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LordVader66
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Date Posted:
12/25/07 7:39pm
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The Prequel Trilogy Force Awards
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From the prequel trilogy, what I believe are the best of best Force actions and duels. Split into Jedi and Sith categories. Feel free to add more awards.
For Jedi:
Best Use of the Force: Qui Gon Ginn, ability to return from the netherworld of the Force, Aotc-RotS
Best Performance in a Duel: Mace Windu, Mace Windu vs. Darth Sidious, RotS
(If Mace wasn't set up! )
Best sense of the Future: Mace Windu, "I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi", RotS
Best Force Jump: Anakin Skywalker, Anakin's jump off the speeder during speeder chase, AotC
Worst use of the Force: Not exactly his fault...Anakin Skywalker, Force visions, RotS.
Worst Performance in a Duel: Jedi Posse, Darth Sidious vs. the Jedi Posse, RotS
For Sith:
Best Use of the Force: Darth Sidious, throwing Senate Pods at Yoda, RotS
Best Performance in a duel: Count Dooku, Count Dooku vs. Anakin Skywalker and Obiwan Kenobi, AotC
Best Sense of the Future: Darth Sidious, "I sense Lord Vader is in danger", RotS
Best Force Jump: Darth Vader, over the lavafall onto the driod, RotS
Worst use of the Force: Darth Vader, final Force jump attempt agaist Obiwan Kenobi, RotS
Worst Performance in a Duel: Darth Maul, Darth Maul vs. Qui Gon Ginn and Obiwan Kenobi, TPM.
Agree? Disagree?
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Arawn_Fenn
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Date Posted:
12/25/07 10:12pm
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RE: The Prequel Trilogy Force Awards
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LordVader66 posted: Best Force Jump: Anakin Skywalker, Anakin's jump off the speeder during speeder chase, AotC
That wasn't what I would call a Force jump, it was a fall.
LordVader66 posted: Worst Performance in a Duel: Darth Maul, Darth Maul vs. Qui Gon Ginn and Obiwan Kenobi, TPM.
A Sith Apprentice killed a Jedi Master ( who was a noted swordsman ). Not too shabby.
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Darth-Seldon
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Date Posted:
12/26/07 12:29pm
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IF anything the worst peformance in a duel would be Count Dooku in Sith. It was just plain sloppy.
disgrace. Dooku also never killed any Jedi (in the films anyway.)
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LemmingLord
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For Jedi:
Best Use of the Force: Yoda, shirking off all infirmaties to battle Dooku, AOTC.
Best Performance in a Duel: Yoda, AOTC.
Best sense of the Future: Yoda, "Cloudy this boy's future is."", TPM
Best Force Jump: Obi Wan catching up for the battle of the fates; TPM.
Worst use of the Force: "Republic credits will do fine..." Mind Trick, TPM.
Worst Performance in a Duel: Jedi Posse, Darth Sidious vs. the Jedi Posse, RotS
For Sith:
Best Use of the Force: Darth Sidious, Diminishing the Force Powers of the Entire Jedi Council, Entire Trilogy
Best Performance in a duel: Darth Maul, Two at Once, Apprentice Takes Down a Master, TPM
Best Sense of the Future: Darth Sidious, "I sense Lord Vader is in danger", RotS
Worst use of the Force: "Another thing not going to my plan? INCONCEIVABLE" Darth Sideous, TPM
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ForceJumpAnakin
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Jedi
Best Use of the Force: Yoda - ROTS. Shoving the Red Guards and Palpatine off his chair.
Best Performance in a Duel: Anakin, in Anakin vs Dooku - ROTS
Worse Use of the Force: A Tie between Anakin and Obi-Wan: Anakin's last Force Jump in ROTS. Obi-Wan opening the door on Kamino in AOTC. I understand it could have been locked, but he looked so focused while doing it, almost funny, it came off looking trivial to me in the film.
Sith
Best Use of the Force: 2 guys, Dooku and Maul. Dooku in ROTS lifting and throwing Obi-Wan, and Maul force pushing Obi-Wan off the platform. Very cool
Best Performance in a Duel: Senator Maul in his aggresive negotiation with Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon.
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RC1309
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If you play the Episode III video game (I don't know if the cutscenses are cannon or not), his jump from the control arm that is just going over the edge of the lava waterfall to that droid platform is utterly stellar.
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xx_Anakin_xx
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For Jedi:
Best Use of the Force: Anakin landing the Trade Federation Flagship - or what was left of it, AOTC.
Best Performance in a Duel: Anakin whacking off Dooku's hands, ROTS.
Best sense of the Future: "he is the chosen one, you must see it" - Qui-Gon calling it with perfection, TPM
Best Force Jump: Anakin over the lava fall onto the stoop. ROTS.
Worst use of the Force: the Jedi in the midst of the battle at Geneosis who stood with his lightsaber straight out unmoving during about 15 seconds of the battle scene in the background...what was he doing??? Still haven't figured that one out. AOTC.
Worst Performance in a Duel: Jedi Posse, Darth Sidious vs. the Jedi Posse, ROTS.
For Sith:
Best Use of the Force: Classic move of the entire series: Lord Vader at the end of the separatist massacre whips the lightsaber over head, nonchalantly and negligently takes out his final opponent without touching him - almost as an after thought. ROTS.
Best Performance in a duel: Darth Sidious v. Mace and gang, initial spinning thrust, ROTS.
Best Sense of the Future: Darth Sidious, "I sense Lord Vader is in danger", RotS
Worst use of the Force: Darth Maul in his battle v. Obi-Wan. Dark Lord of the Sith or Janitor? TPM
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MasterLuke83
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Sith:
Best Use of the Force: Either Dooku/Yodas faceoff with flying objects and concrete and Dookus exit in AOTC, or Maul's elegant force tossing an object to open the doors at TPM's saber duel.
Best Performance in a Duel: Darth Maul's ninja swordsman style in TPM.
Best sense of the Future: Sidious' grand plan.
Best Force Jump: Dooku flipping over the rails in ROTS... lol
Worst use of the Force: Choking Padme in ROTS.
Worst Performance in a Duel: Darth Maul once again. Using the force to pluck Obi Wans fingers from his support down below wouldve been smarter than standing there shocked.
Jedi
Best Use of the Force: Yoda in AOTC duel and ROTS senate duel.
Best Performance in a Duel: Obi Wan ROTS, and Yoda in AOTC.
Best sense of the Future: Qui Gon in TPM noticing the chosen one.
Best force jump: Mace jumping into the Geonosis arena on fire while deflecting bolts. Nicely done.
Worst use of the Force: Qui Gon's failed attempts to persuade Watto lol
Worst Performance in a Duel: Same as last user: Jedi Posse, Darth Sidious vs. the Jedi Posse, ROTS.
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Master_Starwalker
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Date Posted:
3/8 9:28pm
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For Jedi:
Best Use of the Force: Qui Gon Ginn, ability to return from the netherworld of the Force, Aotc-RotS
Agreed.
Best Performance in a Duel: Mace Windu, Mace Windu vs. Darth Sidious, RotS
(If Mace wasn't set up! tongue )
I'd go with Obi-Wan in the Mustafar duel actually. Mace was Palpatine's equal so it's not remarkable that he could beat him, however Obi-Wan on paper is far weaker than Anakin, and yet he holds his own and comes out victorious.
Best sense of the Future: Mace Windu, "I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi", RotS
I'd go with Yoda's "Great danger I fear in his training."
Best Force Jump: Anakin Skywalker, Anakin's jump off the speeder during speeder chase, AotC
Agreed.
Worst use of the Force: Not exactly his fault...Anakin Skywalker, Force visions, RotS.
Agreed again.
Worst Performance in a Duel: Jedi Posse, Darth Sidious vs. the Jedi Posse, RotS
It's either them or Coleman Trebor, Coleman Trebor vs. Jango Fett/Darth Tyranus
For Sith:
Best Use of the Force: Darth Sidious, throwing Senate Pods at Yoda, RotS
I'd go with Sidious, but for hiding right under the Council's nose.
Best Performance in a duel: Count Dooku, Count Dooku vs. Anakin Skywalker and Obiwan Kenobi, AotC
I'd say Sidious vs. the Posse. He did wipe out three of the Jedi's finest swordsmen in a matter of seconds.
Best Sense of the Future: Darth Sidious, "I sense Lord Vader is in danger", RotS
Agreed.
Best Force Jump: Darth Vader, over the lavafall onto the driod, RotS
I'd say it's a tie between that and Sidious's jumps in the Senate
Worst use of the Force: Darth Vader, final Force jump attempt agaist Obiwan Kenobi, RotS
Agreed.
Worst Performance in a Duel: Darth Maul, Darth Maul vs. Qui Gon Ginn and Obiwan Kenobi, TPM.
I'd go with Darth Tyranus vs. Darth Vader(for all intents and purposes) on the Invisible Hand. Tyranus was able to handle Anakin, but once Skywalker started drawing on the Dark Side(ie: fighting like Vader) he dominated the Count.
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BigBoy29
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Best Use Of The Force - Anakin navigating the Boonta Eve Classic - insane odds, amazing "reflexes".
Worst Use Of The Force - Dracula doing summersault to greet Kenobi and Skywalker. - cheeseball, ridiculous.
EDIT - For 3-4 years, from 1977 to 1980, the Force had nothing to do with jumping and throwing things. It meant steady control, extreme focused reflexes, and the ability to help/trick another person through concentration/ESP.
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sith_rising
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For Jedi:
Best Use of the Force: Qui-Gon's conquest of death
Best Performance in a Duel: Anakin's quick and absolute victory over Count Dooku
Best sense of the Future: Yoda's "I sense much fear in you"
Best Force Jump: Anakin Skywalker's leap upwards in the droid foundry. It reminds me of Luke's jump aboard the Death Star 2
Worst use of the Force: Qui-Gon's inability to use the Force on a weak-willed slave-owning gambling junkie!
Worst Performance in a Duel: definately the posse, or Obi-Wan's performances against Dooku
For Sith:
Best Use of the Force: Sidious hurling Senate pods like they were pebbles
Best Performance in a duel: Darth Maul versus the Jedi in TPM
Best Sense of the Future: Sidious tying Order 66, the Jedi Posse and Anakin's turn into one self-serving incident
Best Force Jump: Maul dismounting his speeder to attack Qui-Gon
Worst use of the Force: Anakin failing to sense a metal arm about to whack him in the grape in the droid foundry
Worst Performance in a Duel: Sidious and Dooku's inability to beat Yoda
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Master_Starwalker posted: Worst use of the Force: Darth Vader, final Force jump attempt agaist Obiwan Kenobi, RotS
Agreed.
Unless the issue is speed, I don't agree that a better jump was "attempted" there.
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Master_Starwalker
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I go back and forth on it, but I took it as Vader getting overconfident and deciding to try to kill Kenobi with his saber mid-jump when he really could have simply moved the platform to the shore.
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Arawn_Fenn
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Except do we see him try to kill Kenobi with his saber mid-jump, in the film? ( And if we believe the video game, he intended to kill Kenobi with a backward stab after completing the jump. )
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Master_Starwalker
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We don't and that the video game contradicts would probably disprove that.
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Arawn_Fenn
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If you mean contradicts ROTS in that scene, of course it does; it's an alternate timeline. But it has been my position that we're meant to see that cutscene as evidence of Anakin's intent. However, it still doesn't seem completely clear why Obi-Wan does what he does in that scene... unless maybe he's expecting some kind of downward stroke from the front...
On this issue, the novel offers that Anakin leapt "at Obi-Wan's back".
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