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Colt1326
Title: Former Oregon FanForce CR
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6/8 12:44am
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Bowen posted:
Wow you guys are retro, I mean PS2? That thing is older than some people in retirement communities. There's no point to playing PS2 when you got PS3, superior in every respect, and you can play your old PS2 games on it anyway.
Bowen, with all due respect many people can't afford the PS3 yet. They just can't jump out and pay the price of the PS3. Many people have not advanced in the world enough to have extra money to splurge like that. They either have to wait for it to come down in price to save up for it slowly. Not to mention crap happens that they need the money. Don't get me wrong I have played the PS3 is the best I have played it from one of my friends. But financially I have to settle with the PS2. I, like many in this world are not as accomplished or as lucky as you have become. I mean over 80% of American's live paycheck to paycheck. I do and it's rough. I don't mean to be rude but I find it to be very annoying when people with a lot of money (in a way) flash it in front of people who are barely surviving or can't have the luxuries of this world.
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AramysStrael
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6/8 1:16am
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Bowen posted:
Wow you guys are retro, I mean PS2? That thing is older than some people in retirement communities. There's no point to playing PS2 when you got PS3, superior in every respect, and you can play your old PS2 games on it anyway.
There is when one doesn't have one, Bowen. Like Colt has so elloquently pointed out, not everyone have one or can afford one. I am with the lot that will wait until the price comes down. I realize the PS2 is about 10 years old, but my philosophy is that if it isn't broken, don't fix it. I am perfectly content with my PS2. I don't play video games very often, so it still has that great appeal to me.
Will I like the P3, probably. Don't get me wrong, I am wanting one. Since I despise Microsoft and would rather play an older console platform than own an XBOX, I will be content with my PS2. It took me a couple of years after the PS2 was released before I got one. I splurged on myself that year and put it on lay-away at the K-Mart I worked at. I paid it off slowly and chalked it up as a birthday present to myself.
It is clear you are not a fan of the older systems, but good grief, man, why do you have to put everyone else down? It is great that you love your P3. I am happy for you. But it doesn't make anyone any less of a person because of what they like or dislike, right?
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Bowen
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Honestly I didn't even think about the money, so that's my bad I guess. It's only $400, which doesn't seem like much to me, but I see what you're saying. $400 to spend on entertainment, plus games, does add up fast, and PS2 is a fun system that for like $50 used you can get some good games and have fun without wasting all of your money. That's a good call, I mean, if I didn't have much money I sure wouldn't waste it on video games...
It's amazing how many people do live paycheck-to-paycheck, but I'm sorry it's almost always their fault. Not when you are like 17, 18, 20, 24, even 27, it's acceptable. But when you are 35 living paycheck to paycheck you are a complete loser. You have to have made a lot of mistakes to be in that bad of shape. Americans are terrible at managing money, though, I think I was better at money management when I was 8 years old than most Americans. I made money selling golf balls on a golf course from when I was about 7 to about 13, I found the golfballs myself on the course, I washed them, and based on their conditions I sold them for various prices, made deals for certain holidays, like 10 for $5, or a dozen for $9 if they were $1 balls, etc. Then I took that money and instead of spending it on toys or video games, I started a bank account with U.S. Bank and eventually reached my first $1,000. It wasn't much, of course, but it was money I worked hard to make and learned an appreciation for savings and work ethic. Unfortunately I have no sympathy for most Americans, they just make bad decisions repeatedly, I can't feel sorry for that. I can feel sorry for someone who works really hard and hasn't quite gotten the big break yet, but they keep plugging away, but someone who has two kids and lives paycheck to paycheck is what I call an absolute moron. Don't have kids if you can't afford it. Worst mistake ever. Kids are a LUXURY item, that's it. Or people who go out and drink 2-3 times a week and spend their money clubbing, then complain about how hard it is to save money and how their job doesn't pay enough. Cry me a river. I have plenty of money and I eat cup of noodles 2-3 times a week, I eat Subway most days, and I rarely go out, because even I don't think it's worth it -- I like to save money myself. I'm cheap like that.
I have quite a good DVD collection but I also try to be thrifty with that. I buy a lot of my movies from Netflix for $5.99 to $7.99 used, I also look for Amazon's deals, I just got 4 for $20 on a sale last week, and I got 8 Woody Allen movies for $50 before that, so usually when I do buy stuff I'm looking to get deals and not just waste money.
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Colt1326
Title: Former Oregon FanForce CR
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I agree with the fact having kids and can barely afford for yourself. Hence why me and my girlfriend have not even thought about getting married till at least late 20's. And I agree most people in their 30's that live paycheck to paycheck is their fault. But not all. There are things that happen. Set backs, injuries, laid off. Things like that. Sure they might have a back up plan but even that could fail. I live paycheck to paycheck now because I got screwed over too many times, including my own father. That is why I am starting a early collage program June 10th and going to work. Because I don't want to live paycheck to paycheck. But everyone has major set backs, plans that fail. It's part of life, you just have to roll with the punches. If I can't get a PS3 hey I'll live with it. And to say kids are a luxury "item" isn't fair at all. They are not items, nor are they luxury. As long as you can manage your money to take care of yourself and kids then you should be fine. You only need the basic needs. I call my PS2 luxury. Even though it was a display model from K-mart that cost me 10 bucks...
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crashdown
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6/8 8:50am
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What the Heck, doesn't anyone sleep around here?
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Bowen
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6/8 5:52pm
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Sleep? What's sleep? No.
Kids are a luxury item. I wouldn't want kids at all, they don't help any of my goals and just leech off your time and energy, forcing you into a more mediocre career path usually than if you had the extra time to pursue other interests, hobbies, and goals. They are indeed a luxury. The world doesn't need everyone pumping out more kids. It's already overpopulated and will remain so for a long time. Having kids is one of the worst environmental decisions you could possibly make, especially in the United States where each person is such a massive consumer and wastes so many resources. Myself included, of course, I'm proud to use up as many resources as I do, but that's why we need fewer people. I'm not compromising my lifestyle for the planet, nor will most people, so we need fewer people to make sure things continue to run.
I wasn't dissing anyone who can't afford PS3 I just haven't heard anyone talk about PS2 for a long time, I mean PS3 is a few years old now, Xbox 360 is years old, I have both but don't play them that much. I just never figured that would be a major expense, PS3 is only $400 now, which isn't too bad. It was $600. It's not going to come down in price much more than that any time soon.
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AramysStrael
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Kids are a luxury? Oh, how you devalue human life.....
Material objects are luxuries, kids are precious life! If kids aren't something you wish to have, that is certainly your choice, and commendable for the reasons you cite. But to reduce kids to that of a materialistic good is insulting. There are some members here who are parents, and I would think that your analogy that their children are nothing more than a mere materialistic good would be seen as a little bit disturbing.
You've always been very opinionated, Bowen, and I can respect that. You are certainly entitled to your opinions, do please think of what you are saying before you go off offending your peers here.
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TheGlitterstimJedi
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the ps3 isn't even two years old yet and the 360 is only 2 1/2. and the fact that that ps2 still almost outsells the 360 and ps3 every month shows that, even after 10 years nearly, the ps2 is still relevant. now that's not to say that i would get rid of my ps3 or 360 cause i love them both, but the ps2 is still a fantastic gaming machine.
and with all due respect to everyones opinions, comparing kids to such materialistic things such as entertainment devices is kinda messed up.
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medfordforcemaster
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I constantley play my ps2 and xbox. right now I'm currently switching between kingdom hearts 2 and either baldur's gate 2 or splinter cell: chaos theory. I did, however, just saved enough money and pre-ordered my own MGS4 customized ps3, which I'm gonna pick up this week. its gonna be SWEEEEEET. but you cant go wrong with the older systems.
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Bowen
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I don't really care if someone gets offended, they can choose to take offense or not. I don't control other people's attitudes and values, so that's beyond my realm.
Kids are a luxury, that's the point, they are not a necessity. Food is a necessity. Gas may be a necessity if your job is far enough away that you must drive, and that job provides you with income. A roof over your head is more or less a necessity. Kids are a luxury. I don't care if society is kid-centered and thinks they are "precious little jewels" or something, most kids are snot-nosed brats. If someone wants to have kids, that's their mistake to make, but don't try to sell me on how precious the little brats are. Study after study confirms (go look on Google) that parents are a lot less happy than non-parents and kids are just a burden, not some great, treasured miracle. It's not a miracle to pump out kids, every species has been doing it for millions of years, and no doubt it will continue. It's unfortunate so many people have the need to push out progeny as if they are a status symbol or something.
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Wow, this is really starting to take off; I was hoping for a few responses to my post. Interesting that there have been many more than I anticipated.
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You'll find the Oregon Fanforce is full of suprises. 
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crashdown
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So Bowen, you are being a little vague...............what do you REALLY think about kids 
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Bowen
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I actually like kids as long as they're not mine, well, mostly. I taught kids at Tae-Kwon-Do quite a bit and it was sometimes fun.
What really concerns me is how little people think about the future, the economy, the environment, etc. I'm not even a liberal, haha, I'm a conservative and grew up republican, but I'm also smart enough to know that seriously the environment is everyone's concern not just hippies! 
I've been reading a lot in the last few days about Peak Oil, if you look that up on Wikipedia or on Google you'll find quite a lot, and the reason I started reading all of this is because the insane gas prices. Simply put, there are too many people on the planet to support our lifestyle. Everyone consumes so much, whether it's food, driving, consumer products, etc., and it ALL uses gasoline! Whether it's to transport it, to make it, whatever. So the insane part is just how much oil we use and how difficult it would be to wean ourselves off that, because no good alternative energy exists. For cars, yes, we can go electric, and that has shown great progress. But electricity is mostly natural gas, another resource that is in decline and increasing in price. It looks a lot like we can't support more than 1-2 billion people on the planet maximum, if we're going to live the lifestyles people demand.
What's scary is if you do the reading, it's not doomsday people saying we're in big trouble, it's everyone. The world's oil will run out by 2030 to 2040, or be too expensive for anyone to use, anyway.
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