Author Topic: What would Yoda have done if Anakin had told him Palpatine was the Sith Lord?
Darth Sin 
Registered: Oct '99
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Date Posted: 4/22 9:23am Subject: What would Yoda have done if Anakin had told him Palpatine was the Sith Lord?
This thought came to me and maybe it has been discussed before. But I could not help but think and question what Yoda have done if Anakin had come to him and told him that Palpatine was the Sith Lord. In other words, if the roles were reversed and Mace had gone to the Kashykk and Yoda remained at the Temple, how would Yoda have reacted to the news from Anakin that Palpatine was a Sith Lord?

1. Would Yoda have taken the three Jedi Masters or went alone?

2. Would Yoda have taken Anakin with him?

3. How would Yoda have handled Palpatine trying to manipulate and lie to Anakin about the Jedi trying to take over.

4. Would Yoda have been the same as Mace declaring that Palpatine must die, or would he have had him arrested and taken in after having him beaten?

As I write this, I have to say I think Yoda would have handled this situation differently. I am not saying necessarily better than Mace, but rather differently. I will not elaborate on my on thoughts until I hear from many of you others.

I will say though to questions 1 & 2 that I do not think Yoda would have brought the 3 masters, but I somehow believe he may have had Anakin go with him.

Your thoughts.

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emporergerner 
Registered: Jul '05
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Date Posted: 4/22 9:54am Subject: RE: What would Yoda have done if Anakin had told him Palpatine was the Sith Lord?
I do not excatly now how Yoda would have handeld it, but my guess is he would have been more cautious. Mace just kinda went in and said come with us your under arrest. Yoda I think would have handled it better and much diffrently.

 

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Darthbane2007 
Registered: Oct '07
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Date Posted: 4/22 10:15am Subject: RE: What would Yoda have done if Anakin had told him Palpatine was the Sith Lord?
Simple.

Yoda would have took Chuck Norris, Superman, and Goku at SSJ3, confronted Palpatine, and say " Arrest, you are under my lord."

 

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Vortigern99 
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Registered: Nov '00
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Date Posted: 4/22 10:27am Subject: RE: What would Yoda have done if Anakin had told him Palpatine was the Sith Lord?
Darth Sin posted:

1. Would Yoda have taken the three Jedi Masters or gone alone?

2. Would Yoda have taken Anakin with him?

3. How would Yoda have handled Palpatine trying to manipulate and lie to Anakin about the Jedi trying to take over.

4. Would Yoda have been the same as Mace declaring that Palpatine must die, or would he have had him arrested and taken in after having him beaten?


1. He went alone later, after the other Jedi had been killed or dispersed, and almost beat Sidious. It's a fair bet to conclude that Yoda would have been wise enough to take other Jedi with him, and with their strength added to his own, would have been able to defeat and arrest Sidious.

2. Yoda would have left Anakin behind, just as Mace did.

3. Yoda would have been as stymied by this as Mace was; all his protests to the contrary would likely not have swayed Anakin from under Sidious' influence.

4. Yoda would have arrested Palpatine rather than try to kill him.

 

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rumsmuggler 
Registered: Aug '00
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Date Posted: 4/22 11:25am Subject: RE: What would Yoda have done if Anakin had told him Palpatine was the Sith Lord?
Darthbane2007 posted:
Simple.

Yoda would have took Chuck Norris, Superman, and Goku at SSJ3, confronted Palpatine, and say " Arrest, you are under my lord."


You forgot Kyle Katarn. tongue

 

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Arawn_Fenn 
Registered: Jul '04
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Date Posted: 4/22 11:37am Subject: RE: What would Yoda have done if Anakin had told him Palpatine was the Sith Lord?
Not really. In the GFFA "Chuck Norris" means Kyle. tongue

 

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MasterAnders 
Registered: May '02
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Date Posted: 4/22 11:41am Subject: RE: What would Yoda have done if Anakin had told him Palpatine was the Sith Lord?
I thnik there would be no OT!
Yoda would have talked differently to Anakin. And Anakin may have told Yoda what sid said about saving someone from death....
If so, Anakin would have understand that all sidious said was all a lie, and then Sidious would die!!

 

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Arawn_Fenn 
Registered: Jul '04
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Date Posted: 4/22 12:20pm Subject: RE: What would Yoda have done if Anakin had told him Palpatine was the Sith Lord?
Except it wasn't.

 

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SaberSlash 
Registered: Apr '08
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Date Posted: 4/22 7:07pm Subject: RE: What would Yoda have done if Anakin had told him Palpatine was the Sith Lord?
If Yoda rushed off like Mace, Anakin would still turn. Yoda did not relate Anakin. The celebrate the death of ones you love speech went right over Anakin's head. The only Jedi capable of understanding Anakin's rationale, and therefore relating and getting getting through to Anakin, was Kenobi. And we know Palpatine conveniently kept Kenobi distracted elsewhere during his move. Palps knew Anakin was in the bag unless Kenobi intervened.

However, contrast the personalities of Yoda vs. Mace, I think Yoda would have held an emergency Council session to ponder the next move.


 

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LordVader66 
Registered: Aug '05
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Date Posted: 4/22 8:54pm Subject: RE: What would Yoda have done if Anakin had told him Palpatine was the Sith Lord? - Date Edited: 4/22 9:04pm (2 edits total) Edited By: LordVader66
If Mace had good relations with the Wookies and Yoda remained on Coruscant?

"Young Skywalker, come you must, in the Chancellor's Office, your destiny is"

Palpatine, seeing Anakin and Yoda, surrenders, is arrested, placed on trail and is aquitted of all charges, it may prolong Anakin's career as a Jedi, but it's not like Yoda for Mace isn't going to make Anakin bow down and become Vader. Really, you could argue that Anakin was signed, sealed and delivered as a Sith Lord when he heard the legend of Darth Plagueis.

 

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voodoopuuduu 
Registered: Mar '04
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Date Posted: 4/22 9:03pm Subject: RE: What would Yoda have done if Anakin had told him Palpatine was the Sith Lord?
Would Yoda have taken Anakin with him?


Yeah, I think Yoda would have taken Anakin with him. If for nothing else, to confirm the story in case Palps tried to lie his way out of it.

 

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JEDI-RISING 
Registered: Apr '05
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Date Posted: 4/22 9:07pm Subject: RE: What would Yoda have done if Anakin had told him Palpatine was the Sith Lord?
I think he may have taken Anakin with him. I also think he would have had greater sense of Anakin about to strike him, if he had tried to kill Sidious. However, i am not so sure he would have tried to kill Sidious. I think Yoda would have been more cautious.

 

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xx_Anakin_xx 
Registered: Jan '08
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Date Posted: 4/23 5:37am Subject: RE: What would Yoda have done if Anakin had told him Palpatine was the Sith Lord?
I think there were a lot of more sensible plots that could have occurred here. This is certainly one of them. Yoda and Anakin go to Palpy and arrest him would have been what happened in my judgment (Yoda was cautious and IF Anakin was the chosen one, he was wise enough to realize that Anakin would need to be there to fulfill his destiny if it came to that - and he would not be Vaapadly rash like Mace).

But we had to get to the OT and there while tons of things could have changed destiny, it was already written, filmed and in print, so none of these alternatives could happen. But yeah, logically Yoda going would have totally changed things, that is precisely why he wasn't chosen to go (by GL).

 

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Icestar63 
Registered: Nov '05
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Date Posted: 4/23 5:59am Subject: RE: What would Yoda have done if Anakin had told him Palpatine was the Sith Lord?
I think he would have told the other Jedi about if first, and I think he would have done it a lot diffrently then Mace did, In my opinion.

 

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rumsmuggler 
Registered: Aug '00
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Date Posted: 4/23 6:49am Subject: RE: What would Yoda have done if Anakin had told him Palpatine was the Sith Lord?
Yoda should bring a few senators along to watch from a distance( with holocams), just in case.

 

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Darth Sin 
Registered: Oct '99
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Date Posted: 4/23 10:07am Subject: RE: What would Yoda have done if Anakin had told him Palpatine was the Sith Lord?
These have been some excellent responses and many in my own line of thinking. Of course we cannot change things in the story, and this is not necessarily a "what if" thread but moreso to bring out something that has not really been discussed that often and that is the different personalities and ways of handling situations of the two primary leaders of the Jedi Council.

And so I felt the scenario where Mace goes to Palpatine's office to confront and arrest him was a good place to contrast the two. Something that I thought of from AOTC that Anakin said to Padme about Obi-Wan that helps bring to light more of Yoda and Mace's personalities and ways of doing things, at least from Anakin's perspective. When telling Padme of Obi-Wan and his influence on his life, he said of Obi-Wan, "He's as powerful as Master Windu and wise as Master Yoda"

So I think this statement by Anakin gives a pretty good clue as to even how others viewed Mace and Yoda. So going back to the subject of what would Yoda have possibly done in this situation, I do believe he would have been more cautious and used wisdom. Mace went the power and political pathway, Yoda for me would have went the way of wisdom and rationale. I think since Anakin told him about Palpatine, he would therefore have taken Anakin with him. Just imagine how this would have changed things in many, many ways. I also think that Yoda would have brought no other Jedi with him. This lessens the feeling of being threatened from Palpatine. I also don't think he would have just outright attacked Yoda either because Yoda would not have drawn his lightsaber first as Mace and company.

I think Yoda would have went in calmly and sarcastically said something like, "Young Skywalker has told he believes you to be the Sith Lord" I think that is all he would have said, and then Palpatine would start squirming and have to say something to either deny it or go after Yoda. I just do not think Yoda would have said anything about arresting him or anything that would have been taken as a threat or to overthrow him.

Also as others have said, I think Yoda would have been more sensitive to the Force and the moment to think that if Anakin is the Chosen One, if he is to destroy the Sith, and Palpatine is the Sith Lord, then he would use wisdom and caution to allow it to possibly playout without his interference to Anakin would not possibly become confused. I think if Yoda had been in this scenario and laid back wisely Anakin would have spilled the beans as to why he trusted Palpatine and thus Yoda would have then pulled back the deception. Mace simply was not sensitive or wise in regards to Anakin and so this helped to bring about the events that transpired with the Chsoen One turning to the dark side.

And by the way, I do agree that Obi-Wan would definitely have gotten through to him in this scenario as well.

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