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Strilo
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Let's get back on topic.
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Sabreman posted:
I think it's worth pointing out that McGregor didn't actually say that he "regretted" making the Star Wars films. He simply told someone that of the films he had made, he enjoyed making the Star Wars films the least.
Not surprising when you consider that for the Geonosis force field scene they had him spinning around and hanging by his crotch.
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ShaneP
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The articles headline doesn't really square with Ewan's quote though. He said it was his least favorite performance. Does that = regretting them?
Papers do this kind of stuff all the time. They write their own conclusions in the headline and the content of what is said doesn't quite match.
But headlines cath your eye.
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Master_Starwalker
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I just don't get why Ewan's opinion of the films matters at all.
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Strilo
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I agree with ShaneP completely. I thought that when reading the thing myself.
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Master_Starwalker posted:
I just don't get why Ewan's opinion of the films matters at all.
It doesn't, really. His performance as Obi-Wan in the films is what matters, and I think it was a fine performance. And I feel he and Hayden Christensen did a good job with the Obi-Wan/Anakin camaraderie in Episode III. But what do I know? I mean, I'm someone who loves the original series of Star Trek, in spite of the fact that William Shatner is supposedly a terrible actor.
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Ewan seems like a really nice guy, but his whinging about making the prequels is unprofessional to say the least. Obviously, greenscreen work/CGI is the way these big fantasy films are made nowadays and Lucas was leading the way there. If he was unhappy about the final films, publically bashing them is disrespectful to Lucas, his fellow cast and crew members, and the fans. If he was unhappy with his own performance, he had three films and several years to get it right! It seems strange that on visiting a dying child, he would bash Star Wars, which, let's face it, would be the only movie of his which would have been of interest.
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ShaneP posted:
strilo
G-Fett, you're complaining about Ewan's and Natalie's performances. Well, excuse me, but who is supposed to yell "cut!" or "let's try again" if the performances aren't up to par? Who was ultimately responsible for the finished product we saw up on screen? Remember the talk about Lucas liking the first take and then moving on?
You have a good point. We know Lucas is not an actors director and that his strength's are in other areas. But then I come back Mcdiarmid who seems to be able to perform time after time after time. He does it despite Lucas maybe, but nevertheless he still does it. And he enjoy's doing it, which is maybe the fundamental differance between his performance in ROTS and Ewans? I mean, look at Ewan and Ian's differing attitudes to blue screen;
1. Ewan constantly complains about it and says how hard it is to act in a blue screen enviroment.
2. Ian says that acting in a blue screen enviroment isnt so much hard, but just differant. And really, its not that far removed from acting on stage, where you invariably have to use your imagination to act as though your not really on a stage, surrounded by wooden sets.
It just seems to me tyhat Ewan often comes at these films from a negative angle and that, on occassion, impacts in his performance.
Still, its all over now, and when Ewan is good, he's very good. His Immolation speech made it worth him being in the SW movies on its own, IMO.
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Kal posted:
It seems strange that on visiting a dying child, he would bash Star Wars, which, let's face it, would be the only movie of his which would have been of interest.
I thought so, too, but when I reread the story, it was the kid's dad that asked the question. The sick child is only three years old.
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Strilo
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Kal posted:
Ewan seems like a really nice guy, but his whinging about making the prequels is unprofessional to say the least. Obviously, greenscreen work/CGI is the way these big fantasy films are made nowadays and Lucas was leading the way there. If he was unhappy about the final films, publically bashing them is disrespectful to Lucas, his fellow cast and crew members, and the fans. If he was unhappy with his own performance, he had three films and several years to get it right! It seems strange that on visiting a dying child, he would bash Star Wars, which, let's face it, would be the only movie of his which would have been of interest.
See I disagree with this completely. I think Ewan and any other actor is entitled to his opinions, especially in these cases where someone ASKS him what he thinks. Ewan is free to say what he wants, even about our beloved Star Wars and any other work he's been a part of.
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It's just like us who work..who come home moaning and groaning about the job..It's thier job..its just more high profile than the average person's.they can have an opinion also.and besides i really do not believe all that the media says..and they seem to twist people's words around alot.
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i really do not believe all that the media says..and they seem to twist people's words around alot.
This is what I was talking about earlier. The article says he thinks "his performances were his least favorite" in the PT. But does that mean he regets doing them?
I think it's a stretch to say because his performances in the films were his least favorite that he regets it entirely.
THAT is jumping to conclusions. And artists are always overly critical of their own work. That might be all he was talking about. A personal assesment. But he might have enjoyed the hell out of working with everyone.
And don't forget he did tell George after ROTS he'd be available to do whatever SW in the future.
Again, the press took an article and created a sensationalistic headline that doesn't fit what was said.
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Something else to consider. Ewan revered Alec Guiness and his portrayal. He said Sir Alec was Obi-Wan to him. He spent alot of time thinking about Guinesses' performance and trying to bring what he could to the role to match it.
Now knowing how no-BS Ewan is, he's not going to compare his performance against someone he admired and say "Oh, I thought I did a great job and nailed it."
No, he's going to compare his interpretation up against the original and be critical.
That's another way to look at it.
Or maybe he just hates the prequels. 
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Master_Starwalker posted:
I just don't get why Master_Starwalker's  opinion of the films matters at all.
Fixed.
LordVader6x11 posted:
I though he only told George to have the arm break off and Anakin and Obiwan are stuck on the thing. Is there anything else he influenced?
The whole turn was altered as a result of the opinions from three stooges that Lucas consulted. Sinister has the more factual info.
ShaneP posted:
Remember the talk about Lucas liking the first take and then moving on?
Worthy of mention is the fact that many actors don't get warmed up till they've had a few takes.
Good point about Ewan's respect for SAG in saying he WAS Obi wan to him.
And I am on the same page with GFett. Ian's performance through the whole PT was brilliant.
The dude will always be Darth Sidious to me, he stole the show.
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And I don't think they rehearsed much, if at all, on TPM and AOTC. I think ROTS was their first rehearsal.
Imagine that. You have this 125 million dollar juggernaut and you don't rehearse your actors.
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Why is actor whining in general annoying? Because these guys got a fat check and fame to do what we'd all love to do for free. They got to be a part of SW history. Grousing about it to the press seems graceless and tacky to me, and that goes for the OT era actors who did the same thing back in the day, too. Kwitcherbeefin' and be glad you got to be a part of something big like SW.
That said, I'm suspicious this particular story about Ewan is either bogus or yet another misquote. Remember the faux story about Natalie getting snubbed for Celebration IV? Unless there's more proof, I'm inclined to give Ewan the benefit of the doubt.
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