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jawafett
Title: Oregon Fanforce Chapter Rep
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8/31 9:02pm
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The Clone Wars TV Series
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http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/clonewars/
Official! OCT.3rd Friday 9pm. Cartoon Network.
New trailer looks pretty sweet.
This is not your father's Boba Fett SWHS cartoon, or is it the Droids/Ewok cartoon, or even the previous Clone Wars cartoon. It's cinematic television! 
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AramysStrael
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9/3 6:00pm
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No wonder why there is a lack of interest in participating in the Night the Light Walk. At least I still have Crash and Blue.... I still have you guys, right?
- Bill
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crashdown
Title: Oregon FanForce Former CR
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AramysStrael posted:
No wonder why there is a lack of interest in participating in the Night the Light Walk. At least I still have Crash and Blue.... I still have you guys, right?
- Bill
We still own a VCR, so we can tape the Clone Wars. 
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AramysStrael
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You are my heroes!
- Bill
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TatooineForceRecon
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crashdown posted:
We still own a VCR, so we can tape the Clone Wars.
What the HECK is a VCR?
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crashdown
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TatooineForceRecon posted:
What the HECK is a VCR?
It's like a DVD, just fatter.
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Bowen
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TatooineForceRecon posted:
crashdown posted:
We still own a VCR, so we can tape the Clone Wars.
What the HECK is a VCR?
That's what i was thinking. Surely you must mean DVR!
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crashdown
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Bowen posted:
That's what i was thinking. Surely you must mean DVR!
No, I still need my VCR. I have about a hundred movies on tape, and I don't want to have to buy them again on DVD.
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Bowen
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lol, wow you are funny. I moved past that stage about 8 years ago, now I'm at the "Dangit, I don't want to buy these again on Blu-ray, GRR!!" And I promised myself I won't buy comedies again on Blu-ray, but I've already rebought a ton of stuff on Blu-ray if it's action / sci-fi, like Blade Runner, Terminator 2, Gattaca, Face/Off, Mission Impossible movies, Men in Black, Crank, etc. the list goes on and on. Now is the time to pick up some cheap DVDs, though, Amazon had a great sale going where you could get tons of good films for $5.50 and others for $7.50. This trend will continue no doubt as the studios move into releasing everything on Blu-ray, so there will be some great deals for bargain hunters.
I love Blu-ray and in some ways I'm reluctant to buy anything on DVD anymore, except when it's a TV show and it's only out on DVD, but still for the most part it makes little sense to pay a big markup for a comedy movie or a family film or something like that on Blu-ray. Plus, I've been bargain hunting even with Blu-ray, I'm proud of my track record so far, I have never paid more than $20 for a Blu-ray movie and usually have gotten them between $10.95 and $17, took advantage of some buy 2, get 1 free deals, also lots of Amazon sales in general, so on average I think I've paid about $15 per Blu-ray movie, pretty good. When you are watching a lot of stuff on Blu-ray it gets harder to tolerate standard DVD stuff if you know you could be watching it and having it look better, but VHS, wow, I couldn't tolerate that even when there was nothing better because the tapes would wear out and the quality was just awful. I tried selling my VHS movies once for $1 each on eBay, still couldn't sell them, that was like 5 years ago. Ouch.
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crashdown
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The main reason I still use VCR tapes is because I have young kids.
They trash tapes and DVDs. I have found it much cheaper to pick up used VCR kids videos for $1 to $2 each, and let them trash them, than to buy kids DVDs for $5 to $15, and let them trash those.
Once my kids get older I may finally get rid of VCR. And by them there will probably be yet another format to upgrade to. 
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Bowen
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haha, good point, it's much harder to destroy a VHS tape than scratch (and ruin) a DVD, unfortunately. From what I understand, I could be mistaken but I did some reading on this, Blu-ray discs are actually more resilient than standard DVDs because of extra plastic coating. Apparently that doesn't hurt the laser reading the data. Here is something I found on that from CNet I think: "Blu-ray discs are more resistant to damage caused by scratches and fingerprints than DVDs due to a TDK hard coat applied to the surface of the disc, according to proponents of the storage format." So that's cool at least.
There's already a better format than Blu-ray coming out early next year, but it won't be in consumer use most likely and I don't really think studios will be releasing content for it, it's just for filmmakers and video professionals. It's the Red-ray player from RED Digital Cinema, which can play footage in 4K, about 5 times the resolution of Blu-ray discs, but that has little application unless you have a very very large Sony 4K projector.
There really isn't much point to any better than 1080p for the most part, so Blu-ray is pretty much end of the line as far as quality goes. I think the average consumer is so beaten down by more and more formats that they don't understand there is actually a limit to anything. It's like the idea that special effects just keep getting better and better, when in fact they really don't. The effects in TPM are as good as anything they can do now 9 years later. There may be some types of effects, not featured in TPM, that they can do today that they couldn't do then, or they can process the footage and render it faster, and easier, but that's about it. Just like with Blu-ray, maybe one day they'll come up with smaller discs or something that can hold as much data, or we'll all just download movies onto MASSIVE hard drives, etc. But the one reason why you can't really get any better quality than Blu-ray is because first off, the sound is uncompressed anyway, so that's as good as it can get. Second, while 35mm film can be scanned at 4K (1080p is slightly lower resolution than 2K, by comparison), they shoot a lot of television shows on 16mm, which can only be scanned at 2K, which is essentially not much different from 1080p, so when you see a TV show on Blu-ray that's usually about as good of quality as you can possibly get. With the last two Star Wars prequels, they were shot with the CineAlta series of cameras, the F900 and F950 from Sony, and neither of those cameras shoots more than 1080p anyway, so it would be impossible for them to look any better than if they were on Blu-ray now. That's kind of cool, though, in the sense that we've never had the display format be capable of duplication the acquisition format, and now that's starting to happen sometimes or at least close to it.
Then again, if you were able to show a movie in 4K, you'd need a massive screen, at least a 12 foot home theater screen or so, for it to make any difference I think. Because otherwise you're talking about 35mm quality on a 40" screen, haha, makes no sense.
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TatooineForceRecon
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Bowen posted:
now I'm at the "Dangit, I don't want to buy these again on Blu-ray, GRR!!"
That is why I am trying to hold off at the moment. It would cost me a small fortune to upgrade everything to Blu-ray.
Bowen posted:
haha, good point, it's much harder to destroy a VHS tape than scratch (and ruin) a DVD, unfortunately. From what I understand, I could be mistaken but I did some reading on this, Blu-ray discs are actually more resilient than standard DVDs.
True!
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Bowen
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Yeah I have decided I won't upgrade movies that I bought on DVD that are "good" but not great, ones that I wouldn't really watch much anyway. Also no comedies or TV show upgrades. Otherwise like you said, it would cost a small fortune. Or maybe a kind of large one, haha.
I really wouldn't want to think about how much I've spent on DVDs but it has to be in the $7,500 to $10,000 range, I mean I have more than 2,000 total discs, so even with discounts and the fact sometimes you get a 6-disc TV show for $30 or something, still, it has to be kind of insane. You have to really get a lot of use out of your collection and watch a lot of movies and TV shows on DVD because otherwise it's not worth it, I mean obviously DVDs are a terrible "investment." You can buy a movie for $20 and 5 years later it can be selling for $3 used, so you know if you sold yours you'd be lucky to get basically anything out of it. But I always feel it's not about what it's worth but what entertainment value you got out of it, so if you see a movie 5 times on DVD and paid $20 for it, you basically paid $4 per time you saw it, which isn't terrible, it's not great but it's not terrible either. You had the convenience of being able to watch it whenever you felt like, without having to go anywhere or send anything, etc. But if you paid $20 for a movie you watched once, umm, ouch! haha.
That's why my new policy on buying Blu-ray movies is basically that I must want to watch the movie right now, rather than, "Oh, that's a good movie, I'm sure I'll end up watching that a bunch in the next 5 years." Now I figure if I don't want to watch it now, I'll just wait to buy it until it goes down further. That way if I buy something now for $16.95, watch it once, then 6 months from now it's selling for $14.95 I won't feel bad. I'll be like, oh ok, I paid $2 to see it once, that's more than fair. So I'm more careful now.
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Jiltedtoo
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Film is going to go the same direction as music. People will buy less dvds or blu-ray discs and just start downloading films or doing what I can do now and watch HD movies on-demand.
Netflix has signed a deal with Xbox 360 to have its on-demand movie database accessible through xbox live. So if you have neflix you will be able to watch a library of over 10000 movies.
Its to the point now where buying discs is pointless and just takes up room.
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Bowen
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I really wouldn't say that. It's still quite difficult to stream a 50 gig file, which is HD quality, and won't be easy until fiber optics come along, but even then fiber will be mainly in major cities for years, I don't think it will reach most rural areas for a long time, if ever. Like my house in Portland still has no cable, if not for satellite we wouldn't have any ability to connect to the Internet at a somewhat-acceptable speed or get great TV.
The best way to watch movies remains Blu-ray, not TV, not the Internet. The maximum you can get from TV is 1080i, which is the lowest possible HD signal and isn't true HD at all, and that is usually made worse by the fact that so many people share cable that the signal strength goes down significantly.
Blu-ray will remain the superior format for a long time to come. I can't see any service offering 1080p streaming video for at least 5 years, more likely 8.
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Jiltedtoo
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I own both 1080p and 1080i tvs. I can't tell the difference between the two pictures. what I can do is stream 1080i movies. I currently do it now through comcast and online. Its good stuff. It is the beginning of the streaming movie era. It will catch on fast.
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