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DRush76
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5/20 10:35pm
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The same thing happened in "A NEW HOPE". It started with Vader's ship battling Leia's ship and the sequence ended with a small battle aboard the Alderaanian ship . . . and the two droids' escape.
"RETURN OF THE JEDI" started with the rescue of Han already in motion.
"ATTACK OF THE CLONES" started with the assssination attempt of Padme.
And didn't the "Labrynith of Evil" novel ended with Palpatine's kidnapping and the Jedi's discovery that there was a connection between the Chancellor's circle of friends and the Sith?
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JEDIGUNSHIP
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5/22 5:26pm
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DRush76 posted:
The same thing happened in "A NEW HOPE". It started with Vader's ship battling Leia's ship and the sequence ended with a small battle aboard the Alderaanian ship . . . and the two droids' escape.
"RETURN OF THE JEDI" started with the rescue of Han already in motion.
"ATTACK OF THE CLONES" started with the assssination attempt of Padme.
And didn't the "Labrynith of Evil" novel ended with Palpatine's kidnapping and the Jedi's discovery that there was a connection between the Chancellor's circle of friends and the Sith?
Great points, DRush76. If there isn't something to get you interested while staying true to the story, then the movie lacks some critical depth. Plus, the battle in ROTS doesn't really matter until the Jedi show up in their fighters.
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To Coruscant being attacked...
The Outer Rim Sieges saw nearly every Republic ship and soldier run rimward to attack the Confederacy, which abandoned the Core, Colonies and Inner Rim thirty of so months into the war. Palpatine then sent half the Coruscant forces to join the Outer Rim Sieges, where the Confederacy and Republic were nigh evenly matched. Dooku handed secret Jedi hyperlanes into the Deep Core to Grievous, allowing his force to bypass most of the Republic defences around the Core and attack Coruscant, himself mining the routes around the capital and stationing forces near exit points. With various codes provided by Dooku and Sidious, he captured Sidious after a week long battle saw Republic forces slowly detach themselves from the Sieges and run to assist.
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TheTrueGods
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In the last clone war cartoon, Grievous captures Palpatine and takes him aboard his command ship.
Just before that Mace crushes Grievous's ribs - thats why he is coughing and wheezing in RoTS.
Obi-Wan and Anakin are on some planet and are told to come to Corscant immediatly and save Palpatine.
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adamlee
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The opening was perfect. I remember hearing the war drums and the familiar echo of the force theme and said to myself, "so this is it, the end." Just what Lucas wanted, I assume.
I do agree that Grievous and Dooku are kind of wasted. I think in a perfect world for me Darth Maul would never have died until ROTS. This would have given Obi Wan so much more to do, as well as show him wrestle with his anger and loss of Qui-Gonn.
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General_Phoenix
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I love how ROTS opens up. I didn't think much about what was going on prior to the opening shot, because I was so caught up in what was going on in the present. I guess a little prologue would be kinda cool though.
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Dark_Jedi_Kenobi
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DRush76 posted:
And didn't the "Labrynith of Evil" novel ended with Palpatine's kidnapping and the Jedi's discovery that there was a connection between the Chancellor's circle of friends and the Sith?
Yes it did. It actually ended with Mace Windu chasing Sidious' trail when Grievous attacks.
As for the beginning of ROTS, my feeling (in addition to what I posted above) is that Lucas wanted to start the film off with a bang. Like DRush76 pointed out, many of the films have started with the action already taking place and the audience not being fully up to speed on what is taking place.
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And even if the movies didn't start out in the middle of the action, we could still wonder what preceded the first scene. At some point we just have to accept that the first scene is the start of the story and if any prior events are to be of any consequence, we'll be told about it during the movie.
Plus, in this this case, the crawls do a lot for filling us in on the action/story preceding the first pan.
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adamlee posted:
The opening was perfect. I remember hearing the war drums and the familiar echo of the force theme and said to myself, "so this is it, the end." Just what Lucas wanted, I assume.
I think this is really the essence of it. GL's vision. One of his early treatments has the opening with the war drums, with the space cruiser heading into a giant space battle - on a scale that was impossible to do like this in 1977. The blockade runner/star destroyer opening in ANH is stunning, but I think the opening of ROTS was more along the lines of what Lucas envisioned all along.
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THX_1138biggs
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Revenge of the Sith's opening is the epitome of Star Wars.
When I watch it I think, "This is Star Wars."
The massive war space battle occuring above Coruscant's skies is one of the most breathtaking images I have ever seen in any movie.
I think Lucas loves to tease people, yet show them the potential of what a movie CAN do. By using the film medium to its best, and not totally explaining what happened before (just a slight description in the opening crawl) we are bombarded with all these images signaling a war ravaged galaxy.
He shows us the best parts and hints at the larger scope through the dialogue and the characters themselves, who really actually tell the story of the prequels.
The audience sits on the edge of their seats as they watch the beginning sequence and their imaginations explode and they wonder how everything came to be.
Lucas owns the audience in that opening sequence, its amazing. And I love it more everytime I watch the movie.
But I think the film began the way it did because Lucas just loves to entertain as well.
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