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Lit The Essential Atlas and Galactic Cartography: Official Discussion

Discussion in 'Literature' started by CeiranHarmony, Oct 14, 2005.

  1. Tzizvvt78

    Tzizvvt78 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    There wouldn't be a place in the compendium for the Dark Worlds, ruled by the mysterious bio-terrorist Atha Prime, would there? [face_mischief]
     
  2. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    hmm... sounds like it might fit into the Ash Worlds region
     
  3. TalonCard

    TalonCard •Author: Slave Pits of Lorrd •TFN EU Staff star 5 VIP

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    Which one was that?

    TC
     
  4. Senator_Cilghal

    Senator_Cilghal Jedi Master star 5

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    New Battlefronts: The Visual Guide said one of the space battles was near Arda...for life of me, cannot remember which one
     
  5. jasonfry

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    It's where Grevious captured Eeth Koth.
     
  6. Malachi108

    Malachi108 Jedi Master star 3

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    New worlds mentioned in the lore of the items from the Clone Wars Adventures:

    Shotem: "A traditional Jedi outfit of the planet Shotem, where pulsing crystals were used to produced powerful lightsabers".

    Miko: no mention of whether it's a planet or a sect, but: "The Jedi of Miko closely guarded their unique lightsaber gems that produced lightning-like bursts of energy long their blades". May or may not be related to Miko.

    Ermi: "The Jedi of the planet Ermi often made their lightsaber with multifaceted gems, which caused stray energy tendrils to spiral off their blades".

    Savek: "The Sith of Savek system always amplified their lightsaber blades, making them extraordinary powerful but unstable".

    Also, all those Jedi and the Sith are referred to as "Ancient" in the title of the item set. Hope that helps!
     
  7. Stormwizard

    Stormwizard Jedi Padawan star 1

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    What is the total number of systems in the Atlas right now?
    Is it over 5000?
     
  8. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Potential cartography issue from this week's TCW episode ("Supply Lines"): Obi-wan claims that Toydaria is 200 parsecs closer to Ryloth than the nearest Republic fleet. So, either the Republic fleet is stretched really, really thin at this point (abandoning, say, Rothana, Kamino, and half the Corellian Run), or we may have to do a bit of creative reevaluation...

    The planet Toydaria looked pretty good, though. Lots of green stuff that we can assume to be algae mats.
     
  9. jSarek

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    Rothana, like Kamino, is along the Rishi Maze, right? If so, they both might be far enough above the galactic plane for the statement to be true.

    It is a wrinkle for the Corellian Run, though; it basically means no ships are closer than Denon. And if taken "as the crow flies" rather than including the vagaries of hyperspace routes, it also rules out ships closer than about Wroona on the Rimma, and Atravis on the far end of the Hydian.

    Might it be retconned into "available" fleet? As in, there are ships closer, but they're all bogged down in their own important battles?
     
  10. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Another possibility is to take "fleet" in more literal terms. There might be lots of smaller patrols in the area, with one or two mid-sized ships, but no larger fleet groups composed of several Star Destroyers or more. This may explain it, to some extent---only a full fleet would have enough supplies for the blockade runners' needs.

    Though that still doesn't explain why they had to resupply on Toydaria, rather than some closer, Republic-allied world. Maybe the Ryloth part of the Corellian Run was blockaded at this point, so they had to sneak the supplies in through Hutt Space hyperlanes?

    EDIT: This season's TCW webcomic does mention that the Republic made a treaty with the Hutts. The details are kind of sketchy---the comic implies that it prevents the Hutts from selling resources to the Separatists. But it might also allow the Republic to use trade routes within Hutt Space...
     
  11. jSarek

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    Wasn't the use of Huttese trade lanes a central plot point of the Clone Wars movie?
     
  12. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    Yep. The Separatists had seized many of the major routes between the Core and Rim.

    The best explanation I can think of is not to think of it as a "radius", but rather distance along Republic-held routes. Toydaria may have been the closest in that sense, considering the neutrality of the local powers (Hutts, Bothans) and the control of many of the direct routes by the Separatists.
    And strictly speaking, Rothana and Kamino would probably not have any supplies or forces to spare for fear of Separatist attack.
     
  13. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    By implication that tries to nudge the Droid Duo to after the Ryloth trilogy, which can't happen for various reasons, as there is no way that Bothawui would be neutral after Grievous tried to take the system. I think it's best to suggest that the Republic's fleets were engaged or unavailable, or there simply wasn't a fleet strong enough to break the blockade around - thus Anakin, Mace and Kenobi come all the way from Coruscant, I vaguely recall.
     
  14. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    The CWCG had them as neutral (which after Season Two probably meant that they were members of the Neutral Worlds), and one of the CW comics (Wind Riders of Taloraan) implied Kothlis was feeding info to the Separatists - in other words, they were their usual selves...
     
  15. Senator_Cilghal

    Senator_Cilghal Jedi Master star 5

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    Malachi, thanks for the CWA info...I must confess I was not expecting new carto info from this little game
     
  16. Senator_Cilghal

    Senator_Cilghal Jedi Master star 5

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    Jason: can you help me clarify which references to "Abbaji" are the one in Kalee system, and which the one out near Endor?

    Obviously, the references in Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous are to the one near Kalee

    The references in Gamer 9 are obviously to the one near Endor...

    But what about the reference in Shadows of the Empire?
     
  17. jasonfry

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    The reference to Abbaji in Gamer would have come from Shadows, so those two are one in the same.

    The world near Kalee is Abbaji Minor.
     
  18. Senator_Cilghal

    Senator_Cilghal Jedi Master star 5

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    thx!

    Another query: Why did you renamed Jellyfish Cove "Mika"
     
  19. jasonfry

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    Mika is the system name, which seemed more likely to be in widespread use than Jellyfish Cove.
     
  20. Armchair_Admiral

    Armchair_Admiral Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    In last week's TCW episode, one of the important plot points was that for some reason, the blockade runners didn't have the range to reach Ryloth (even though smaller ships have traveled greater distances without refueling), and that for some reason, they needed to go to Toydaria first. Since you're the cartography expert Jason, cna you make any sense out of this?
     
  21. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I think you got it wrong, they could reach it but needed more supplies than they had loaded. thus they went to Toydaria to ask for more supplies. all other ships and suppliers in the region were already stretched or under siege and thus could not spare ships and supplies. that is why they went to Toydaria.
     
  22. Armchair_Admiral

    Armchair_Admiral Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Except it's directly stated within the episode that the blockade runners "do not have the range to reach Ryloth".
     
  23. Senator_Cilghal

    Senator_Cilghal Jedi Master star 5

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    OK, well, general question for all you fans of TOTJ


    is there any point in the comics where we can see the 4 moons of Ossus? If so, which issue?
     
  24. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    not sure but we see only some moons and never all together I believe. might be that we see them in some diagramm or shematic but not in space
     
  25. Senator_Cilghal

    Senator_Cilghal Jedi Master star 5

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    Jason: are Darlonn from "Stand and Deliver" in Star Wars Adventure Journal 5 and Darlon from HoloNet News Vol. 531 51 the same planet?