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Moleman1138
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Poor Magistrate, no Passel Argente in this chapter.   Actually I still think Dooku is playing both sides. He knew Obi-Wan was there, but didn't want to do anything.
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Kit_Buzro
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Something I find interesting is that Obi-Wan tracks Jango to Geonosis, but then Jango has nothing to do with the meeting Obi-Wan spies on. It's almost like a broken link in the story to me.
Then we don't see Jango again until he gets Anakin in the factory.
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Moleman1138
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Yet he was there during the Dooku Interrogates Padme scene on the DVD as well as Anakin and Padme on Trial. It's possible the camera did not show him and he was there, since it was Dooku who was the focus of the chapter.
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Master_Gallia
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This scene is pretty cool. I will admit that I was confused the first time watching it. At this point it becomes cloudy who is good and who's really evil. We know the Clones were ordered by a Jedi, but later become Stormtroppers. We know the Nute Gungrey wants Padme killed (clearly not good) but they are separating from a corrupt republic. I think that this confused a lot of people who had a set expectation of what the film should contain. This was were I truly let myself go and "just watched" the rest of the film.
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Jango Fett was present for the CIS meeting until.... George added the discussion between Obi-Wan and Dooku. Apparently George had him removed from the scene to make Dooku more of a mystery. Trying to make us believe he may be a good guy. If Jango was at the meeting, then Dooku's statement to Obi-Wan in the cell would have been a complete lie. Thus the whole Qui-Gon speech and everything would have been odd.
Another thing that grieved me in this scene was the table. It was lit up. But nothing was happening. No holograms. No monitors. No drinks. No papers.
I remember a select image of the center of the table which looked like some sort of hologram projector. We figured Sidious would appear from it or something. But nothing did.
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GARTH_MAUL
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Ah, the poor spoiled masses. 
I swear, Hook, I never *consciously* left out the Corporate Alliance.
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Finally, this sets up for the war about to happen.
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Sure Garth. Sure. 
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I agree with most of the above, but I have to say my favorite part of this is seeing all the Separtists leaders sitting together, so many different species and manner of creatures. This scene does really well to hearken back to the original Imperial meeting of ANH that took place in the Death Star. For future generations watching these films, it'll be an interesting progression of scenes to see such a variant of individuals in power, compared to the opening of the OT where we see how much the galaxy has changed in the 23 transition from ROTS to ANH.
Also agreed with the above, the color tones used in this scenes really help to give light to the emotions of the characters. Everything gives a rocky, tumultous, dark feel. It measures nicely against the grim, sandy reality on Tatooine. Both Anakin and Obi Wan are facing off against an unseen enemy in both parts, and neither of them is successful.
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Tyranus the Hutt with a Harry Lime reference. I nod in approval to thee.
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Regarding the chapter in question, I actually like the techno-union representative, and the very odd manner in which he adjusts that strange knob on his chest. I thought that Dooku was given a forceful, commanding presence by Christopher Lee, who lends considerable gravitas to scenes such as this that are (politically) quite dense; he speaks with such ease and authority. Obviously, the introduction of the Droid factory is key as later it factors into a major action scene.
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GARTH_MAUL
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Yeah, I have to say, I REALLY liked the shot of Obi-Wan looking at the droid factory in this scene.
It looks like Obi-Wan is up on the "surface" of the earth, getting a glimpse into hell. 
I thought Lucas should have left the droid factory at that, but that's a story for another time.
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Moleman1138
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Thank you for all your participation in CBC (Chapter by Chapter). AOTC Chapter 32: Tusken Camp DISCUSSION will be made available 7:00 PM EST. Although the discussion timeframe has passed, you may still discuss this chapter at your convienience. However, we will be moving on to the next chapter.
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The Techno Army guy looks AND sounds like 'The Terrible Tedium' from 'The Phantom Tollbooth'.
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Strike that, reverse; I mean the Banking Clan guy looks AND sounds like 'The Terrible Tedium' from the film 'The Phantom Tollbooth'.
Could there be a connection?
(edit: am i digging up dead threads or is here the right place to post this?)
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