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DARTH_BELO
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3/20 3:31pm
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ROTS: Why did the episode begin "there"?
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I have always wondered this. I don't know about anyone else, but in my opinion, the beginning of the story of ROTS seems like we kind of came in to the middle of something. That is in fact what did happen. But I always wondered if that bothered anyone.
My personal view is that the whole movie seems more exciting and intense if we come into the opening sequence with as much action as ROTS did. It caught me right away. But there were also times that I kept thinking, "...But what happened before that? How did they get to this point?" Almost as if I turned on the TV to watch a program I love, and I missed the first half of it.
For the most part, the other episodes start at a point that more represents the beginning of a story, (or in this case, the beginning of a PART of the story .)
I was interested in hearing everyone else's take on this!
Does anyone else share my feelings on this matter?
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SithStarSlayer
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I don't know, but this is probably better suited for the Official Thread: Quick and/or Random Questions About the Prequel Trilogy
Even though it took forever to find it.
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*points to the forum header*
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Found it!
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I like that about ROTS actually. It throws you into the action, your kkind of disoriented, have to figure things out as they happen and you get a sense of history, appropriate for a storyline that begins in the midst of a years-long intergalactic war. It reminded me of the original film. The capture of Palpatine would just be another unnecessary action scene, anyway, the real meat is seeing how Anakin and Obi Wan respond to it. Maybe the fact that the Clone War cartoon series showed all this made it easier to omit for the film.
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PetraKenobi
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DARTH_BELO posted: I have always wondered this. I don't know about anyone else, but in my opinion, the beginning of the story of ROTS seems like we kind of came in to the middle of something. That is in fact what did happen. But I always wondered if that bothered anyone.
My personal view is that the whole movie seems more exciting and intense if we come into the opening sequence with as much action as ROTS did. It caught me right away. But there were also times that I kept thinking, "...But what happened before that? How did they get to this point?" Almost as if I turned on the TV to watch a program I love, and I missed the first half of it.
For the most part, the other episodes start at a point that more represents the beginning of a story, (or in this case, the beginning of a PART of the story .)
I was interested in hearing everyone else's take on this!
Does anyone else share my feelings on this matter?
Personally i liked it, but I would have liked a bit of background; like Obi-Wan and Anakin's near-year long mission.
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Again, Zombie is the man! The 2nd Clone Wars DVD literally ends right before ROTS begins. I know some folks don't like them, but the Clone Wars DVD's are my Episodes 2.5 and 2.9. They really add to the films and give some of the characters that you never really get to know in the films more substance (Shak Ti, Kit Fisto, and that crazy General G. especially).
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It throws you into the action, your kind of disoriented, have to figure things out as they happen and you get a sense of history, appropriate for a storyline that begins in the midst of a years-long intergalactic war. It reminded me of the original film.
Yep, I like that kind of beginning over the others.
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The original film started with a lengthy action scene too.
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YYZ-2112
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One of the main reasons the Star Wars series has been so successful is because it manages to tell a large story and keep most of it hidden from the audience at the same time. By having long gaps of time between films with little to no explanation on what occured, the story becomes more intriguing. Really consider that the films cover the average length of a man's life and yet we only see maybe a year of actual time protrayed on screen and that's including part of that time lost between scenes. Ultimately what this does is allow for us the audience to fill in the gaps with our own imagination. This is also why things like the origins of the Sith, or Yoda's home world are not revealed to us, because it maintains an aire of mystery. This gives it the same quality as a 'myth'
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It was Awesome! Space battles are my favorite part of Star Wars so I was immediately captivated. It did indeed leave you wondering what had come before, and the animated series answered that to some degree, but the new series will prolly furthur enlighten us.
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After the slow beginnings of TPM and AOTC, the ROTS intro was great. Like the beginning of ANH, we jump right into a battle with little explaination. The entire first half hour of ROTS was Star Wars at it's best.
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I actually liked the way it started. If you see AOTC, you know by the end of it their in the Clone Wars. The yellow scroll tells you what you need to know, that Palps has been kidnapped and Anakin and Obi Wan have returned from the Outer Rim Seiges to rescue him.
However, mid-fans who didn't see the Clone Wars series, or read any of the books were probably asking "Who the hell is this General Grievous? I thought Dooku was the supporting bad guy! He didn't get killed in the other one, did he? "
But I like the way it starts off in the battle about Coruscant. It grabs the audience in about 3 seconds, if that.
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Um because it was set against a war backdrop.
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DARTH BELO
But there were also times that I kept thinking, "...But what happened before that? How did they get to this point?
Read Labyrinth of Evil by James Luceno and watch the Clone Wars DVDs.
YYZ-2112
By having long gaps of time between films with little to no explanation on what occured, the story becomes more intriguing.
It also helps broaden the scope and size of the SW universe through suggestion.
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Since the inception of STAR WARS, the idea has been to throw the audience into the middle of things -- a narrative conceit called in medias res or IMR -- right from the outset, to immerse the viewers in a world about which they are wondering "How did it all start?" and "Who are these people?" or "What's happened since the last time we saw these guys?" This has the effect of hinting at a massive backstory which lends weight to the illusion of reality. Plus which, it's fun! The audience need not have seen the CW animated series to understand the events; I still haven't seen Season 2 or 3, and ROTS seems to start at a perfect dramatic moment, IMO.
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