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anakinandpadmedoomed
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10/15/07 10:24pm
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RE: Hayden
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I agree with that too..they would of been able to tell sooner he was in trouble if he was going around going off on everybody..i think maybe the passage of time from ROTS to ROTJ hardened him also.
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Jedi_Master_Cazz
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10/23/07 5:22am
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Hayden ticks every box! 
And I don't mean that in a solely 'fangirl' sense. Hayden brang that butterfly-nervous, lip biting teen stuck between boyhood and manhood, trying to express his adoration to a sophisticated woman. He brought the dangerous edge and clipped tongue that is Darth Vader. And he instilled that Jedi pride and prowess that is Anakin Skywalker, back straight, shoulders back and march that hall hunny! And we must give him credit for aiding and lending his face to Darth Vader.
It must have been terrible to play a character who had also been played by all of four other characters, but cast away the reputation that is tied to every Star Wars movie and you'll see that innocent idealism that was passed to Luke, the quick temper that Leia inherited. For example, in ROTS, Anakin reprimands Padme sternly, "Don't ask me to do that," and then in ROTJ, "That name no longer means anything to me!" The same gesture, it was so eerie! Hayden has even paid attention to how the dark lord moves, the same long straight stride.
Hayden has done so well, nobody could tell! Like I said, he ticks every box! 
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anakinandpadmedoomed
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10/23/07 7:02am
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Jedi_Master_Cazz posted:
Hayden ticks every box!
And I don't mean that in a solely 'fangirl' sense. Hayden brang that butterfly-nervous, lip biting teen stuck between boyhood and manhood, trying to express his adoration to a sophisticated woman. He brought the dangerous edge and clipped tongue that is Darth Vader. And he instilled that Jedi pride and prowess that is Anakin Skywalker, back straight, shoulders back and march that hall hunny! And we must give him credit for aiding and lending his face to Darth Vader.
It must have been terrible to play a character who had also been played by all of four other characters, but cast away the reputation that is tied to every Star Wars movie and you'll see that innocent idealism that was passed to Luke, the quick temper that Leia inherited. For example, in ROTS, Anakin reprimands Padme sternly, "Don't ask me to do that," and then in ROTJ, "That name no longer means anything to me!" The same gesture, it was so eerie! Hayden has even paid attention to how the dark lord moves, the same long straight stride.
Hayden has done so well, nobody could tell! Like I said, he ticks every box!
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Well I agree with you in every "fangirl" way. 
he was a breath of fresh air and I could see luke and leia in him and thats what they needed the actor to portray.
to me he is the face of Darth Vader, thanks to the prequels..its hard to forget.
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Dark_Jedi_Kenobi
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Date Posted:
5/22 2:48pm
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Upping.
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DarthDuckie
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5/22 3:08pm
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He looked the part and he got better with time, but he's a mediocre actor. The script isn't an easy one to look like a good actor with, but the likes of Guiness, McGregor and Neeson managed to carry it off because they're far better actors.
He's OK. Passable.
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xx_Anakin_xx
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5/23 3:13pm
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I have never understood the criticking of original roles. He was perfectly what GL 'imagined' Anakin was like - that is what he wanted to show us. I've seen Hayden in lots of things and he can "act" differently if need be. But GL didn't want whatever image WE decide Anakin should be like, he wanted the one he came up with.
I have heard many people complain that Anakin wasn't great or bad in the role, but they never name scenes. I have watched it a zillon times and I am hard pressed to notice one scene in which I felt I wasn't watching this kid GL had in mind. I'm not saying Hayden is the only one who could do the role, but to me, he did an excellent job.
If something looks contrived or fake, it is because whatever Anakin is doing at that point is supposed to be that way. For example, he is not supposed to look comfortable kissing Padme - although there is a level of comfort there, but he's a Jedi and it is wrong, so it shouldn't look like a grand romantic kiss out of some romance novel with star crossed lovers. It is supposed to be a kid sneaking a cookie out of the jar.
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DRush76
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I agree with what you said. Well, I did have a problem with one of Hayden's scenes. I thought he was a little heavy-handed in his scene with Padme and Obi-Wan on Mustafar.
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5/25 11:35am
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Eternity85
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5/27 5:10am
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I think Hayden is alright! But i must say that the dialoge sucked. Look at some of the scenes, in AOTC and ROTS, its so forced, and you become to aware that they are acting, and that`s not good.
Watch Liam in TPM, its so natural, all you see is the character, Qui Gon.
So i think its a combination of the two, the actors own skills, and the directors writing.
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1. Alec Guiness
2. Liam Neeson
3. Harrison Ford
4. Christopher Lee
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Vortigern99
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5/27 7:16am
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As with Neeson as Q-G, so with Hayden as Anakin: All I see is the character. The first time I watched ROTJ post-ROTS, and I felt like I could see Anakin's face inside the helmet as he's looking back and forth between Palpatine and Luke, I realized the true, resonant effectiveness of Christensen's performance. Conversely, when Hayden speaks in that deep monotone on Mustafar, and if I think about it I can switch out his voice with that of James Earl Jones and perceive the similarities of cadence and tone, once again I realize what Hayden has accomplished.
I think what most people who dislike Hayden are objecting to is the character itself, not the actor portraying the role.
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DarthDuckie
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I thought he was OK, and he did improve in the course of the two films. But for me, the actor did get in the way of the character a bit. Whereas all I saw were Obiwan, Quigon and Palpatine, I did find myself having to strain to get past some of Hayden's acting to really reach Anakin. All the others had dodgy lines to read, but I believe their superior acting ability allowed them to overcome it better than Hayden. I'm not wanting to pan the guy. He was alright, but not one of the better SW actors in my view.
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SaberJedi2
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5/28 5:21pm
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I didn't think he was too bad. He improved considerably over the course of the two films and much of the stuff that we might cringe at is actually poor dialogue. I will say that he is an excellent "eye" actor. In both films he gives great looks and you can exactly what he's feeling.
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5/29 9:28am
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Maybe its my background in movies, etc., but I am a fantasy- sci fi nut and maybe I am just used to the serial type acting that is normal to that genre. I actually take exception when heroes and villians are too understated unless the role ademantly calls for it. Star Wars characters were often over the top, but that is what I totally expected. Hayden on Mustafar had to show a man who had essentially "lost it" to a degree that was greater than we'd seen him lose it to that point. This guy was supposed to be beyond reason - and the dialogue failed a bit in that regard, but I thought Hayden (and actually all of the actors there) played his role perfectly because I got that from his acting despite the shallow dialogue at that point. Again - fantasy dialogue is often shallow and made up for by the actors (or characters in comics), so even that didn't bother me at all ("Do you know why I am doing this Batman? Because Gotham needs a real hero! Your death will mark the end of the super hero tyranny in Gotham - what do you say to that well reasoned basis for your death, Bats??" Good dialogue?  ) Anyway, SW dialogue makes for fun analysis, but viewing it, it was perfect to me, I wasn't expecting Shakespeare.
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evenstarr
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I think zz_anakin-xx is right.
Hayden played Anakin exactly how GL wanted him presented, how much of that was directing and how much just happened i don't know though. I have just watched the prequel trilogy and for the first time i completely brought the Anakin character, i always thought Hayden did a good job in AOTC but wasn't so sure of ROTS, until upon recent viewing you understand that is the character arc and it's in the understanding of the story of Anakin. Christenson is Anakin.
The Anakin story is more a teen coming of age soap opera type thing gone wrong, it's just set in dream like Star Wars galaxy with really high stakes. I think that's part of what throws people with Hayden, but he suits the part very well.
Going from coming of age issues to Darth Vader isn't exactly the epic evil rise of DArth VAder that people expected, but it is actually a succinct case study.
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Eta-2
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6/11 8:19pm
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Vortigern99 posted:
As with Neeson as Q-G, so with Hayden as Anakin: All I see is the character. The first time I watched ROTJ post-ROTS, and I felt like I could see Anakin's face inside the helmet as he's looking back and forth between Palpatine and Luke, I realized the true, resonant effectiveness of Christensen's performance. Conversely, when Hayden speaks in that deep monotone on Mustafar, and if I think about it I can switch out his voice with that of James Earl Jones and perceive the similarities of cadence and tone, once again I realize what Hayden has accomplished.
I think what most people who dislike Hayden are objecting to is the character itself, not the actor portraying the role.
I think you pretty much nailed it. Hayden channels the movement's of Prowse and the voice of JEJ, combining them with the naive innocence of Jake Lloyd, then adds his own flair to it. It's a very masterful performance.
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