CR
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8/22 7:52am
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JEDIGUNSHIP posted:
It takes a while to make each animated episode, so I'm not surprised that they're already working on the second season.
Why should it take a long time? From what I hear (I have not seen it yet) the animation is fairly simple, and the story line may even be simpler. They can probably pump these out fairly fast.
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JEDIGUNSHIP
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8/22 11:14am
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But you still have to animate them, and that takes a little while. So, for 100 episodes, it could take 2-3 years to complete them all. It doesn't have anything to do with the simplicity of the plot; it all has to do with the difficulty of what is being animated. Battle scenes, for example, need multiple layers because of all of the elements (characters, fire, lightsabers, background), it would take a while to make them, and then they have to look good as well, so it takes longer to do more complex scenes.
However, the animation isn't as difficult as other feature film projects; they're not trying to make the characters perfect replications of humans, which would allow them to cut some time on develoing the look of those characters (and they already have basic templates of all the characters from the movie).
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Bowen
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8/23 1:14am
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The animation is quite beautiful, I think, I am sure it takes a lot of time to get it right.
What some people are complaining about seriously shows what idiots they are, or how unrealistic they are about the real world. They apparently thought that the Star Wars feature film was, first of all, not an introduction to the TV series but actually a 7th feature, not just technically but in intent, and that somehow the hair should have all been animated photo-realistically and that every single movement and every single element should look like a Pixar movie, even though Pixar has a team that will spend 3-4 years making one feature and Lucasfilm Animation is trying to make 100 episodes of the animated series in the same period of time. That is when YOU KNOW people's expectations are seriously out of whack. Also they haven't heard of anything called animation style. They apparently think there is no such thing as a style of animation, there's just "great" and "crappy." Actually, the Clone Wars CG animated series is a specific style, a type of animation, and they were very faithful to that type of animation. It's not meant to look like Pixar, or to look like a Disney traditionally animated film, or to look just like Japanese Anime, or any other thing. It's a different style.
I guess simple things that people with an IQ above 100 should understand are simply lost amidst the hype. I don't know.
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JEDIGUNSHIP
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8/23 10:07am
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Exactly; if it looked like any other style, then that would be the grounds for a legal battle, so they had to find a style of animation that would work for the show and movie.
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8/24 10:31pm
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On Friday I chatted with a friend about the movie (Who is also a big SW fan) and he said that The Clone Wars "was" mainly for kids. He actually said that he fell asleep during the film (Blasphemy !!). However, he did recommend that I see it........"as a rental". 
Now, my question to all of you who have seen it already. Do you think that The Clone Wars movie should have been a feature film, shown in theaters, or simply aired on TV as a premier to the forthcoming TV show? Did Lucas reach too far, and cheat us by putting out what is clearly a premier to a TV show, out in theaters? Is it worthy to be a theater movie?
I know, I know......you are probably all thinking.....why is Crash so down on this film when he has not even seen it yet.
Well, the fact is, I was very excited about the movie. I was counting the days, and really getting into the hype. I was even planning to see it the first day, but family stuff got in the way. But when I heard the first reports about it, I was very dissapointed. Without seeing the film, I felt cheated and used. Used by the Lucas money machine. From what I hear, it seems that the Lucas studios are only trying the use their fan base to make more money. I have no problem with Lucas Films putting out a TV show at lesser quality, but to market and hype a TV show as a movie, and charge fans $8 to $10 to see it, is not fair to the fans.
I have been finding it harder and harder to be a Star Wars fan. It seems that we are just being used by Lucas Films. We wait years for a new product to come out, gleam on to every word that Lucas says during interviews......what is planned next, what is the time line, where will it be set? Only to get average to low quality work at the end.
Is this going to be the legacy of Star Wars?
Is Lucas Films going to keep putting out low quality products, just to make more and more money, until the Star Wars name and memory is trivialized?
If this all Lucas Films is giving us this time, what about the next TV show? You know, the show that been Top Secret, "for Lucas eyes only", thats been pushed back farther and farther in the future, that we are all salivating for. The one that will have "real" actors. Will that be just another disappointment to fans?
I will now go meditate, to call upon the Force for guidance.
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Bowen
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8/25 4:20pm
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First off, as a Star Wars fan you should know it's Lucasfilm, one word, not plural, etc. 
Second, see the darned movie, it's a great film. Yes, it absolutely deserved a theatrical release. It is much more worthy than almost any other movie released this summer. I thought it was one of the summer's better, more fun films, with exceptions like Iron Man, The Dark Knight, and probably Indy 4 thrown in there.
It was supposed to be a present to the fans, a theatrical release to get us excited for the TV series, it's a BONUS. But nothing Lucas can do will ever come across as something for the fans, because someone always makes it out to be just about money, like a guy with $3.5 billion needs another $10 million or $50 million so bad that he wants to ruin his legacy. Suuure, that makes tons of sense.
I think it was fantastic to have a Star Wars feature film sent to theaters!
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