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The Jedi Mind Trick and the General Populace Misconceptions
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LemmingLord
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4/19 8:36pm
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*zombielike*
They only work on the weak minded.
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EmeraldBlade
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4/19 9:11pm
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LemmingLord posted:
*zombielike*
They only work on the weak minded.
What does that mean though?
Is it an IQ thing?
Or perhaps more to do with the way a person's brain is "wired"?
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Darthbane2007
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4/20 6:34am
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EmeraldBlade posted:
Darthbane2007 posted:
Well, is there any reason for people NOT to fear the Jedi Mind Trick?
Bingo.
Yeah. People hav reasons to fear Mind Tricks. Jedi could use it to suit their own needs. Think of it this way:
( Qui-Gon is at the grocery store, stocking up on food.)
Rodian Cashier: Your total for your purchases come up to $300.00 credits.
Qui-Gon, to himself: D@mn! I didn't bring that much! But I have a way out of this..
( He closes his eyes and focuses his mind, moving his fingers in a sideways swiping motion.)
Qui-Gon: Oh, my mistake sir. You only have to pay $30.00 credits.
( The rodian cashier, in a sort of daze, seems to repeat his exact words.)
Rodian Cashier: Oh my mistake! You only have to pay $30.00 credits. This computer seems to be acting up today.
( Qui-Gon gives his Payment, the cashier gives him back change, and Qui-Gon walks out of the store with his food, a huge grin on his face.)
Okay, maybe not like that, but Jedi mind trick people to suit their needs. I think Palpatine told Anakin something to this effect in the ROTS novel: " They plan to replace my government with people their Mind Tricks can control."
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rechedelphar
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4/20 6:39am
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voodoopuuduu posted:
Because Obi-Wan only used it against druggies and mind-numbed stormtroopers. 
Which brings up the point of why didnt he use it against Jango Fett when he first met him.
Obi-Wan : You will follow me to the old folks home on Coruscant in your ship.
Jango: I will follow you to the old folks home on Coruscant in my ship.
It would have saved a lot of trouble and transport problems.
I doubt it would work on Jengo Fett.
Lets examine this:
It worked on:
Stormtroopers
Boss Nass (surprising?)
Bib Fortuna
Did not work on:
Jabba
Watto
So by those results how is one considered to be "weak minded"?
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LemmingLord
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I find it interesting that the parts of the universe we see that are NOT controlled by the Republic happen to be controlled by Hutts, who maybe immune to mind tricks...
The conspiracy theorist in me says that the jedi formed and held together the Republic through mind controls.
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voodoopuuduu
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^^^ Interesting theory, but the mind trick did seem to wear off, at least on Boss Nass.
They probably did use it in negotiations, as evidenced by Dofines statement:
DOFINE : I knew it! They were sent to force a settlement, eh. Blind me, we're done for!
But I wonder what happened after it wore off. Talk about having a buyers remorse. face_tongue]
I doubt it would work on Jengo Fett.
Lets examine this:
It worked on:
Stormtroopers
But Stormtroopers/Clonetroopers, at least some were clones of Jango Fett in ANH and got his weaknesses. Of course, we dont know which ones in ANH were whos clones.
Jango seemed strong willed, but not necessarily strong minded.
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Jedi_Master_Cazz
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Perhaps weak minded is a bad term? I think weak willed is a better one, but would sound terrible in the theater!
Stormtroppers. Had genetic modifications to make them more docile.
Bib Fortuna. Was a henchman.
Their used to being told what to do, Jango, Watto, Jabba and Padmé wouldn't let anyone walk over them like that. A Jedi Mind Trick is a psychological order, in a nutshell.
As to the wariness of the people, they know that Jedi have this extra feature than other people, they know their gifted, I think it might be born out of a little bit of fear, and/or jealousness.
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Tikei-Fore-Tu-Wan
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4/30 12:01am
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The general populace's resentment of the Jedi is tantamount to the current world opinion of the U.S. They were seen as bullies who forced their own agenda on others in the name of Democracy. Their interference (as viewed by the general populace) was unwarranted, unwanted and often ineffectual in the long run.
As far as the Mind Trick, as stated before, it was primarily used on people who were already used to being told what to do. Weak-Minded, Weak-Willed, Weak-Personality, whatever way you wish to slice it... Even the "Salesman" in AOTC could be considered as being used to being told what to do by the Death Sticks, as he has one in his hand.
A counterpoint to the person who saw OB1's use of the MT on this poor sot: in Ben's eyes, he was doing the man a favor, saving him from himself. This sort of thing could be easily cited (again, by the general populace) as the very sort of unwarranted meddling that breeds resentment of the Jedi.
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Chico_Jedi
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Since the Jedi were good guys, I bet they didn't do mind tricks unless the situation really demanded it. But it's a powerful (and scary) ability, one that will certainly be remembered by ordinary folk. Maybe people know about the mind trick mostly from stories, which isn't much when it comes to revealing the real thing. Take Padme for example; she asks about mind tricks, but doesn't now that there are obviously limitations to it, like taht it doesn't work on the weak minded.
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