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Jarren_Lee-Saber
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4/22 10:24am
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Anakin & Padme -More Intimacy?
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This may be controversal, but I always thought that Star Wars could have been even better if there was more intimacy between the lovers. Like, wouldn't it be nice if there was a artistic scene (either at the end of AOTC or the beggining of ROTS) of Padme & Anakin making out??? Something like the scene in "300" or "Cold Mountain". Just a thought. Comments?
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Vortigern99
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4/22 10:32am
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The problem is not a lack of intimate scenes between the lovers; it's with the fans' reactions to the scenes that already exist. The scene early in ROTS, when Padme tells Anakin of her pregnancy, is very close and intimate; and there are at least three scenes in AOTC (the wedding, the roll-in-the-grass and the kiss at the Arena) that bespeak their passion for one another. But many fans feel the two have no chemistry or that their relationship strains credibility, so these scenes are overlooked or dismissed. I for one don't think we need some kind of grope-and-slurp scene a la 300; we understand the two are in love, and in any case SW isn't about that kind of thing. It happens behind closed blast doors. 
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4/22 12:55pm
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Open the blast doors! Open the blast doors!
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DarthIshtar
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4/22 1:10pm
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I think the main problem is the lack of chemistry. I loved the beginning of ROTS because there WAS a wonderful intimacy and there are parts of ROTS where it's clear that the previous connection issues are not as prevalent, but they are just not very good together on screen. I think that's the script's fault, though.
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EmeraldBlade
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Yes.
The chemistry was the problem as the romance scenes made no sense.
Love doesn't always make sense you say?
Well actually, there are some basic laws (as in 'rules of thumb') of attraction.
The romance plot in the OT made perfect sense - I could really see it happen - but the PT scenes were too unbelievable.
Unless of course, Anakin was a superhuman lover. But that would have been a bit too revealing. Besides, Padme falls for him before they sleep together.
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iLoveAnakin7
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4/22 1:49pm
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It wouldn't have helped the love story. If the actors don't have chemistry, they don't have chemistry, and no amount of artistic scenes is going to help that. As it is, it seemed to me that Hayden was the only one even trying to do the romance scenes. Natalie seemed to come off as not giving a damn. The whole romance is forced -- and well it has to be because it has to be there for L&L to exist, not like with Han & Leia (that was a fun romance born of chemistry from the actors). I always wondered if Anakin/Padme would have turned out better had Keira Knightley been Padme instead. Oh well. Doesn't really matter. In my mind Padme is almost a moot point. Her real purpose becomes apparent in RotS -- a baby incubator never to be mentioned again. Sad.
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4/22 2:19pm
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Not more intimacy.
Better intimacy.
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Her real purpose becomes apparent in RotS -- a baby incubator never to be mentioned again. Sad.
I heartily disagree with that last point. In Padme, even at the point of death, resides the hope and conviction that there is still good in Anakin. This belief is born again within Luke and brought to fruition at the climax of the Saga. During her lifetime, Padme resisted the TF, resisted Palpatine's attempts to manipulate her, resisted the creation of the army, and helped to form the Rebellion in its early stages (see ROTS deleted scenes). She was far from some mere "baby incubator".
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iLoveAnakin7
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^I'm sorry that's just how *I* see her at the end of the day. I used to see her like you do before RotS. Not so much anymore. I wish the Rebellion scenes could have been left in, I might have more respect for her character. At the very least I wish she would have died because Anakin caused her injury that could not have been repaired. I try to look at her death from a symbolic POV and still falls a little flat for me, especially with two newborns right in front of her. Oh well, I'm off-topic now. 
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JEDI-RISING
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4/22 3:22pm
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It seems the romance in AOTC was not well received anyway. Personally i thought the chemistry was fine. Of course, GL wasn't going to go too far with the intimate stuff anyway.
I just wish some lighter scenes could have been in AOTC. It was a little too murky/dark. They should have jumped into the romance quicker, and then said "wait, we can't".
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DarthIshtar
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4/22 3:35pm
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It is a sad fact that her role in ROTS was to suck face with the bad guy, die of wangst in childbirth, have horribly cheesy dialogue and cry on cue. If they had left in the Rebellion scenes...yeah. Oh, and she delivers one-liners to die for.
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JEDI-RISING
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Yeah well as GL said, when he got to episode III he had the same problem as the first movie: too much stuff for one movie. He cut everything that wasn't Anakin-centered. I don't like putting in deleted scenes if they don't work, but for ROTS it would be interesting to see an expanded version.
AS for Padme, i kind of like her Senate scene they left out of AOTC. There's some drama to it, and she's pleading witht the senate not to create an army.
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Arawn_Fenn
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Not to mention Mas Amedda eats a bug.
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iLoveAnakin7
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4/22 5:27pm
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It's funny, the most natural Anakin/Padme scene IMO is in the deleted scenes on Naboo with her family, and in her room when she's talking to him. I did like those scenes and felt that they gave us more insight into her character.
It's too bad that GL felt he had to cut the movie time down. I would have been fine with RotS being 4 hours. And the deleted scenes would have shown Padme doing something besides moon over Anakin. Just because she was pregnant doesn't mean she had to sit around all day, which is what she did in RotS until Mustafar in which she put herself and her unborn children in danger.
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Arawn_Fenn
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I honestly think GL was afraid that people would walk out early, as they reportedly did in some instances for Return of the King.
Also, at 140 minutes ROTS is commensurate in length with the other films in the saga.
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JEDI-RISING
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I would have liked maybe just the first "Alliance" scene. It provides enough ground work.
I also like the deleted scene in AOTC where they go to Padme's house. Wish it was in the movie instead of the Queen Jamilla scene.
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