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What would Yoda have done if Anakin had told him Palpatine was the Sith Lord?
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r8hitman
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Date Posted:
4/23 11:57am
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RE: What would Yoda have done if Anakin had told him Palpatine was the Sith Lord?
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Unfortunately I think it would have went down the same way. 
People seem to think that Mace is the only jedi that kept doing things in this saga that he shouldnt have, in all honesty Yoda did just as many stupid things as every other jedi.
Why would he be in so much of a rush that he would go to fight Sidious alone?
Why not take Obi-Wan with him and then go tackle Anakin together?
Why not contact a few other jedi and get together and plan to tackle Sidious as a team?
Mace and Yoda made damn near the same mistake.
At least Mace took a few other jedi with him, but Yoda just jumped up and went after him all on his own.  
Hell, it wouldnt have surprised me if Yoda would have even went in for the arrest on his own. 
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OBIWANARNO
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4/24 10:59am
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Yoda is the wisest Jedi I think he would simply have waited for Mace to return. I have never understood why he didn't wait to at least inform Yoda what happened. Then the two greatest Jedi and possibly Anakin and Kenobi would have calmly arrested Palpatine.
Anakin would never have struck Yoda down as I don't think Yoda would have contemplated killing Palpatine (partly because Anakin told him about his dream. Yoda knew exactly who he was referring to) and thus Anakin would never have interfered. The only reason Anakin did what he did was to be able to save Padmé. Yoda would have waited for Mace and then Palpatine would have had to act and attack Yoda etc. which was never a part of his plan. Palpatine arranged for Kenobi and Yoda to be away when all this happens for a reason - they would have been able to stop him (Yoda) in accomplishing his goal and Anakin (Kenobi) from turning to the dark side.
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mjerome3
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4/24 1:12pm
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Yoda would have handled the situation very differently than Mace did. Both Yoda and Mace handled Sidious on their own. Mace tried to place Sidious under arrest. Yoda tried to kill Sidious. Yoda would have forced Anakin to go into more detail. The outcome would have been different at that point in time. Yoda wouldn't have raised his lightsaber like Mace did. That was his undoing.
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DarthBoba
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I think Yoda might have potentially waited a trifle longer..he's 900 years old; what's a few more days to think things through? 
Yoda does seem to be the cautious part of the leadership circle, as compared to Mace. He only moves to kill Sidious when it's the only option remaining.
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SaberSlash
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4/24 5:57pm
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Let's not forget Palpatine's perspective. Even if Yoda came with just Anakin, I doubt Palpatine would let Yoda and Anakin arrest him. Anakin was in the bag at that point especially w/o Kenobi near.
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rumsmuggler
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True. Kenobi seems to be able to keep Anakin level.
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Darth_Davi
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What good would it have done? Wasn't Yoda on Kashyyyk at the time? Action needed to be taken immediately, and Mace was the senior Jedi on planet. Anakin reported the info to the highest Jedi available that could do anything about it. All Yoda would have done is tell Anakin to go tell Mace, since he was in a position to do something about it, while Yoda wasn't.
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Date Posted:
4/24 9:53pm
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SaberSlash posted:
Let's not forget Palpatine's perspective. Even if Yoda came with just Anakin, I doubt Palpatine would let Yoda and Anakin arrest him. Anakin was in the bag at that point especially w/o Kenobi near.
I think from Palpatines perspective, if he had sensed Anakin coming along with Yoda and Kenobi to arrest him, he would have beat it out of there. Or as is usually the case, go with a plan B. Palps always had a plan B (until ROTJ of course)
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Sidious69
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Date Posted:
4/25 9:09am
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Cause and effect.
This would never have happened. Sidious won't allow it.
Sidious is 3 steps ahead of everyone.
Him sending the Separatist to attack Kashyyk is a calculated move.
As the Chancellor, he deduced Yoda's close relations with the wookies.
Just as he deduced that if he suggests Anakin to go get Grevious, the council will send Obi-Wan to Utapau instead.
Just as he deduced the Council will allow Anakin to be part of the council so Ani could spy on him.
He knows he has to get rid of Obi-Wan and Yoda to finally set-up Anakin and frame the whole Jedi Order.
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r8hitman
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Date Posted:
4/25 1:42pm
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People seem to ignore the obvious.
Remember my last post on this issue:
r8hitman posted:
Unfortunately I think it would have went down the same way.
People seem to think that Mace is the only jedi that kept doing things in this saga that he shouldnt have, in all honesty Yoda did just as many stupid things as every other jedi.
Why would he (meaning Yoda) be in so much of a rush that he would go to fight Sidious alone(while a perfectly, capable Obi-Wan Kenobi is sitting right there to assist him)?
Why not take Obi-Wan with him and then go tackle Anakin together(or the emperor...but the key word here is TOGETHER.)?
Why not contact a few other jedi and get together and plan to tackle Sidious as a team?
Mace and Yoda made damn near the same mistake.
At least Mace took a few other jedi with him, but Yoda just jumped up and went after him (Sidious) all on his own.(when he went to destroy the emperor)
Hell, it wouldnt have surprised me if Yoda would have even went in for the arrest on his own.
See this isnt that hard to figure out....
Yoda turned around and did the EXACT SAME THING that you guys are criticizing Mace for doing:
Went after Sidious on his own. 
Think about it. 
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and to be honest with you, Yoda had more time on his hands than Mace did.
Mace IMMEDIATELY had to act because Anakin had just found out Sidious' secret, drew down on him with a lightsaber, and threatened to expose him.....Mace HAD to move quickly.
By the time Yoda found out was going on, he had plenty of time to gather up the remaining jedi (Obi included) and go to tackle Sidious or get together and regroup/hide (hell, order 66 had already been issued at this point).....Yoda's reaction was much more irresponsible/irrational than Windu's IMO.
Windu had a limited amount of time to act BEFORE Sidious could issue the order.....Yoda simply had to inform the other jedi (that were not in the temple or killed by their clones) and plan a counterattack....
Yoda already dropped the ball BIG TIME in the situation that he was in....
I hate to think what he might have done in Windu's situation. 
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SaberSlash
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Date Posted:
4/25 1:56pm
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Obiwan was the key for Palpatine. With him out of the way chasing Grievous, Palpatine knew that Anakin had his back if Anakin was forced to choose between light or dark, regardless if it were Yoda or Mace that came at him.
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r8hitman
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4/25 2:01pm
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I agree.
Yoda wouldnt have made a bit of difference.
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rumsmuggler
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4/25 2:18pm
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I also agree with that.
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JediCleric
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4/25 7:10pm
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There is no question to ask in this matter, as the answer has already been set before us to examine.
Yoda, like Mace, would have failed to see what needed to be seen.
Look at what we know about Yoda. Not to denegrate the character but he simply lacked vision. He possessed a vast amount of knowledge but he was figuratively blind. Some call him wise but that is not accurate as knowledge and wisdom are two different animals. Why so much of one (knowledge) but so little of the other (wisdom), there are a lot of choices: Darkside mind trick? Too long the top dog? Overconfidence? You decide the reason. But whatever its cause, Yoda knew no more about how to defeat Sidious prior to his death than he did at the time of RoTS.
In ESB Yoda sent Luke to kill Vader, thinking this would somehow spell the defeat of Sidious and his Empire. Erred thinking due to a lack of vision and understanding.
Had Yoda confronted Sidious instead of Mace, he would have done so with the same error filled thinking that remained with him until his final breath.
Yoda never believed or trusted in Anakin's destiny as the chosen one and for that he was made to pay a price. That price? The end of the Jedi Order as he knew it.
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Date Posted:
4/25 8:43pm
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Well that does raise an interesting question though...why didn't Yoda and Obi-Wan work together for a few years (like 3-5) after going in hiding and then go after the Emperor themselves?
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