Author Topic: Question regarding Dooku
venereth 
Registered: May '08
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Date Posted: 5/1 1:15pm Subject: Question regarding Dooku
Hello all,

I'm new here and I'm sorry if this has been asked before.

Why is it that the novelization as well as the movie portray Dooku as surprised by his death at Anakin's hand?

As a Sith, wouldn't he be aware of the whole "Only two at any one time, a Master and an Apprentice"?

You would think that he would've seen Anakin as being groomed as his replacement that way Sidious talked about him.

Any thoughts?

 

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DarthBoba 
Registered: Jun '00
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Date Posted: 5/1 2:45pm Subject: RE: Question regarding Dooku
The novel makes it pretty clear Dooku thought he was going to be the Sith Master, with Palpatine running the show and Anakin being in charge of the "Sith Army" which was to be the rebuilt Jedi Order.

 

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venereth 
Registered: May '08
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Date Posted: 5/1 3:12pm Subject: RE: Question regarding Dooku - Date Edited: 5/1 3:13pm (1 edits total) Edited By: venereth
I never thought of it that way. Good point, thank you.

BTW, Buffy is my fav. show, lol.

 

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DarthBoba 
Registered: Jun '00
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Date Posted: 5/1 4:15pm Subject: RE: Question regarding Dooku
Take off your blinders. tongue

But yeah, basically Dooku was being stupid.

 

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DarthGimpy 
Registered: Nov '04
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Date Posted: 5/1 5:23pm Subject: RE: Question regarding Dooku
DarthBoba posted:
The novel makes it pretty clear Dooku thought he was going to be the Sith Master, with Palpatine running the show and Anakin being in charge of the "Sith Army" which was to be the rebuilt Jedi Order.


I can't come up with a better idea myself, but when I read about this Sith Army stuff I thought it sounded unrealistic and lame. One would think Palpatine would have to come up with a better lure than that to fool Dooku into blindly walking to his death, as I would think that someone with only half a brain would think this whole idea of "Hey we can have 3 Sith, we'll form a big ol Sith army, it'll be great, no tension at all" is kind of shady.

Of course they had to come up with something, and I can't think of a better way to fulfill this plot point, but I don't think it really works.

 

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DarkStarkiller 
Registered: Jul '07
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Date Posted: 5/1 5:51pm Subject: RE: Question regarding Dooku
The look on Dooku's face when he relazes he was being played the whole time is priceless.

"Kill him now"
"I helped you rise to power in the Clone Wars, and this is how you repay me?!"

 

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SaberSlash 
Registered: Apr '08
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Date Posted: 5/1 5:57pm Subject: RE: Question regarding Dooku
I always thought (from the films) Dooku was in the dark when it came to the strong relationship between Palpatine and Anakin. Just as Palpatine said in ROTJ to Luke, paraphasing "young fool, not only at the end do you truly see...." Dooku was blinded by his own personnal ambition. It was not until the end, that he recognized that he was played a chess piece.

 

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Icestar63 
Registered: Nov '05
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Date Posted: 5/1 6:56pm Subject: RE: Question regarding Dooku
I can't beleive Dooku fell for Palpatine's lie.

 

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Lumiyas_Head 
Registered: Jul '07
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Date Posted: 5/1 9:13pm Subject: RE: Question regarding Dooku
Treachery is the way of the Sith.

 

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Thrawn1786 
Registered: Feb '04
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Date Posted: 5/1 9:55pm Subject: RE: Question regarding Dooku
Lumiyas_Head posted:
Treachery is the way of the Sith.


In addition to having good tailors. The Sith seem to be snappy dressers. tongue

 

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rumsmuggler 
Registered: Aug '00
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Date Posted: 5/2 9:51am Subject: RE: Question regarding Dooku - Date Edited: 5/2 9:52am (1 edits total) Edited By: rumsmuggler
Thrawn1786 posted:
Lumiyas_Head posted:
Treachery is the way of the Sith.


In addition to having good tailors. The Sith seem to be snappy dressers. tongue



Having fashion sense is one of the many paths to the darkside.

 

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_Sublime_Skywalker_ 
Registered: May '04
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Date Posted: 5/2 12:07pm Subject: RE: Question regarding Dooku
Well, did we ever truly get a clear answer if Dooku knew Sidious= Palpataine? I've read so much EU, but I can't recall any for the life of me right now.

What I do recall from the books I've read is Dooku's suspicions of Anakin, and his jelousy. He knew that the boy was promising and that Sidious took a great interest in him. What I remember about the scene is that Dooku was promised no harm would come to him, this was just an excersize and test for Anakin. IIRC, Palpataine told Dooku that if Anakin defeated him in combat, he'd tell him just to capture him, and if Anakin was defeated then he was not worthy.

 

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rumsmuggler 
Registered: Aug '00
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Date Posted: 5/2 12:59pm Subject: RE: Question regarding Dooku
Yeah, he knew. That's he gave Palps that what the frak look when he told Anakin to kill him.

 

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DarthBoba 
Registered: Jun '00
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Date Posted: 5/2 1:10pm Subject: RE: Question regarding Dooku
Yes, Dooku knew Palpatine=Sidious. He was the only other person-besides Sidious, of course-who knew the entire plot.

 

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Dark_Jedi_Kenobi 
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Registered: Oct '04
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Date Posted: 5/2 1:34pm Subject: RE: Question regarding Dooku
If other EU wasn't definitive, there is a conversation between Dooku and Palpatine aboard the Invisible Hand prior to the duel in the ROTS novel that confirms that Dooku knew.

 

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EmeraldBlade 
Registered: Apr '08
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Date Posted: 5/2 3:44pm Subject: RE: Question regarding Dooku - Date Edited: 5/2 3:44pm (1 edits total) Edited By: EmeraldBlade
To amplify DarthBoba's point, Dooku believed that he was the Chosen One.

At least, it is strongly hinted at.

 

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