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drg4
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Does anyone else get rankled hearing the PT actors disparage the trilogy?
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I assume most of you have read the PR Inside article, wherein McGregor was purported to have expressed regret doing the trilogy, deeming them "the worst work he's done." Check it out:
http://www.pr-inside.com/mcgregor-dislikes-star-wars-movies-r210505.htm
Sure, this isn't the first time McGregor's lashed out at the franchise, and he certainly has progenitors (recall Neeson's grousing), but after reading this, I'm starting to think that in ten years time, the PT fanbase will constitute all of three people: George Lucas, myself, and that Lard Biscuit fellow. It's isolating enough being a fan without the bloody ACTORS(?!?!) going on the offense.
Did any of the actors actually enjoy being a part of cinematic history?
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Strilo
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They are entitled to their opinions just like the rest of us. I don't sweat it.
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LordVader66
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I understand where these actors are coming from. Lucas isn't a good director or writer. These actors sign up for these roles because of the great exposure they get, but it can't be fun making these films. 95% of the set is going to be digitally added, and the dialogue is terrible, what actor would enjoy that?
So now that Ewan has come out saying that was he worst work, we now have two main SW actors saying that, the other being Natalie Portman. Christensen has also gone on record with being disappointed with his performance in AotC.
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Strilo
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Saying 95% of the set was going to be put in digitally is false. That number is way too high.
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drg4
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LordVader66 posted:
I understand where these actors are coming from. Lucas isn't a good director or writer. These actors sign up for these roles because of the great exposure they get, but it can't be fun making these films. 95% of the set is going to be digitally added, and the dialogue is terrible, what actor would enjoy that?
Cleaning toilets? Not fun. Picking tomatoes? Not fun. Working the counter at Burger King? Not fun. Headlining a space opera? Considerably more tolerable.
And really, did these actors come into this expecting something akin to The Unbearable Lightness of Being? They're Star Wars flicks, for crying out loud.
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All of that is hearsay..IMO..if they didnt want to be in it they wouldnt have..I get the impression ewan and natalie and hayden all enjoyed themselves.Until they tell me that to my face(and like that is gonna happen) I wont believe it.
They have all done worse work then Star Wars.but that is IMO.
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Rossa83
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I did hear McGregor saying he liked the third one - and that the only reason why he didn't like the other two all that much was because of the green screen. And to be honest, the PT would benefit from using less CGI. But yeah, I think it's somewhat unprofessional to go out and bash it. I haven't heard Neeson do so. Could anyone post a link?
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Frankly, if Ewan had made more of an effort, instead of moaning, maybe he wouldn't have given such a patchy performance in ROTS! Half of his lines in ROTS sounded about as exciting as if he'd been reading the phone book. Maybe he felt/feels Star Wars is in some way beneath him, but you know what? The very least he could have done was tried, and in half his scene's in ROTS, he clearly wasn't! Same is true with Portman in AOTC, I might add.
And something else I notice, the actors that give consistently the best performances are the one's you never hear complain. Look at Ian Mcdiarmid and Christopher Lee. You never once hear those guys complain, and infact Ian seems to RELISH the opportunity he's been given and was determind to enjoy it and make the most of it. Even though he knew the writing wasn't up there with his stage works, he still gave every scene all the effort he could. I don't think thats a co-incidence.
Then look at someone like Bruce Spence. He was only in one scene, but you can just tell in the DVD footage how much care and attention he was giving the role of Tion Medon, even though he only had one scene and a few lines. And what happened? In just one scene he created one of Star Wars's most memorable characters. The same is true with Liam Neeson. I see lots of claims that Neeson supposedly didn't like TPM, but I've never actually seen or read one quote where he criticise's it or Lucas and as far as I'm aware he was always happy to come back for ROTS. It was Lucas and Burtt that didn't seem to want to bring him back.
Anyway, Ewan didn't like making the movies? Then frankly, he should have made more of an effort. And if he truely feels these films are his worst works, clearly he's wiped DOWN WITH LOVE and EYE OF THE BEHOLDER out of his memory! 
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I must admit that the actor echos my complaints about the saga as it progressed...the first movie was worthy of an oscar nomination but ever since then I felt that the emphasis was on showing off special effects rather than put together a "movie."
However, I don't actually see any of the actors refusing their paychecks or disclaiming any future royalties that they will be getting.
the real problem for the actors, though, is getting lost in the role (like the cast of gilligan's island). Harrison Ford is the only actor who has been able to use the popularity of his star wars character to acheive super stardom (thanks in part to Lucas and the Indiana Jones movie)
he shouldn't complain...after all he could have finished star wars and ended up doing a movie about snakes on a plane
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I feel it's his perogative and that anyone who is annoyed with Ewan for disparaging the films should feel the same towards Harrison Ford and Alec Guinness(who has said far, far, worse than anything Ewan has.)
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G-FETT posted:
you can just tell in the DVD footage how much care and attention he was giving the role of Tion Medon, even though he only had one scene and a few lines. And what happened? In just one scene he created one of Star Wars's most memorable characters.
That's a matter of opinion.
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Strilo
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Yeah and that's the beauty of discussion boards. We can all discuss our opinions. 
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Some random and not very well organized 'opinions' on this . . . .
First off, Lucas is a creative genius. He's also a very wealthy man because of his vision and his determination. That said . . .
For EPIII, George tried hiring a dialog coach to get the characters into each scene. The reason that he did so is that he's more into mechanics and effects than he is into the human experience. He could not convey human emotion to them. The set was a sterile sci-fi action serial location -- period!
One of the best in the entire saga, TESB, was considered to be the worst by Lusas according to THIS ARTICLE. Maybe that's because Irvin Kershner directed it and it didn't have Ewoks or Gungans!
Even the OT characters snipe at Lucas' inability to rev them up for scenes. GL would tell them to just make it work. Sir Alec Guinness, consumate pro that he was, could read the telephone book and make it sound good. He and Ford added some much needed seasoned experience to ANH.
The 2nd half of ROTS is what the entire PT should have been. It was gripping, flowed well and had better scene editing -- acting was hit and miss. Unfortunately, Lucas got more involved in marketing than writing and directing most of the time, resulting in an often spotty storyline and matching performances. But it is what it is.
IF there ever is another SW movie (pre-prequel or post-EPVI), I sure hope one of Lucas' buds directes it.
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Tion is the Priminister of Utapau I believe. the guy with the spikey teeth and scaley skin.
I think the only one who truly enjoyed doing the trilogy was Hayden because he was such a fan of the OT and was basically just a no-name Canadian actor before SW [disgarding Life as a House] plus how could you not be happy playing young darth vader?!
I regret to hear Ewan disliked the trilogy so much, because he did a marvelous job as Obi Wan. I mean, sure, SW has become somewhat childish, mainstream and more fx focused rather than storyline, but that doesn't the change the greatness of a galaxy far far away.
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drg4
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G-FETT posted:
Frankly, if Ewan had made more of an effort, instead of moaning, maybe he wouldn't have given such a patchy performance in ROTS! Half of his lines in ROTS sounded about as exciting as if he'd been reading the phone book. Maybe he felt/feels Star Wars is in some way beneath him, but you know what? The very least he could have done was tried, and in half his scene's in ROTS, he clearly wasn't! Same is true with Portman in AOTC, I might add.
Exactly. The fact that Lucas isn't an actor's director doesn't absolve Portman for her travesty of a performance in AOTC. Heck, Mayor MacCheese could have been helming that flick and she still should have been disciplined enough as an actress to aim for...well, I'd settle for mediocrity.
G-FETT posted:
And something else I notice, the actors that give consistently the best performances are the one's you never hear complain. Look at Ian Mcdiarmid and Christopher Lee. You never once hear those guys complain, and infact Ian seems to RELISH the opportunity he's been given and was determind to enjoy it and make the most of it. Even though he knew the writing wasn't up there with his stage works, he still gave every scene all the effort he could. I don't think thats a co-incidence.
Chalk it up to equal parts talent and class.
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Anyway, Ewan didn't like making the movies? Then frankly, he should have made more of an effort. And if he truely feels these films are his worst works, clearly he's wiped DOWN WITH LOVE and EYE OF THE BEHOLDER out of his memory!
To say nothing of A Life Less Ordinary and Nightwatch. A Revenge of the Sith goes a loo-oo-ng way with a resume like that.
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Stay he must of forgotten about that masterpiece.
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