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Moleman1138
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Until the release of ROTS on 5/19/05, I would like to discuss AOTC chapter by chapter on the DVD. There are 47 chapters to discuss over the next eight months, excluding Chapter 1: Opening Logos, Chapter 2: Attack of the Clones and Chapter 50: End Credits.
Each discussion will last 5 days. At the end of 5 days, the following chapter will be posted.
Chapter 38: Droid Factory
DISCUSSION: February 20, 2005 - February 24, 2005
DVD TIME INDEX: 95:22 - 102:38
Synopsis:
The Naboo Yacht heads toward Geonosis. Cross the vast rocky expanse, Anakin pilots the ship towards columns of steam, which come from the droid factory. The ship descends into the steam. As tries to put her cape on, she tells Anakin the plan. The Jedi protector gives in frustrated, unable to argue with her anymore. They leave the ship and head for the factory. Artoo wants to help, but Threepio objects saying that they don't need their help and he understands human behavior better than his counterpart. Anakin and Padme enter the factory, but first pass down a narrow dark corridor. Artoo leaves the ship followed by a reluctant Threepio. The Jedi and the senator walk down another corridor. Geonosians in the walls begin to wake up due to the trespassers. Anakin senses their presence. The Geonosians start coming out of the walls and attacking Anakin. The padawan draws out his lightsaber and begins slicing Geonosians left and right. Padme runs to an exit. They end up on a retractable bridge as the door closes behind them. Anakin hangs on to the door, but Padme falls onto a conveyor belt in the middle of the droid factory. Anakin follows her on the conveyor belt as Geonosians attack. Padme is way ahead of him, trying to dodge machinery. Anakin slices more Geonosians and jumps to a conveyor belt below him. The droids then see the factory. Threepio is amazed. Artoo knocks him off balance twice. The second time, Threepio falls and is intercepted by a large sorting droid. The sorting droid drops Threepio on a conveyor belt. Artoo using his rockets flies through the droid factory. Anakin continues to battle machinery as Padme struggles with a Geonosian. The Geonosian throws the senator into the cauldron being transported to another section of the factory. Threepio is then decapitated by a piece of machinery and ends up on the battle droid assembly line. Threepio's head is placed on a battle droid; a battle droid's head is placed on Threepio. Geonosians start attacking Anakin. The padawan strikes back using the Force to throw machinery at his adversaries. Anakin jumps to a higher conveyor belt, but is knocked off balance. He falls down and his hand and lightsaber are trapped by a piece of metal. Padme is being led to her death and a molten substance is being poured into each of the cauldrons. Artoo flies to her rescue, trying to stop the machines. Anakin, trapped by the piece of metal, continues to try and dodge descending machinery. The machinery that pours the molten substance hangs above Padme's cauldron. Padme is terrified. Just in time, Artoo allows Padme to cheat death and the cauldron falls onto a circular platform. Padme rolls out of the cauldron. Anakin still riding the conveyor belt is free from the metal, but his lightsaber will not ignite. Back on the platform, the senator is surrounded by Geonosians as Anakin is surrounded by droidekas and Jango Fett in another part of the factory. Both Anakin and Padme are taken into custody. END OF CHAPTER
Opinion:
The last sequence before the final battle. This scene we don't necessarily need. It's a nice action sequence and introduces the factory a bit more. Very lengthy indeed, a bit too much for this film. A last minute addition, tacking on seven minutes, needed or not.
It's a good scene. I prefer Padme in this type of scene than her taking her palace back in Phantom Menace. She's still giving orders, but they both pay the ultimate price in the long run. It seemed as if like the pod race, we entered into a completely different story, easily the format of video game. The timing with the machinery isn't that believable and makes it seem like a video game.
However, the first half of the chapter is well done as the Geonosians start coming out of the walls. But the second half is just a CG-fest, with only our human actors as the only real thing in this chapter. The retractable bridge is a nice parallel to ANH and Padme looks so much like Leia. But CG Jango looked fake as did the molten substance. I hope ILM fixes a few things for ROTS.
As I said, we don't need this scene. Personally, I liked how they originally came to Geonosis. I just love the music used, since it's the same themes used for the TV spots during promotion. Good chapter. Take it or leave it in terms of story though.
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LETS HAVE A CGI PARTY!!!
Oooohhh do I have issues with some of the use of CGI in this sequence. C3p0 in particular. When he goes throught the flap-jack part, it completely takes me out of the star wars universe and into one GL's employee's computers.... Heaven help the one who animated that one, I hope he still has a job. I also hope the next edition cuts that part out and just has him land on the belt like in the IMAX version.
Padme, helpless as usual. R2 flies for some reason. Maybe he could have just used his handy dandy plug-thingy to extend the bridge....?
Now lets get back to padme. I wonder what gL was thinking... Padme falls twice in this movie. Once here and another time in the gunship. That girl needs to lay off the jawa juice or something...
Anakin shows off some coolness here. Why on naboo he still has his hand after that big slice-omatic comes crashing down on it is a mystery... nice and obvious foreshadowing though...
I'm surprised R2 let Padme drop so hard on the ground. I don't think he likes being in this situation... I also wonder what he does the whole time after Padme and Anakin are caught.
But we'll see him later...
A CGI potpourri, a slice of plot progression, R2 flies for the first time ever, and C3po loses his head...
Next.
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i liked the scean because i saw how the droids where made
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I really, really like this scene. The only part I don't like is the 3PO part. Don't get me wrong, I liked the part with him switching heads with the droid, but I did NOT like he part where he grabbed on to that robot and he was carried around and thrown through the air. That was NOT cool.
I liked how the camera zooms in on Padme before the lava's about to poor on her. Nice! 
Also, look at Hayden's face right before that robotic arm knocks him to the ground. Awesome.
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I really love this chapter, except for two seconds of i.
Everything is great, except when Threepio is hanging by his fingertips on the flying droid thing.
Other than that I don't really have any issues with this chapter.
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2/21/05 12:47pm
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I agree with Moleman. I don't really think this scene was necessary. It could have been done without it.
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Hades2021
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I actually had no idea until a couple months ago that Jango was CG in this scene.
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I enjoyed this scene.
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moleman - always easy to agree with you ...i liked the arrival of the naboo yacht when padme and anakin are traveling through a canyon-looking land formation - music is just super. padme cautioning anakin to let her handle things as a diplomat is the very last time she's in control, and that's very brief. loved the parallel with the ledge from a new hope and luke and leia - i do agree that the rest of the scene goes on way way too long much like the pod race from phantom, as you cited. c3po-the initial slice of the head was startling and funny but after that, just too much of a stuggle to be funny here. heroic artoo never lets us down - in every episode he comes through. i did like anakin on the conveyer belt but again, too long. tighter editing would have made this really exciting, i think. and i agree seeing the birth of the droids was a revelation regarding their numbers. it's an "uh-oh" moment. funniest dialogue in the movie: droids making droids - how perverse.
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apart from a couple of 3po things, i very much enjoyed this scene... very good... teh CGI is great, like the action or not
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Padme, helpless as usual.
Have you seen the same prequels I have? 
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This scene is okay, but nothing compared to the nhext. It's like a frickin video game!
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In regards to the constantly slipping and falling, yes I've seen the same movie.
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Just to clarify, which movie are we talking about? 
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Fiddler on the Roof of course....
DOBBAH DIBBY DIBBY DIBBY DIBBY DUM!!
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Of course! 
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