Amph X-Men Movies & TV - Discussion

Ah, but what works in the comics doesn't always work in films. That's why they upped the Samurai like they did.

 

^But that's not a corollary. Yes, what works in the comics doesn't always work in films. That is true. The idea that they had to go for a big CGI samurai robot instead of a smaller, grittier duel with more tension and more skill is piddle.

 

Wonder if Professor X is real; just an hallucination or Charles's PSI-ghost trapped in Logan's head, like in Wolverine: the END

 

Wowzers, I loved that trailer. Haven't dug an X-trailer that much since the first Days of Future Past trailer dropped and that turned out to be one of my favourite in the series. This looks great, moody, and a lot of pathos and it seems they're skipping out on the robo-Samuari this time. Grim and gritty does not work for everyone but it does work for Logan as he's passing the torch to someone who is fated to inherit his power and way of life. I really think this movie could be something special.

Anyway, as for the timelines, Answer A: this is very much post Days of Future Past (although it does look like a modern setting what with the cars and all) with the Old Man Logan type of post apocalyptic future wherein everyone is dead except for Logan and a sidekick (in this case, Professor X). Answer B: it's a modern setting and viewed more as a sequel to "The Wolverine" instead of DoFP / Apocalypse and X-23 as the next gen Wolverine will get some SNIKT into any more hypothetically set modern era X-flicks. Answer C: Deadpool once again has shown us the way: "McAvoy or Stewart? These timelines are so confusing!"

 

That's a darn good theory.

 

Ender Sai he's Inspector Gadget now.

 

The movieverse added a generation to the Yashida family. The old man was Ichiro Yashida and Shingen was his son.

 

So it definitely feels like this is a continuation of The Wolverine timeline

My theory is rather simple: There are two timelines. One is First Class, XMO:Wolverine, X1, X2, X3, The Wolverine and now Logan

The other is First Class, DOFP, Apocalypse, X1 and X2 with things modified to end with Logan's happy ending from DOFP

This makes a bit of sense particularly with Charles suddenly having hair but also perhaps his body is breaking down as well after so many years. Would also explain why he is still alive after so many are gone.

I'm intrigued at least. Not sure if I'll actually enjoy the plot or not, but it's got my interest piqued if nothing else.

 

That's a good theory, but my only gripe I have about Wolverine: Origins to Logan being a timeline is what about the Charles and Erik post-credit scene in The Wolverine which shows Sentinels, Trask, etc. That is leading to the DoFP future.

 

I was not expecting anything as amazing as what was delivered in the trailer, in terms of tone or weight or human drama. Such a beautiful trailer and cover to that song. I am genuinely excited, and would be amazed if Fox delivered the best superhero film two years in a row! (Deapool/Logan)

Also, Laura! Yesss!

Even more compelling if Logan was used as Patient Zero (not to be confused with Agent Zero). Imagine if Sinister used Logan to spread the Legacy Virus that killed all the mutants. Talk about added guilt! (As long as it's not overplayed or feeling too contrived).

 

Ah, totally forgot that! Yes. Ichiro just tends to remind me more of comic-book-Shingen than movie-Shingen did.

 

I got a Mad Max/The Rover vibe from the trailer. I even saw someone made a parody title called: Mad Logan: Furry Mutant.

 

To be fair, we never saw what it was Charles and Erik were so worried about. We only saw videos of Trask tech. So it's completely possible that they referred to something else or they stopped this threat. I definitely don't think it works as being post DOFP happy ending though.

An even easier scenario though is the third timeline. Before DOFP came out, Singer and crew essentially said that future Xavier and the rest were from another timeline and not part of the "main" timeline we knew.

So basically multiple timelines running around.

 

Maybe Logan takes place in the distant past where old man Logan then goes into the future, gets a sex change, has sex with middle aged man Logan from the future, produces a young man Logan, played by Ethan Hawke, who then goes back into the past to tell old man Logan to not go into the future to do any of that because middle aged man Logan has killed old man Logan, but old man Logan gets very confused by the presence of young man Logan, so he kills him but wait, at the coda there's a baby man Logan hidden in a cradle somewhere, and that's the movie?

 

You're going to the ignore list too.

 

Folks, your theories...why bother? I mean, really, Fox has never cared much for continuity in their X-films (just ask Deadpool). There's no mental gymnastics to be made here. If (not Old Man) Logan refers to any previous film or not, who cares? Treat it as an alternate reality/timeline just like Marvel did.

Awesome trailer though. I just hope Marvel doesn't screw the pooch with this one.

 

I thought that was a given.

 

This is the text blurb attached to the Logan trailer on my cable system:

Spoiler

Logan and Professor Charles Xavier deal with the loss of the X-Men when Nathaniel Essex' corporation is out to destroy the world.

 

If it is future-future, moreso future than usual then unfortunately they won't be able to slot X-23 into any present-day X-flicks. Unless she falls through a time travel wormhole at some point. And, considering Cable is going to be a part of the X-verse, that could actually happen.

The real question is what is a viewing order pre-Logan. Yes it is (probably likely) Jackman's last run as the Merry Mutant but if one were to do something like X-Men Origins: Wolverine - X2 - Days of Future Past - The Wolverine. I think I like it better that way if only you're going from Mangold Wolverine movie to Mangold Wolverine movie. Not exactly in timeline order but, hey, close enough. (out of the X-trilogy flicks I think the most Wolverine-centric / important one would be X2)

 

I thought the Johnny Cash tune was a brilliant pick.