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DARTH-SMELLY-FEET
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3/13 6:48am
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Rossa83
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3/13 6:57am
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LemmingLord posted:
Rossa83 posted:
Something tells me LemmingLord is being ironic? 
I am being somewhat tongue and cheek, but the truth of the matter is that we never get to see much about what kind of person Dooku was. Was he super dedicated to Sideous? Was he the type who would have kept being so dedicated in the long run? And who is to say that just because other dark force practioners can't think of anything but world domination that Maul wouldn't decide to use his evil gifts for less galactic minded pursuits? Maybe he'd consider piracy. He'd make a great dread pirate roberts...
Dooku wasn't particularly loyal to Sideous. I think it's hinted at as much.
"You did good Anakin. He was too dangerous to be kept alive" - to dangerous for whom?
Maul would be much more loyal, but even he would eventually rise up against his master...
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SithStarSlayer
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3/13 7:17am
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I would donate an entire month's salary to the charity of Lucas' choice if we could get a five minute-sparring session between Sidious and Darth Maul. No holds barred, just two Sith pounding on each other.
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Rossa83
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3/13 7:27am
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I agree completely! There should be one training session with the Sith, and one for the Jedi - it would be awesome to watch, and it could clear up some fundamental differencies.
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Darth_Davi
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3/13 8:21am
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Rossa83, I always interpreted Sidious's comments to Anakin about Dooku being too dangerous to be left alive as being designed to assuage Anakin's guilt over executing him after defeating him. Anakin knew it went completely against the Jedi Code, and needed assurance from Palpatine that it was "okay". Palpatine's comment gave Anakin permission to feel like he did the right thing, even if he broke the Code to do it. It had nothing to do with Dooku's loyalty or lack thereof. This is juxtaposed later, when Mace makes the exact same claim about Sidious to Anakin, that he also is too dangerous to be left alive. Palpatine's line on the Invisible Hand was written specifically to show the conflict Anakin was feeling.
SSS, why bother? you know what the outcome of such a fight would be...Sidious would mop the floor with Maul, slap him silly, and then ridicule him for being weak.
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SithStarSlayer
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3/13 9:07am
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I doubt that, in all sincerity... my ooooooooooold, sparring partner.
For one shiny reason. Maul wouldn't have been on the run from waves of droidekas for 30 thirty days this time around. He wouldn't be starving and worn out. Sidious was no fool. he didn't test Maul until he set himself up for guaranteed success. Maul's trial is arguably the toughest test of the will that we have ever been made privy to. And we know that Sidious believed that a Sith's true strength resided in their will, so with that in mind, I think Maul was waaay more skilled/powerful than he is given credit for. The fact that he even attacked Sidious in such a weakened-state, speaks volumes to me.
To see him spar with Sidious on somewhat even ground is an exciting thought.
In the end I believe that Sidious would beat Maul, as he hadn't reached his full potential in my eyes, maybe to Qui-Gon he had, but not to me. I want to them pound on each other, I want to see how they control their anger, hate and aggression and use them to ther advantage. You ask why bother, I ask why not?
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DARTH-SMELLY-FEET
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Big time. Lets see the 2 of em go at it. Sids wins of course and then a nice scene where Sids explains to Maul why he lost.
I think something like that would be cool, but then again if GL were to include everything i want to see each movie would be a lot longer, even if I took out the stuff I dont like.
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SithStarSlayer
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3/13 10:38am
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Does anyone really honestly believe that if the PT movies were each three-hours long, it would have had a significantly-negative impact on ticket sales? I don't. What kills me is that Lucas HAD three movies, at least 6 hours worth of film to tell us a great story, instead we got a ton of filler and have to wait until cartoons come out for us to get the real scoop. The man knows how to make money, thats for sure.
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LemmingLord
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3/13 10:50am
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I don't get it - you mean Darth Maul is going to be in the cartoons? Or that he should have lived so he could be?
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SithStarSlayer
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I wasn't talking about Maul there, but the PT as a whole.
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Rossa83
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Darth_Davi posted:
Rossa83, I always interpreted Sidious's comments to Anakin about Dooku being too dangerous to be left alive as being designed to assuage Anakin's guilt over executing him after defeating him. Anakin knew it went completely against the Jedi Code, and needed assurance from Palpatine that it was "okay". Palpatine's comment gave Anakin permission to feel like he did the right thing, even if he broke the Code to do it. It had nothing to do with Dooku's loyalty or lack thereof. This is juxtaposed later, when Mace makes the exact same claim about Sidious to Anakin, that he also is too dangerous to be left alive. Palpatine's line on the Invisible Hand was written specifically to show the conflict Anakin was feeling.
Certainly, I couldn't agree more. But I also think that it has a dual meaning in that Sideous feared that Dooku could become dangerous to him either way.
1. Dooku was powerful, no question there (though I doubt he would seriously challenge Sideous, openly or not)
2. Dooku had a lot of political influence, and that was a great threat - what if Dooku wasn't willing to end the war. That would be dangerous to Sideous...
Sideous would undoubtedly overpower Maul!!!
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Dark_Jedi_Kenobi
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It looks like everything has gotten back on track but let's make sure we remember that this is a discussion thread, not a fan club.
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LadySythe
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3/13 4:44pm
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SithStarSlayer posted:
We will not stop, so there is always the chance that they'll come around. 
Maybe. It is possible... But we may have to talk till we lose our voices...or in this case, our fingers fall off.
This is a Maul Died thread, not Count Dorko or any other character.
And to keep ON TOPIC, I firmly and will ever stand by what I have said in every one of my posts. Maul was the most awesome character I have ever seen...and then... POOF! He's killed off in the lamest, most absurd and improbable fashion.
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SithStarSlayer
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3/13 5:41pm
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I loathe those 17 seconds that it took for Kenobi to put all of the Force in his fingertips and toes to get out, up, summon, twist, catch, over, land, ignite, wait for Maul to switch the saber to his other hand... inexplicably, then cut him in half... blink.
Stupid.
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LadySythe
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Agreed.
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