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*OFFICIAL THREAD* Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan vs Darth Maul
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lightthunder1
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Date Posted:
11/22/07 10:00am
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*OFFICIAL THREAD* Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan vs Darth Maul
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I have made this thread to talk about the battle of Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan vs. Darth Maul all in one thread.
So like in this thread you discuss the duel.
Ok I will start off.
I always wondered if Qui-Gon was trying his hardest.
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jedimasterbac
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11/22/07 10:14am
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I don't see why he wouldn't have tried his hardest. He knew how important it was to not let Darth Maul escape, because if both Obi-Wan and him failed then there was a good chance that Maul might have captured or killed Anakin on the spot, and if he didn't kill him then there's a good chance that Anakin would have been seduced earlier on. He knew what was at stake.
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anakinandpadmedoomed
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11/22/07 10:29am
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I always thought Qui-gon went down kind of easy, he should of been able to beat Maul.
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sith_rising
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11/22/07 3:43pm
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Even up to the bitter end, I never really got the feeling that Qui-Gon was using is full potential to actually kill Darth Maul. Maybe it's just that he kept his cool and didn't use the Dark Side at all, or never seemed to give in to the slightest amount of rage. He always seemed like he was measuring Maul, interested in him, probably trying to sense if he was a true Sith Lord and how he tied into the whole Naboo debacle. Even moments before his death, he looks at Maul with a bit of curiosity. He simply underestimated Maul's weapon; if Maul had used a single blade, it may have ended in Qui-Gon's favor.
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Master_Starwalker
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Qui-Gon fought as hard as he was able within the frame work he was willing to fight under, which was fighting solely with the Light Side. However, I think he was partially trying to figure out why the Sith Lord he had fought on Tatooine was on Naboo and how he had known that they would be coming.
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anakinandpadmedoomed
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^ That's true too.
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Katana_Geldar
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One reason I thought that Maul beat Qui-Gon wasa that Maul was (presumable) half Qui-Gon's age. Qui-Gon just got tired, he wasn't able to keep up and Maul caught him unawares.
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I thought that too, but I'm not sure how to reconcile that with Dooku's ability to dominate Obi-Wan in AotC and RotS.
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jedimasterbac
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11/22/07 4:51pm
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It's also possible that he thought he'd be able to help Anakin, Obi-Wan, Yoda, etc. better if he passed on and used the secret of the Order of the Whills.
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Master_Starwalker
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It is, but I think that credits Qui-Gon with a foresight that he didn't have. He was a great Jedi, but I don't think he saw what was coming it in it's entirety.
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Master_Starwalker posted:
I thought that too, but I'm not sure how to reconcile that with Dooku's ability to dominate Obi-Wan in AotC and RotS.
Dooku has a rather different fighting style to Qui-Gon. Form II and Form VI are almost opposites, IV uses the whole body a lot, II is about the hands and the feet.
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Master_Starwalker posted:
It is, but I think that credits Qui-Gon with a foresight that he didn't have. He was a great Jedi, but I don't think he saw what was coming it in it's entirety.
Yeah, that's true. He was all about concentrating more on the moment rather than a possible future.
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SithStarSlayer
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11/22/07 5:49pm
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There were many factors that contibuted to Jinn's demise: age, opponent, fighting style, combat environment, pace and distance covered. I like the Novel's POV on how the duel unfolded. IMO, once the Jedi were separated, all three of them knew which one of them was about to die.
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Qui-Gon is the ultimate Jedi-- the only one (within the context of the films) who has stayed true to the lightside and who was never tempted to gain temporary power by triping the light fantastic of the darkside.
In the earlier confrontation with Darth Maul on Tatooine Qui-Gon was not only pushed to his limits, but may have been defeated had not Obi-Wan, warned and alerted by Anakin, been in a position to rescue his master. The bottom line is even at this earlier stage, Qui-Gon took the prudent path and escaped. He knew then that the Sith had returned and they had the potential to challenge and defeat the Jedi.
- He must have known even earlier, I think. Perhaps this is why was he so tuned into finding the Chosen One.
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lightthunder1
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11/23/07 8:56am
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well I know obi-wan was not trying his hardest before qui-gon died
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11/23/07 1:10pm
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I think it's important that Qui-Gon wasn't actually trying to kill Maul as he was trying to capture him. I doubt he went by the "kill first and ask afterwards" principle. Had the Jedi entered the duel with the intent of killing Maul, things could've been quite different. Just note how both OBW and Qui-Gon fights better alone - simply because they have to...
But ultimately, Maul was a ferocious dueller, and although he might not beat Qui-Gon at every encounter, he would be no push-over for anyone!
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