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Moleman1138
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3/8/05 11:45am
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AOTC Chapter 41: "This Party is Over" DISCUSSION
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Until the release of ROTS on 5/19/05, I would like to discuss AOTC chapter by chapter on the DVD. There are 47 chapters to discuss over the next eight months, excluding Chapter 1: Opening Logos, Chapter 2: Attack of the Clones and Chapter 50: End Credits.
Each discussion will last 5 days. At the end of 5 days, the following chapter will be posted.
Chapter 41: "This Party is Over"
DISCUSSION: March 7, 2005 - March 11, 2005
DVD TIME INDEX: 109:48 - 116:15
Synopsis:
Mace Windu arrives on Geonosis, creeping up behind Dooku, Fett and Lesser, who stand in a luxury box. Windu approaches even closer and ignites his purple lightsaber against Jango's neck. Dooku turns around to greet this adversary. Windu says that the party's over. Suddenly hundreds of Jedi appear all around the Geonosian Arena. Our heroes on the reek are surprised. Dooku tells Windu that his attack is commendable, but foolish in the long run. Super Battle Droids come down the corridor firing at WIndu. Jango then shoots flames at the Jedi, knocking him out of the box and onto the floor. Battle droids rush into the arena fighting Jedi. The battle begins. Two Jedi throw Anakin and Obi-Wan lightsabers and they get loose. Geonosians flee the arena. The Jedi and Padme fall off the reek and continue to fight their enemies. Anakin and Padme climb back on the reek and take out some droids. Battle Droid-Threepio and Threepio-Battle Droid enter the arena. Mace and Obi-Wan begin to fight side by side. In the luxury box, Jango protects Dooku from an invading Jedi. A reek tries to run over Mace Windu as the bounty hunter Fett rockets onto the arena floor. Windu loses his blade. Jango tries to grab it, but it ends up back in Mace's hand. The reek then tramples over Fett, whose jetpack has been destroyed. Jango gets back up and shoots the reek. Fett fires at Mace, who deflects every shot and decapitates the bounty hunter. Count Dooku and Boba Fett are shocked by the recent events. The battle between Jedi and droids rages on. Amidst the battle Kit Fisto Force-pushes Battle Droid-Threepio. Destroyer droids knocks Anakin and Padme's reek to the ground. They take shelter in the turned over cart. Obi-Wan fights an acklay, cuttting off all of its legs. Artoo come over to Battle Droid-Threepio and pops the protocol droid's head off, dragging it acros the arena. The Super Battle Droids and Battle Droids continue to overpower the Jedi. Artoo brings Threepio's head over to his body and begins to attach his counterpart. The enemy has surrounded the Jedi. Suddenly the droids stop. Dooku says his adversary has fought gallantly today, worthy of recognition in the archives. Windu doesn't buy the compliment and refuses to be bartered along with the rest of the Jedi. Dooku orders the Jedi to surrender. END OF CHAPTER
Opinion:
The Jedi arrive in the nick of time to further the action sequence closer to the actual Clone War battle. Some good action, but lacks a few key elements to make this much better than it is.
I like how one thing builds upon another. The execution brings you Mace and the other Jedi. Mace brings you Yoda in the next chapter, etc. It take the arena battle and multiplies it by one hundred. There are individual battles like Mace vs. Jango, which I am not a big fan of. Jango should have lived or not gone out like some punk. Obi-Wan, Anakin and Padme have their battles separating them at times.
Extending some of the ridiculous plots hurt this chapter. The Battle Droid-Threepio subplot is ridiculous, especially with the droid's annoying wit. The idea of aggressive negotations was a plot, I think that needed to be brought full-circle. Windu's entrance is well done, but I'm surprised Dooku didn't sense Mace behind him. Surprising since Sith can sense things.
The surrender line is a nice finish to this action sequence. Now we can go one step further with the battle outside of the arena. Pretty good chapter with some things I would definitely fix.
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3/8/05 11:59am
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The Threepio battle droid plot ridiculous? Is your "head on straight?" Man,"what a drag!" You've got me so upset "I'm quite beside myself!!!" ;-)
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Amon_Amarth
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3/8/05 1:17pm
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This party is over...
Dooku sounds like a bad parent here.
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Asharak
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3/8/05 1:54pm
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OK chapter, but its edited really badly. The jedi appear to be winning through the hole battle, except from a few deaths her and there, but suddenly there are only a few jedi remaining in the center surrounded by battledroids.
My point is that we don't really see a transition from winning the battle to losing it. Yes, we do see some of the jedi being pushed into the center, but its too sudden and we still see a lot of jedi fighting droids around R2 and C3PO and apparently having no problems destroying the droids around them, but in the next scene they are suddenly all dead or at the center of the arena.
We should have seen more scenes of droids entering the arena and not just the one time at the beginning.
Loved Obi Wans fight with the creature though.
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GrUnT_HUNTER
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3/8/05 3:08pm
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I thought it was a great chapter, except for the c-3po joke, but I guess that was for the kids. I did see several young kids giggling in the theatre when that happened. At least Lucas is looking out for the young'ns 
Also, whoever said something about the Jedi winning, then suddenly losing, I noticed that too.
In the scene before that, the Jedi are all scattered, but succesfully fending off droids individually, but in the next scene they are all bunched up and retreating.
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PhantomMenace
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3/8/05 3:38pm
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"Windu's entrance is well done, but I'm surprised Dooku didn't sense Mace behind him. Surprising since Sith can sense things."
Maybe that's because the audience wasn't supposed to know he was a Sith until later in the film. But I know they could have hinted at it a bit more.
Anyway, this is probably my favorite chapter in the movie. I love Mace's entrance... it just rocks. But why wasn't Jango wearing his helmet at the start of the scene?
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I actuly like the chapter after this better, it sets up for yodas arrival nicly.
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Katana_Geldar
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3/8/05 4:58pm
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Love this chapter escpecially for Mace's classic line: This party's over!
He just ROCKS!
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3/8/05 6:00pm
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I loved Mace's entrance. All the Jedi igniting their sabres throught the Execution Arena was hot! The dialogue between Dooku and Windu was ominous and had hidden underlying connotations. All the Jedi running with their sabres in a current of blue a green light was incredible!
C3PO's antics were cute but too frequent. I felt that in this scene, as well as in the scene with the younglings, the lightsabres were swung to rigidily and artifically. When Anakin is in the cart with Padme steering on the animal, his lightsabre blade moves up and down and side to side in fast, sudden, jerky moves that don't seem humanly possible. Even if they are, they are not elegant. The music, though acceptable, was so cut up and choppy it added a feeling of anxiety (too many clashing cymbols for one thing!).
When I watch the DVD, I usually watch Mace's entrance, then skip to the awesome scene where he deflects Jango's shots and kills him (cuz I think Vapaad is really cool!) then cut to the next chapter.
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3/8/05 6:02pm
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The Threepio/R2 subplot was all so horribly forced.
Highlight of the whole chapter is Mace's facial expression as he reclaims his lightsaber before Jango grabs it. He's stone serious right then, and then takes care of Jango like it ain't no thang. This shows just how good Mace is since Jango already iced a Jedi on the balcony relatively easy a minute or two earlier.
I mean, really, who wouldn't land on that balcony with their lightsaber already ready to go? That sucka paid for his slackitude.
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i hate how this lady turns on her saber at the beginining..
i also hate when this female and guy are fighting on top..and the lightsabers like.. mix ..so its confusing to tell whats happening
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3/8/05 7:18pm
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I would have liked to have seen Windu and Dooku get down and dirty with their sabers
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qui_gon_jinn_83
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3/9/05 3:30am
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I really, REALLY like Mace Windus entrance here.
I thought the 3PO switching heads was a very funny idea, but it does cross the line here a bit. Still, nothing that takes away from the battle for me.
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I like Windu's entrance but I don't like the line. Is a bit too cheesy cliche and not really what a Jedi Master would say.
The Jedi striking poses is a bit daft too.
I agree about the poor editing.
All in all a bit of a mixed bag. Just when it gets your adrenalin going something childish happens and pulls you right back out. They should have played this one straight.
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3/9/05 1:22pm
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Awesome, awesome action in this scene! I even like the threepio bit. It was absolutely necessary! You can't just have all action without a comic relief! Plus, R2 is the greatest so he needs as much screen time as possible. 
Christopher Lee has such a great speaking voice and I get chills just by listening to him. He's awesome. Also, I like the part when that jedi jumps up to take out Dooku, but Jango just shoots the crap out of him. Watch where Dooku's hand is, he's about to be grabbing that lightsaber!
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3/9/05 1:42pm
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I love the shot of the Jedi activating their lightsabers.
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