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What was, hands down, the best single thing in AOTC?
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tuskinraiderfromhell
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7/1/07 11:14am
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longinus0033 posted:
BobaFrank posted:
Nobody, and I mean nobody can tell me the dialouge in the fireplace scene wasn't plain awful. No,atrocious. No,possibly the worst in cinematic history.
I can tell you the dialogue in the fireplace scene wasn't plain awful. In fact, when I watch that scene, I don't usually cringe at all, it's fine to me. I believe the scene to be about on par with the rest of the love scenes in AOTC, which really aren't all that bad. There have been much worse scenes in movies, and to say that it's the worst in movie history is to go a little to far. But that's your opinion.
I can honestly say that the dialog in the fireplace was NOT plain awful. I rather enjoyed the love scenes in AOTC. I've NEVER had a problem with any of it. It's honest and old fashion. Is it bad dialog.....No, not in my opinion. It's just not done like this anymore, which I find refreshing, instead of the same ole love stories that every other direct is banging out, because they don't have the guts to try something new, they have to keep it modern and try to please the mass' and not themself. Kudos to Lucas for having the guts to stay true to HIS vision.
Lucas was well aware what he was doing, just read : Star Wars Mythmaking behind the scenes of Attack of the Clones, awesome read by the way, were he states on page 89: " The challenge was that I wanted to tell the love story in a style that was extremely old fashioned, and, frankly, I didn't know if I was going to be able to pull it off. A lot of guys were going to see this movie, and most guys think that kind of flowery, poetic talk is stupid. More sophisticated, cynical types also don't buy that stuff." on page 91 in regards to the fireplace scene: "Let's face it ..Lucas admits, their dialog is pretty corny. It is presented very honestly, it isn't tongue-in-cheek at all, and it's really played to the hilt. But is consistent not only with the rest of this movie, but with the overall Star Wars style. Most people don't understand the style of Star Wars."
Hayden Christensen also noted on pg 91: "When I first read the script a lot of dialog felt contrived and forced, and I was like, Oh, there's no way that's going to work, but there is a way of speaking in the Star Wars universe, and it is acceptable because it is another galaxy, far, far away."
The dialog was intentional. If it was in fact "bad dialog" the writer/directer wouldn't have a clue until it was to late. Lucas wrote the film in a certain style, well aware all the time what he was doing. It all boils down to personnel opinion, some didn't like, and some, like myself, did.
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Zak-Zahar
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7/1/07 12:38pm
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BobaFrank posted:
AOTC is the only SW movie that I fast-foward through. The love story is the reason. Mainly the damn dialouge. Nobody, and I mean nobody can tell me the dialouge in the fireplace scene wasn't plain awful. No,atrocious. No,possibly the worst in cinematic history. Other than that, I loved the movie. The action scenes were second to none.
The dialog in the fireplace scene wasn't awful. Heck, it wasn't even bad. It all depends on the intent of the director, and I believe the effect produced was intentional.
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Master_Starwalker
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BobaFrank posted:
AOTC is the only SW movie that I fast-foward through. The love story is the reason. Mainly the damn dialouge. Nobody, and I mean nobody can tell me the dialouge in the fireplace scene wasn't plain awful. No,atrocious. No,possibly the worst in cinematic history.
Apparently they can. 
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anakinandpadmedoomed
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Master_Starwalker posted:
BobaFrank posted:
AOTC is the only SW movie that I fast-foward through. The love story is the reason. Mainly the damn dialouge. Nobody, and I mean nobody can tell me the dialouge in the fireplace scene wasn't plain awful. No,atrocious. No,possibly the worst in cinematic history.
Apparently they can.
Yes, very bad dialouge in that scene...i hated it and im a girl and i would of laughed if someone talked to me like that ..but thats in gffa so maybe it was acceptable (even though i dont know why  ).
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obi-rob-kenobi4
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i have no problem with that scene! i dont see what the big deal is. it is a love story so there are going to have to be scenes like that. as a matter of fact i kind of liked that scene cuz it was the the part were after all there other scenes together they could finally be alone and have to talk about the thing thats been on both there minds.to me it just makes sense.-plus padme was freakin HOT! LOL
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longinus0033
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anakinandpadmedoomed posted:
Yes, very bad dialouge in that scene...i hated it and im a girl and i would of laughed if someone talked to me like that
What would you have had Anakin say?
And, not to sound dumb, but what does GFFA mean? haha
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Master_Starwalker
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GFFA = Galaxy Far, Far, Away
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longinus0033
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Oh yeahhhhh, I forgot...duh.
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anakinandpadmedoomed
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longinus0033 posted:
anakinandpadmedoomed posted:
Yes, very bad dialouge in that scene...i hated it and im a girl and i would of laughed if someone talked to me like that
What would you have had Anakin say?
And, not to sound dumb, but what does GFFA mean? haha
I would of put gffa in capitals but i didnt wanna get in trouble for e-yelling or sumthing...
I would of changed some of the words around..maybe leave out the part "I cant breathe".. i would of asked him if he was alright..  The only part of that conversation that was normal speak for me was "If you are suffering as much as i am please let me know" (or something like that).that was ok.
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I would of put gffa in capitals but i didnt wanna get in trouble for e-yelling or sumthing...
I would of changed some of the words around..maybe leave out the part "I cant breathe".. i would of asked him if he was alright.. The only part of that conversation that was normal speak for me was "If you are suffering as much as i am please let me know" (or something like that).that was ok.
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when he sed he couldent breath he meant that it was bothering him so much that she was all he could think about and with all the other things going on in his life at that point he was under a lot of presher and since he was a jedi he just toled her the truth about how he felt.haven't you ever wanted something so bad that it was all you could think about?
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DARTHCLANDESTINE
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anakinandpadmedoomed posted:
longinus0033 posted:
anakinandpadmedoomed posted:
Yes, very bad dialouge in that scene...i hated it and im a girl and i would of laughed if someone talked to me like that
What would you have had Anakin say?
And, not to sound dumb, but what does GFFA mean? haha
I would of put gffa in capitals but i didnt wanna get in trouble for e-yelling or sumthing...
I would of changed some of the words around..maybe leave out the part "I cant breathe".. i would of asked him if he was alright.. The only part of that conversation that was normal speak for me was "If you are suffering as much as i am please let me know" (or something like that).that was ok.
Well, if Obi Wan was there, he would have told him again "Take a deep breath" , like in the elevator scene when Anakin was thinking about Padme. I think therefore, it was deliberate for Anakin to say that. BTW, it is "If you are suffering as much as I am, please tell me!".
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DARTHCLANDESTINE posted:
anakinandpadmedoomed posted:
longinus0033 posted:
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Yes, very bad dialouge in that scene...i hated it and im a girl and i would of laughed if someone talked to me like that
What would you have had Anakin say?
And, not to sound dumb, but what does GFFA mean? haha
I would of put gffa in capitals but i didnt wanna get in trouble for e-yelling or sumthing...
I would of changed some of the words around..maybe leave out the part "I cant breathe".. i would of asked him if he was alright.. The only part of that conversation that was normal speak for me was "If you are suffering as much as i am please let me know" (or something like that).that was ok.
Well, if Obi Wan was there, he would have told him again "Take a deep breath" , like in the elevator scene when Anakin was thinking about Padme. I think therefore, it was deliberate for Anakin to say that. BTW, it is "If you are suffering as much as I am, please tell me!".
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I'd say put him out of his misery.. . Thanks for the correct qoute, The 100 of times ive watched that movie i cant even get the qoute right too painful to watch..or i just put the sound down and look at hayden ,good thing i cant read lips
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WormieSaber
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I like the first 20 minutes, when Anakin jumps into the yellow speeder and goes on the chase through the city. That to me is probably the best part of AOTC, just visually love that sequence (just before Zam dies).
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seeing the clone wars start was the best,i loved finally seeing that,but the whole movie was grate.  
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If I had to choose between the fireplace scene in AOTC and the scene between Leia and Han on Endor in ROTJ, I would definitely choose the former.
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