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Emperor_Gunray
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3/9/05 2:21pm
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I like Maces "This partys over" Line, one of the greatests delivered lines in the saga as well In my opinion as Samuel L Jackson sounds so serious as he says it.
I like Dooku not even flinching when he is about to be attacked, and Jango Fett saving him. I think Dooku was genuinley upset when Jango died.
Also, nice to see Nute Gunray in the battle cowering from all the explosions, quite brave of him to stick around, Poggle the Lesser seemed to have run off. And those dam Geonosian warriors are useless, they never bother to help, I'm sure if they had the support of the Geonosians flying troops in the final battle the Sepereatists would have had a better chance of winning.
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It was cool to see all the Jedi ignite there lightsabers and the Geonosians take off
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Is it too much to ask for an arial shot of the Jedi in a circle being closed in by the droids? I need it to complete my SW tarot deck and I can't find it anywhere.
Back on topic, go mace I;m looking forward to see him fight in ROTS
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Hmm. I like the concept of the chapter. Liked where Lucas was going.
The dialogue was awful. C-3PO was terrible. Didn't care for Jacksons acting.
The computer animation mixed with models mixed with live action worked well in a couple of spots. But not everywhere.
The bald female Jedi makes me cringe. Sarissa Jeng.
I did like the shot of all the droids enclosing around the jedi. Very dramatic and to the point.
I liked the Jedi entering the arena. First time we had seen such a large group of Jedi entering a fight. We basically saw though that they were outnumbered and while skilled, were dying off just the same.
Obi-Wan getting revenge of the Acklay was perfect. 
I was sad at two things. One was the cut concept of Nute Gunray getting hit with a fireball. I thought that was going to be hilarious. But Lucas added in the scene in the war room so he couldn't have just been set on fire. Maybe Lott Dod could have gone though.
The second was the cut scene of the droid control ship. I liked the old plot of the super battle droids not shutting off when the switch was flipped. But in the end I can see where that would make the droids look too powerful if they could operate without control.
So while sad to see them go, these were justified cuts.
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Tyranus_the_Hutt
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I mentioned this when posting in the previous chapter discussion in this forum, but although the action scenes here are mostly impressive, I did find this sequence to go on for too long. It's an interesting and ambitious conceit to cross-cut between the multilayered action scenes, but at some point here I think Lucas drives the material into overkill.
The C-3P0 puns are lame, I suppose, but don't bother me to the extent that they appear to gnaw at others. I think that it has to do with Anthony Daniels' delivery; he elevates the clunkiness of the dialogue. The Jango/Mace Windu final confrontation is rather underwhelming, but I suppose that Lucas needed to dispense with the character in an economical fashion - that he did, but at the expense of any sort of satisfactory resolution. The wide-angle reaction shot of Dooku and co. is exceptional, though, as is little Boba's shock at seeing his "parent" killed.
Good material overall, but still a little much.
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I thought it was fantastic, although Threepio was a little much.
Too bad we couldn't see "name" Jedi like Ki-Adi, Plo Koon and Aayla Secura fight. Instead we get a bunch of redshirts.
Loved the Mace/Dooku/Jango scene.
I personally loved the way Jango goes out - I know the storyboards made it look unbelievable, but the audience was shocked when Mace decapitated him. 
I think it's a great start to the Clone Wars, but could have been cleaned up and cut down a bit.
The scale is impressive.
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I liked this chapter, we get to see many jedi in a big battle with Battle droids, Super battle droids and Droidekas. Everything in the battle seems chaotic with all those droids swarming around and shooting at the jedis and the two giant beasts walking and running around and attack both droids and jedis. i dont mind the C-3PO and Battle droid mix-up, it hadn't hurt to have the nexu chased away by the reek when Anakin rode it instead of killing it, and to see what the nexu would have done in the battle and how it was going to be killed, do someone agree on that?
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DarthTunick
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Fantastic scene, 3PO is a bit much, but I can handle it. Dooku not sensing Mace is indeed strange, unless he felt arrogant enough that no harm would come, so he lets Mace sneak up on him.
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I feel the scene was over-all, good. Although, I don't particularly like Windu's "This party's over" and "I don't think so." I half expected him to put the blaster to Jango's throat and say
"WHAT PLANET ARE YOU FROM?"
"What?"
"What ain't no system I ever heard of, do they speak Basic on 'What?'"
"What?"
"Basic, Mutha' &@#%er! Do you speak it?! Describe what Master Yoda looks like!"
A few of those Jedi fought uber-lamely...stupid Form VI technique. And Bultar Swan...her means of activating her lightsaber is SO awkward! The way she brings it over her head, then down, and puts her hand out, as if to say "Fear me, for I am Bultar Swan!"...wtf is that?
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master_organa
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Loved the Mace/Dooku/Jango scene.
As someone who reads fanfic, that makes me cringe. 
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It's a fun little scene. C-3p0 is lovely  Would have liked a little more focus on the main cast of characters with more personal conflicts rather than a free for all rumble in the arena.
Like the topic starter, I don't care much for the jango vs mace thing. Jango's got no beef with Mace other than the lightsaber to the neck thing. He should have left and not gotten involved. There were plenty of robots to take care of the jedi; they do their job well.
Padme manages to show us more of her great robot-shooting skills. And abs. I enjoy her.
Looks like Mace needs a 'negotiator' to get him and his jedi friends out of this little snag.
Here comes YODA! Negotiate THIS Dooku!
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This is my favorite sequence from the film, and one of my favorite cinematic sequences. Its a really great action scene, and just generally a lot of fun.
And call me lame if you must, but I like 3PO's antics.
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"This party is over" line is amung my favourites. Then with all the Jedi geting ready to fight and the geonosians flying away, it looks really good. One of the best action sequences ive seen.
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things are happening all over the place - lots of action but the shananigans with c3 water down the concern, as does the line "aggressive negotiations", sure that's a device to show padme is in sync with anakin but it's playful and this is not a playful arena, and that's both literal and figurative. actually mace's line of party's over although greatly delivered and a fantastic look by samuel, it felt 21st century street slang. suspension of disbelief took a hit there. this episode with dooku will haunt mace - if only he had taken out dooku immediately instead of uttering the line.
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Thank you for all your participation in CBC (Chapter by Chapter). AOTC Chapter 42: Yoda's Cavalry DISCUSSION will be made available 7:30 PM EST. Although the discussion timeframe has passed, you may still discuss this chapter at your convienience. However, we will be moving on to the next chapter.
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