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Winston_Sith Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 5/24/05 9:06pm Subject: ROTS: The 1930's Monster Movie of The Saga - Date Edited: 6/24/06 11:17am (1 edits total) Edited By: darth-sinister
	Obviously, Darth Vader the Suited has the whole "Frankentein's Monster" thing going on at the end of ROTS. And it can be debated, that Anakin Skywalker has been the afore mentioned "Monster" from before the very start of TPM, as it is implied that he was "perhaps" created by either Darth Plegueis, or Darth Sidious by certain "un...natural" means. But there's more: Some, very astute, but virulently ROTS-Bashing fan reviewer bemoaned the fact that Padme looked, in one of the scenes, (the Padme's appartment "balcony" scene, if my memory serves me correct) too much like "The Bride of Frankenstein." He seemed to think it was "cheesy", but I KNOW that was not a coincidence. Who else's Bride would she look like, after all? I've also reard another, more ROTS-friendly fan reviewer mention his impression that General Grievous sounds like the Mad Dr. Pretorious, again from "The Bride of Frankenstein". In ROTS, Palpatine ends up looking like Lon Chaney in "The Phantom of The Opera" (and Ian McDiarmid was very gleeful about this turn of events). Which makes me think that George Lucas did not chose the title "The Phantom Menace" lightly. Has anyone else seen/heard any other 1930's and 1940's Monster Movie references while watching ROTS? -----signature----- Winston_Sith - Originator of the 'Frankenstein Theory' ROTS = the 1930's Monster Movie of The Saga http://boards.theforce.net/Revenge_of_the_Sith_/b10331/19892011/ Spoiler Free for SW TV!! http://boards.theforce.net/small_screen_star_wars/b10467/22279522/
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Winston_Sith Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 5/25/05 7:11pm Subject: RE: ROTS: The 1930's Monster Movie of The Saga
	bump I can't be the only one who thinks this is cool... or... can I? -----signature----- Winston_Sith - Originator of the 'Frankenstein Theory' ROTS = the 1930's Monster Movie of The Saga http://boards.theforce.net/Revenge_of_the_Sith_/b10331/19892011/ Spoiler Free for SW TV!! http://boards.theforce.net/small_screen_star_wars/b10467/22279522/
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Agent_SkywalKer Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 5/25/05 7:14pm Subject: RE: ROTS: The 1930's Monster Movie of The Saga
	It's not good to bump your own threads (I don't care though) but I noticed the Frankenstein walk of Vader.
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R2_3PO Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 5/25/05 7:17pm Subject: RE: ROTS: The 1930's Monster Movie of The Saga
	The reason Vader walks like that is becuase he is first walking with prostetic legs. -----signature----- Don't you call me a mindless philosopher, you overweight glob of grease.
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Leias_love_slave Registered: Oct '03	Date Posted: 5/25/05 7:17pm Subject: RE: ROTS: The 1930's Monster Movie of The Saga
	Hey, that reminds me: Are we really supposed to feel SORRY for the Frankenstein monster?!! I mean, he throws that little girl into the pond, and rips the Burgermeister's arm off!! I say he had the vengeance of the villagers with their torches and pitchforks, coming to him! -----signature----- "I was Leia's slave-boy." blushes
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Nihilist Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 5/25/05 7:27pm Subject: RE: ROTS: The 1930's Monster Movie of The Saga
	Other than the fact that anakin sort of resembles dracula with that cape and mad lust and hunger for power, anakin does look very much like a vampire..dark eyes, pale..or maybe a heroin addict. -----signature----- I find your lack of faith disturbing. The force will be with you, always. "Grasping at things can only yield one of two results: Either the thing you are grasping at disappears, or you do. It's just a matter of which occurs first."
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Whitey Registered: Jan '03	Date Posted: 5/25/05 7:28pm Subject: RE: ROTS: The 1930's Monster Movie of The Saga
	It's not 30's horror, but it is horror: Palpatine sounds like the demon in The Exorcist several times during Anakin's turn. Specifically: "No, NO, NO, NOOOO! YOU WILL DIE!" -----signature----- "Reach for the stars, my friend. The HOA waits for no man." -AaylaSecurOWNED
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Leias_love_slave Registered: Oct '03	Date Posted: 5/25/05 7:29pm Subject: RE: ROTS: The 1930's Monster Movie of The Saga - Date Edited: 5/25/05 7:35pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Leias_love_slave
	I know it didn't appeal to everyone, but I LOVED what Ian did with his voice! I was mesmerized by it! EDIT: Notice that his voice changes BEFORE the force lightning comes into play. This leads me to believe that his distorted face and voice are not necessarily meant to be the result of lightning damage. -----signature----- "I was Leia's slave-boy." blushes
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voodoopuuduu Title: Classic Trilogy Trivia Host Registered: Mar '04	Date Posted: 5/25/05 7:35pm Subject: RE: ROTS: The 1930's Monster Movie of The Saga
	Has anyone else seen/heard any other 1930's and 1940's Monster Movie references while watching ROTS? And the electrostaffs were supposed to be the light pitchforks ? -----signature----- Winner CT Trivia Challenge 44, 54 Winner PT Trivia Challenge 10 , 13, 14, 17 Joint-Winner CT Challenge 49 and 50, PT Challange 18
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Hades2021 Registered: May '03	Date Posted: 5/25/05 7:47pm Subject: RE: ROTS: The 1930's Monster Movie of The Saga
	TPM is sort of an adventure, AOTC is a love/mystery story, and ROTS is a 1930's monster movie. -----signature----- "LIAR!" "Anakin, you're breaking my heart!" Nute Gunray Fan club
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stormcloud8 Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 5/25/05 7:50pm Subject: RE: ROTS: The 1930's Monster Movie of The Saga
	Don't forget about Grievous, the Skeleton monster.
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KaptainKaos Registered: Nov '04	Date Posted: 5/25/05 7:53pm Subject: RE: ROTS: The 1930's Monster Movie of The Saga
	Rolls a 20 OMG I defeated Grievous, the king of skeletons. -----signature----- Life is like a noob, you'll never know the full extent of its stupidity.
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Felucian_Fantasy Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 5/25/05 7:54pm Subject: RE: ROTS: The 1930's Monster Movie of The Saga
	Well, the Tion Meddon guy looked a lot like a vampire, now that you mention it...
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palpatine427 Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 5/25/05 7:56pm Subject: RE: ROTS: The 1930's Monster Movie of The Saga
	I have a connection to a 1930's horror movie that fits more with Return of the Jedi, but I think it has some bearing here, too. Has anyone ever seen the 1935 film The Raven starring Bela Lugosi and Boris Karloff? I saw this film a few years ago and I noticed some parallels between it and the scene on the death star where Palpatine is electocuting Luke and Vader throws him into the reactor shaft. I'll try and explain it quickly here. In The Raven, Lugosi plays Dr. Richard Vollin, a doctor who has become obsessed with a young woman named Jean Thatcher, whose life he has recently saved. Miss Thatcher, however, does not return his affections. So Vollin enlists the help of Bateman (Karloff), a criminal who is trying to turn over a new leaf and asks Vollin to reconstruct his face and make him appear to be a different person so he can leave his old life behind. Vollin, seeing an opportunity, instead disfigures Bateman and promises to restore his appearance if only he would do his bidding for awhile. Vollin has Bateman tie up Ms. Thatcher's father and other friends and put them in some Edgar Allen Poesque torture devices (i.e., descending pendulum and such). When Ms. Thatcher refuses to give in to Vollin's desires, Vollin instructs Bateman to kill Thatcher's father and her fiancee but Bateman refuses and stops the torture device even as Vollin shoots him. Bateman then throws Vollin (who is cackling, kind of like Palpatine) into a collapsing room and both Vollin and Bateman die. As soon as I saw this movie I drew a parallel between Vollin and Palpatine and another between Vader and Bateman. I'm sure my synopsis was terrible but if anyone wants to see what I'm talking about, go rent the movie and tell me if I'm on the right track thinking that Lucas probably saw this movie and used it as inspiration for the whole Vader/Palpatine relationship.
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BlutEngel Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 5/25/05 7:57pm Subject: RE: ROTS: The 1930's Monster Movie of The Saga
	The reason Vader walks like that is becuase he is first walking with prostetic legs. I don't think argues against the fact of his artificial legs. BUT I think it could have been portrayed in a completely different way. Not in that Frankenstein way. But that's just me. It doesn't seem to bother a lot of people.
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Runecrow Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 5/25/05 7:58pm Subject: RE: ROTS: The 1930's Monster Movie of The Saga
	Sidious really was the mad scientist supreme. Think about it- he accomplishes everything every other mad scientist dreams of- all by himself: 1- screws with life to make new enhanced life form (unless you don't buy into Anakin being a Sith creation) 2- creates 'monster' Vader on table (he's alive! ALIVE!) 3- creates ultimate weapon of destruction 4- uses ultimate weapon of destruction 5- rules galaxy 6- corrupts the young 7- perfects diabolical laugh What else could any mad scientist dream of? -----signature----- Walks on his own, with thoughts he can't help thinking; Future's above; but in the past he's slow and sinking. Caught a bolt of lightning: cursed the day he let it go.
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