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If Palpatine/Darth Sidious knew that the Queen was on Tatooine why not send a Trade Federation Ship?
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Joe_Garelli
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Dec '07
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1/13 5:48am
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If Palpatine/Darth Sidious knew that the Queen was on Tatooine why not send a Trade Federation Ship?
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It is pretty obvious that Palpatine/Darth Sidious knows that the Queens royal shuttle has chosen to dock on Naboo (How did the Sith exactly figure that out in the EU anyway?) so if that was true why not tell Trade Federation Viceroy Nute Gungray and have him send a Droid Control Ship to Tatooine to capture Queen Amidala's ship and everyone that is aboard it? Why send Darth Maul when the Trade Federation could come and make threats and force the Queen into going back to Naboo by killing more people?
Its not as if the Hutts are going to do anything anyway, the Hutts wont risk being on bad terms with the Trade Federation by attacking a Droid Control Ship in orbit over Tatooine (look at how scared they were of the Empire) i think the TF would gotten her quickly, and i always viewed the Sith revealing themselves as being very foolish and not a logical move and this takes away that dumb mistake, basically getting the Queen back and not revealing the Sith at all until maybe years later after the crisis is over with.
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sith_rising
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1/13 7:38am
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Sending an entire Trade Federation battleship to arrest Queen Amidala on Tatooine would definately be overkill. It's a job better suited for a single hunter like Darth Maul, or maybe a bounty hunter.
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Joe_Garelli
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You totally missed my point about the Sith Lords not having to reveal themselves, i hope that my logic isnt over your head.
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Darth_Davi
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1/13 9:22am
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Joe_Garelli posted:
It is pretty obvious that Palpatine/Darth Sidious knows that the Queens royal shuttle has chosen to dock on Naboo (How did the Sith exactly figure that out in the EU anyway?) so if that was true why not tell Trade Federation Viceroy Nute Gungray and have him send a Droid Control Ship to Tatooine to capture Queen Amidala's ship and everyone that is aboard it? Why send Darth Maul when the Trade Federation could come and make threats and force the Queen into going back to Naboo by killing more people?
Its not as if the Hutts are going to do anything anyway, the Hutts wont risk being on bad terms with the Trade Federation by attacking a Droid Control Ship in orbit over Tatooine (look at how scared they were of the Empire) i think the TF would gotten her quickly, and i always viewed the Sith revealing themselves as being very foolish and not a logical move and this takes away that dumb mistake, basically getting the Queen back and not revealing the Sith at all until maybe years later after the crisis is over with.
First, there is the question of timing. Nobody knew where Padme's ship went until AFTER she stupidly tried to contact Naboo, after Sio Babble contacted her, allowing them to triangulate their position. At that point, Palpatine doesn't know how long they will be there, so speed would be of the essence. Darth Maul, in his infiltrator, can go places quicker than a trade federation battleship, and do so far less conspicuously.
Then, assuming that a trade federation DID show up in the skies of Tatooine, under what authority could they justify capturing her? They don't control Tatooine, and would be hard pressed to explain why that ship was there to the Hutts. You got your logic wrong...The Hutts wouldn't want to be on bad terms with the Republic, not the Trade Federation. The Republic is the governing body of the galaxy, not the TF. The Hutts, if they aided the TF in any way to capture Padme Amidala, are committing an act of war against the Republic. Why would they stick their necks out? The TF wouldn't bring the whole blockade, they couldn't jam the communications from Tatooine like they could Naboo, so, the information that a TF ship was in orbit would be noticed.
Darth Maul was a far better choice. When you are trying to capture a single individual, you send in a small force, not an entire battleship. When that individual is being protected by two Jedi, you send in someone who can handle Jedi. TF droids could not hope to be as effective against Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan as Maul would have been, and they couldn't send in the entire ship's worth of troops, because the Hutts would consider that an invasion on their turf. Maul can sneak in unnoticed, and has the skills that would enable him to fight the Jedi bodyguards...Stealth plus the ability to fight her bodyguards effectively are things the TF would not have been able to do. Yes it revealed the Sith, but what did that revelation do? it began a 10 year wild goose chase that distracted the Jedi from detecting Palpatine's machinations...
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JEDIGUNSHIP
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I agree. If the TF had sent a ship, that would have gone against the image of Nemoidians in TPM, who are supposed to be bureaucrats and not actually warriors. The Royal Starship getting through the blockade attributes that point; they only shot at the ship instead of trying to get an idea of where it was headed (a.k.a. tracking device). Nute Gunray expected that the queen would just surrender to the TF.
Secondly, I think that Sidious was right in sending Darth Maul, because he would not track attention, which a large batlleship would.
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DarthDuckie
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The reason he sent Maul was the presence of the Jedi.
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Then, assuming that a trade federation DID show up in the skies of Tatooine, under what authority could they justify capturing her? They don't control Tatooine, and would be hard pressed to explain why that ship was there to the Hutts.
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Point is, nobody in the Senate would give a crap even if they did send a Trade Federation ship.
But IMO, Darth Maul was sent for expediency. But the point of the Sith needing to "reveal" themselves at that point may not have been necessary.
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DantSolo
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It's entirely possible that Sidious was ready to reveal the return of thr Sith.
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FirBholg
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DantSolo posted:
It's entirely possible that Sidious was ready to reveal the return of thr Sith.
Exactly. "At last we will reveal ourselves to the Jedi." Palpatine's plan relied upon visible Sith involvement at this point.
The queen didn't answer Sio Bibble's transmission. She couldn't have. She did not see the message until she had returned to the ship, long after Darth Maul had already landed on Tatooine.
How, precisely, the Sith tracked the Queen to Tatooine is not stated in the film in any clear way. It's merely suggested that Sith have the means to do so.
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rumsmuggler
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Sending a trade federation battleship into Hutt territory isn't a very smart idea, unless they are bringing a lot of cash with them to pay off the hutts in order to get to the naboo that on the planet. Sending Maul was easier, smarter, and would draw little to no attention.
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5/22 12:55pm
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rumsmuggler posted:
Sending a trade federation battleship into Hutt territory isn't a very smart idea, unless they are bringing a lot of cash with them to pay off the hutts in order to get to the naboo that on the planet. Sending Maul was easier, smarter, and would draw little to no attention.
Exactly. Sending Maul ensured (or so he thought) that the job would be carried out quickly and discreetly.
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Agreed. The way to do that job quickly is to send a highly-trained operative.
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TaradosGon
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Panaka: "The Hutts are gangsters, if they were to discover her..."
Qui-Gon: "Then it would be no different than if we landed on a planet controlled by the Trade Federation. Except the Hutts are not looking for her, which gives us the advantage."
If the Trade Federation sent a ship to Tatooine, it is possible that Jabba, or some other Hutt, would take an interest in their presence there and spy on them. It might draw Hutt attention toward the queen, in which case the Hutts would be after the Queen as well. It was in the best interest of the Trade Federation and Sith, whom wanted her to sign the treaty, that she be brought into the custody of the Trade Federation without drawing too much outside attention.
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