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Discussion Should the Anthology films have opening crawls?

Discussion in 'Archive: Disney Era Films' started by dolphin, Aug 18, 2015.

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  1. Guidman

    Guidman Skywalker Saga Mod and Trivia Host star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I think that's one of the reasons why they should have had a crawl. There are a lot of casual fans who are confused with the timeline of everything. All the crawl does is provide background exposition for the story. One of the people I went with said after the movie, "so where was Rey at during this?"
     
  2. GregMcP

    GregMcP Force Ghost star 5

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    You need a crawl for every movie you see? You need it all laid out in a slab of text?
     
  3. Guidman

    Guidman Skywalker Saga Mod and Trivia Host star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    No, not at all but when your eight movies in and jumping around timelines I don't see how having a crawl would hurt the movie. I don't buy the we need to make the saga films special argument. If you can put a crawl in a video game or in the comics even you can surely put one in a spinoff film.
     
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  4. Gigoran Monk

    Gigoran Monk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Part of the beauty of Rogue One is that the audience learns information as the characters do. A crawl would have hurt that gradual unpacking of the plot that's a significant part of Rogue One's drama for the first two acts.
     
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  5. 11-4D

    11-4D Force Ghost star 5

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    The flashback did everything a crawl would, except you didn't have to read a big exposition dump and watch a cool sequence instead.
     
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  6. DARTH_BELO

    DARTH_BELO Force Ghost star 5

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    Agreed,Guidman. In retrospect, after seeing how it began (which was VERY similar to the saga films), I would have loved to see an opening crawl, and pan down to that opening shot. It kinda felt different, just for the sake of being different.

    I still liked it though...
     
  7. fishtailsam

    fishtailsam Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    not sure why this is still a topic. RO had no crawl, other stand-alones wont either.
    The people that were confused about the timeline for RO made up maybe 0.25% of the viewers (totally made up statistic). I mean my Grandmother got it.. and she hasn't seen a movie since Dances with Wolves.

    You know what the REAL secret is. When a movie falls in the SW timeline should be irrellevant. If you cant watch a movie start to finish, and have it make since, without a three paragraph preamble, then the film makers have made a bad movie.
    The only reason E4 had one was to make you remember Buck Rodgers / Flash Gordon. And the only reason 1-3 & 5-9 have one is tradition.

    The Stand-alones are not call-backs to Flash Gordon. They do not need and should not have crawls.
     
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  8. CarboniteSolo

    CarboniteSolo Jedi Knight star 3

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    fishtailsam, that may be true, but audiences like sitting down and watching that Star Wars logo disappear into the stars and hear John Williams main theme blast through the speakers.

    Rogue One felt kind of meh and was kind of jarring to some people. Also, a lot of people didn't like the Rogue One title font.

    I mean, can't you put something there, or maybe compromise and do something different, but still get that Star Wars logo and John Williams
     
  9. DemonKingBalor32

    DemonKingBalor32 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    eh no that would just be blah to me honestly.
     
  10. Gigoran Monk

    Gigoran Monk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I loved the suddenness of the start of Rogue One. Perfect.

    And honestly, I prefer a visually compelling prologue to a text crawl.
     
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  11. Mostly Handless

    Mostly Handless Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I thought that Rogue One worked just fine without a crawl, infact once the movie started I barely even noticed it wasn't there.:p Going forward, I hope LFL keeps the spin-off movies crawl-less; there are more ways of opening a movie than a Flash-Gordon reference.

    Besides we still have 7, (hopefully 9 in a few years) movies with crawlers, and they'll always be around.:)
     
  12. CoolyFett

    CoolyFett Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I don't think it's totally nessasary for a crawl to appear in the Disney films. Every director or producer should have their own style of film introduction.
     
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  13. JEDIMASTERSHONDELLS

    JEDIMASTERSHONDELLS Jedi Master star 1

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    Every Star Wars film should have the opening fanfare and a crawl - Rogue One suffers a little for not having one. Plus, the replacement title card and accompanying music in R1 is naff.
     
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  14. It must be mandatory
     
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  15. EHT

    EHT Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Let's see... was going to type up something for this and remembered I already had. Lo and behold, this still covers my position on this perfectly. :p
     
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  16. Organafan

    Organafan Jedi Padawan star 2

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    The more I've thought about it, Rogue One should have at least had the Star Wars title flying into the screen, even if after the prologue, or at least used a recognizable Star Wars theme when the "Rogue One" title was shown. Otherwise it just looks like they made it that way for no other reason than to avoid it.
     
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  17. Generational Fan

    Generational Fan Jedi Master star 4

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    Yes, Yes and yes again. The anthology films are still Star Wars film and they still form part of the complete story.

    To not have the opening crawl and fanfare borders very closely on the side of sacrilege.
     
  18. 11-4D

    11-4D Force Ghost star 5

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    Having a crawl just for the sake of having a crawl would be pointless fanservice. The new way worked perfectly.

    Why use the same main theme if it's a spinoff? Every movie opening with the exact same thing and music would get old real quick, especially when it doesn't even make sense to have it.
     
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  19. Gigoran Monk

    Gigoran Monk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    We've already crossed that Rubicon with Rogue One. And guess what? Fans didn't denounce it as sacrilege. Whouda thunk it?
     
  20. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I think they did everything right with the opening of Rogue One (as they did everything right with the opening of the The Clone Wars movie).
    Leave the crawl for the Saga movies.
     
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  21. Organafan

    Organafan Jedi Padawan star 2

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    I didn't say "the Main Theme" or "opening with the exact same thing and music."
     
  22. 11-4D

    11-4D Force Ghost star 5

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    u literally did
     
  23. Organafan

    Organafan Jedi Padawan star 2

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    "Used a recognizable Star Wars theme" is not literally "the Main Theme" or "opening with the exact same thing and music." There is a lot of Star Wars music with recognizable notes. "U literally" didn't understand.
    If the only Star Wars movies being made were "saga" films, coming out from now until twenty years from now, opening with that "exact same thing and music," would you consider that to be getting old quickly?
     
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  24. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Since we've known for quite awhile now that the anthology films will not have opening crawls, this thread has served it's purpose. Locking.
     
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