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Why does Palpatine appear older in EP 2 than in EP3?
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METAVOID
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6/19/06 9:52am
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Why does Palpatine appear older in EP 2 than in EP3?
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I am sure most have noticed this. Is it an implication of using his immense skills in the darkside to hinder his aging? He appears more youthful in EP3. Or is it a lack of continuity of aging in the makeup department for the movie?
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Ed-A_1978
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This is something that I have always wondered as well. I would like to think it has something to do with Palpatine's 'dark side' powers and not just bad continuity in make up!
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6/19/06 10:18am
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Originally they were going to have Palpatine slowly change into Sidious through the darkside basically corrupting his flesh, as it was implied in the novels and such, but Lucas did away with this in Episode III with a more instantaneous transformation.
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lovelucas
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6/19/06 10:41am
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channeling the scene where Palps says, "I love the Republic" or even his first scene where he expresses his concern for Padme - he doesn't appear older than he is RotS, IMO. What is surprising is the change in Palpatine and Ian - from TPM - where he looked, dare I say, dapper? even spunky - recalling that jaunty walk and look on his face (plus the hair) when he tells Anakin on Naboo that he will watch his career with great interest. The majority of the filming for TPM took place, I think, in 1997 with RotS' primary filming ending in the autumn of 2003 ~ so time has gone by but for me the biggest physical change in Palpatine is how old he does look in RotS.
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RE: Why does Palpatine appear older in EP 2 than in EP3?
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I honstly think he looks older in AOTC than in ROTS.
EDIT maybe he looked younger in ROTS because he was about to make his final move against the Jedi. So like he was just preparing. Just a thought.
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brook_33
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I never thought of that, but maybe he does look older in AOTC. It would make sense, if they were trying to gradually make him change into ROTJ Palpatine, but since Lucas decided to have a quick injury be the cause, they decided not to put make-up on him to make him look older in ROTS until his fight with Mace.
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I believe I read somewhere he was under the weather during the filming of AOTC.
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TaradosGon
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6/19/06 4:47pm
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I wish they could have at least kept ROTS palpatine and AOTC Palpatine consistent even though they changed Palpatine's transformation from slow decay to a quick corruption by dark side power. Instead of making AOTC Palpatine look older, scrap the idea and then revert to a healthier looking Palpatine for ROTS.
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sonofcoruscant
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It is kind of funny. I mean, there are a whole host of in universe reasons though, so no need to regard it as a continutity error. Hell, maybe Pals had a bad case of Corellian Meta Flu or something during the events of 2.
But it is a good observation.
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KILLER-CLONE
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6/19/06 6:21pm
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Surely this begs the question: was Palpatine's Sithy prune-headed features the result of deflected Force Lightning or the lowering of a sort of 'glamour' that was cloaking his real appearance?
That would account for the fluctuations in his appearance from Ep2 to Ep3.
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Master_Starwalker
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6/19/06 6:22pm
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I think it was the lightning reflected at him, but that's quite the subject of debate still.
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TaradosGon
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KILLER-CLONE posted:
Surely this begs the question: was Palpatine's Sithy prune-headed features the result of deflected Force Lightning or the lowering of a sort of 'glamour' that was cloaking his real appearance?
That would account for the fluctuations in his appearance from Ep2 to Ep3.
Personally I'd say neither. According to Knoll it was due to the "strain of all this exertion" that transforms him. This vague explanation I'd imagine means that he transforms because he is using so much darkside energy.
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KILLER-CLONE
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6/19/06 7:07pm
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By 'Knoll' I assume you mean John Knoll, set designer/FX dude, who is pretty low down the story writing food chain. So anything he says should be taken as opinion rather than fact.
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darthzeppo
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6/19/06 7:20pm
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Palpy got Botox? 
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TaradosGon
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6/19/06 8:23pm
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KILLER-CLONE posted:
By 'Knoll' I assume you mean John Knoll, set designer/FX dude, who is pretty low down the story writing food chain. So anything he says should be taken as opinion rather than fact.
Well if he worked on the scene then I think it's safe to say that Lucas would have told him what's going on. And it's not like anybody contradicts him in the commentary. Knoll and McDiarmid seem to push the idea that Palpatine's transformation was not a wound, while Hidalgo seems to be the one pushing for the "lightning did it" explanation which I'd say is less credible.
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KILLER-CLONE
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6/19/06 8:34pm
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Yeah well Hidalgo is even further down the food chain than Knoll. My opinion is worth about as much as Hidalgo's. And thats being kind to Hidalgo.
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