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Strilo
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RE: What was the point of Grievous?
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If you just take the films, Grievous works fine as a character. He's not supposed to be some fierce Jedi killer. He's what he is and he works well.
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SithStarSlayer
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The main-point of the Droideka's shield is not for protection from direct lightsaber contact, but from the return fire of their own weapons. They were capable of firing fast enough to keep the Jedi from getting close enough to do damage with a blade. We do not know from the film if the shield was able to negate a lightsaber, or if it provided some measure of defense. But what we do have is Qui-Gon's statement: "It's a stand-off. Let's go!" And then they 'Carl Lewis'd, on crack' down the hallway.
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Dark_Jedi_Kenobi
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Strilo posted:
If you just take the films, Grievous works fine as a character. He's not supposed to be some fierce Jedi killer. He's what he is and he works well.
That's kind of my feeling as well. Lucas needed a leader for the Separatist Army and Grievous was the perfect fit. His back story includes the persona of being a "Jedi killer" and while not explored explicitly in the films, it has served to further develop his character in other productions. Would I have preferred to see Grievous execute Shaak Ti in the opening sequence? Yes, I would have. I think it would have added another layer to his character. Is it a huge deal that that scene was omitted? No, it's not. I think Grievous served his intended function perfectly well.
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Eternity85
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Grievous was ok. But in my mind he was a little to much. You know, he hunts Jedi for sports,
wields lightsabers. No i didnt like it, not at all. Why of all things did he have to wield four lightsabers? I think Lucas made Grievous the way he did, to satisfy the random non-star wars fan, who would think this was really cool. I think he GG was a good idea, but then everyone wanted him to be like a super killer with lightsabers, ridiculous IMO.
But i agree with Strilo, if you just take the film he is alright. Except for the lightsabers of course.
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Nordom
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I found Grievous to be a largely pointless waste of screen time and a poor villain.
He was in no way shown as a credible threat, he bragged and boasted a lot but when it came time to fight he ran. The only time he did fight he lost very quickly.
He did not have an interesting character, he was a cliché villain and a bad one at that.
Also he did not do much in the way of being a general, we neer saw him command armies or anything much to justify why he was SO important for the clone wars. Basic film rule, show don't tell. On the whole there never was much sense about what was going on in the clone war, what was either side doing, what was the overall strategy? All we get is that the separatists wants to capture the Wookie world and this world is important to the republic.
Also about the need for a general, we've seen the droid army for two movies now and they have apparently never needed a general but now all of a sudden they have one?
We had a fairly good and interesting villain character in Dooku but Lucas choose to kill him off 15 minutes in and instead we get a poor excuse of a villain.
Lastly does Grievous have lungs? He coughs so that suggest yes but if he has lungs and needs to breathe then how did he survive in deep space?
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Go-Mer-Tonic
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His biological bits were encased. It's like when people go into space in a space suit. It's pressurized and all that. It wouldn't be too far fetched to imagine there being some kind of oxygen reserve that would allow him to "hold his breath" for short periods of time.
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Alpha-Red
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I think Grievous worked very well as a concept....but unfortuantely he began to fall apart as they tried to bring the character to life. It also seems to be very true for the PT in general, it was all a great concept but in the end the execution of it all just did not those concepts any justice.
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CuppaJoe
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3/5 6:13am
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To the people saying Grievous was soley for the money:
He was barely even marketed. We didn't see him in trailers, nor did we see him on merchandise packaging. All of that was reserved for Vader. He just had a small role Clone Wars and a sneak preview figure.
Grievous' only purpose is for Obi-Wan's mission. Sure, it could have been anybody that Obi-Wan could have hunted - but might as well make him eye candy, right? 
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SithStarSlayer
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"He was barely even marketed."
Surely you jest?
He was everywhere.
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SithStarSlayer posted:
"He was barely even marketed."
Surely you jest?
He was everywhere.
I dunno. Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought the marketing was centered exclusively on the Vader/lava theme.
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Go-Mer-Tonic
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Yeah, there wasn't much Grievous in the ad campaign. A couple TV spots and a brief appearance in the trailers.
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SithStarSlayer
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Marketing isn't limited to TV spots and movie trailers.
He was all over the print-work for the Toys, Books, Comics, CW-Cartoon, the internet and especially on these boards. From Borders, to 'the Bon' Target and everything in between... he was on cardboard cut-outs, posters and prominently featured in a bunch of magazine articles.
He was WAY overhyped in my eyes.
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Dark_Jedi_Kenobi
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3/5 12:58pm
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I agree with SSS. While Grievous wasn't the key player in the trailers, he was certainly a major marketing tool in toys and other merchandise.
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SoonerSean
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3/5 1:37pm
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In the 100th issue of SW Insider he's ranked #19 in a list of the 100 Best things about SW.
That puts him ahead of Han, Chewie, Mace, etc.
Not sure who picked the list but they were obviously doing those death stick things from AOTC.
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SithStarSlayer
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I got an even better one, Jar Jar is like # 55 on that list.
I want to see what those guys were smoking when they compiled the list...
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