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Dark_Jedi_Kenobi  6781 posts
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Date Posted: 5/3 12:04pm Subject: RE: Question regarding Dooku
What makes you say that? I didn't get that sense at all from any of the films or even the novels.

 

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sith_rising  2512 posts
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Date Posted: 5/3 2:49pm Subject: RE: Question regarding Dooku - Date Edited: 5/3 2:51pm (1 edits total) Edited By: sith_rising
The films give the impression that Dooku is indifferent to Anakin in AOTC, but Anakin earns a healthy respect from Dooku after their duel. In ROTS, Dooku seems to be pushing Anakin, rather than trying to kill him. Seems like he's interested in turning Anakin, since Obi-Wan declined his AOTC offer. But whether or not the Sith believe in the "Chosen One" prophecy isn't clear in the films. After all, why would they want the Chosen One to succeed in destroying the Sith and brining balance? After all, after a thousand years of waiting, the Sith have only been able to infiltrate the highter eschelons of the Republic because the Force is out of balance and the Jedi are essentially impotent against sensing them. Seems like fulfilling the prophecy would be the last thing the Sith would want. If Sidious suspected Anakin was the Chosen One, he would have probably had Anakin killed shortly after TPM.

 

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MasterAnders  204 posts
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Date Posted: 5/4 11:24am Subject: RE: Question regarding Dooku
All Dooku did was fighting for his life! Dooku was taken down by brute force and skills, and it was nothing he could have done.

 

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DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR  399 posts
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Date Posted: 5/7 6:51pm Subject: RE: Question regarding Dooku
what is Dooku's first name?

 

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Malikail  2530 posts
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Date Posted: 5/7 10:46pm Subject: RE: Question regarding Dooku - Date Edited: 5/7 10:46pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Malikail
DarthBoba is dead on correct.

I look at it this way. The current Sith Lord is the chancelor of the republic and they are about to wipe out the Jedi, heck Sidious probably told Dooku after Anakin converts they are going to end the war and kill the Jedi.

Once the Jedi are dead the need for the rule of 2 would easily be forgotten since it's purpose was to make sure the Sith survived.

Dooku may know of the rule but i doubt Sidious told him exactly how and why it was implemented, I can see Dooku being easily convinced it was part of the Sith plan of survival and wholly unnecessary after they have finished conquering the republic that they rule already.

And yes Dooku was a fool, he helped his master recruit his replacement and did a very good job of it! applause

 

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venereth 
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Date Posted: 5/8 4:08am Subject: RE: Question regarding Dooku
Wow, very insightful replies, folks. Thanks for answering so well. As far as Dooku's first name, I did a bit of research and turned up Nada.

 

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_Sublime_Skywalker_  2487 posts
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Date Posted: 5/8 10:12am Subject: RE: Question regarding Dooku
I think it might have been mentioned in Dark Rendevous which focused alot on Dooku's time as a Jedi and as "royalty". I can't remember exactly, I read it much earlier this year..

Did you try the databank on SW.com?

 

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KnightDawg  536 posts
Registered: Nov '07
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Date Posted: 5/8 1:32pm Subject: RE: Question regarding Dooku
venereth posted:
Hello all,

I'm new here and I'm sorry if this has been asked before.

Why is it that the novelization as well as the movie portray Dooku as surprised by his death at Anakin's hand?

As a Sith, wouldn't he be aware of the whole "Only two at any one time, a Master and an Apprentice"?

You would think that he would've seen Anakin as being groomed as his replacement that way Sidious talked about him.

Any thoughts?


Darth Tyranus never really feared Anakin Skywalker and didn't think very highly of him. Prior to their trap, Tyranus tried to convince Sidious that they should convert Obi-Wan instead. Sidious also told him that he would jump in and assist if it looked like Obi-Wan and Anakin would win. Up to this point in time, Sidious never deceived him. As far as the whole "Rule of Two" goes along....well, they also had Asajj Ventress working for them as well. Why not add another. Darth Tyranus also worked with Sora Bulq and Quinlan Vos. Darth Sidious already proved that he never really cared for that rule as he created the Hand (Mara Jade and Lumiya), he had force-sensitive Royal Guards, he had Cronal and the rest of the Prophets of the Darkside, and Jerec and the Inquisitorius. Taking this all into consideration, once Anakin had Dooku at his mercey...of course he gave Sidious a surprised look when Sidious ordered Anakin to kill him.

 

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Nichtganz  362 posts
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Date Posted: 5/8 2:04pm Subject: RE: Question regarding Dooku
MasterAnders posted:
All Dooku did was fighting for his life! Dooku was taken down by brute force and skills, and it was nothing he could have done.


what the **** are you talking about, dooku was cake walking the duo, in the end he was toying with anakin, and the only reason why he didnt kill him outright is because he thought Anakin was the chosen one.

 

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DarthBoba  28046 posts
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Date Posted: 5/8 2:40pm Subject: RE: Question regarding Dooku
^Wrong tongue

Read the novel; Dooku was getting owned.

 

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Nichtganz  362 posts
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Date Posted: 5/8 3:41pm Subject: RE: Question regarding Dooku
In this one case you are wrong, the movie is better then the novel. The Novel is fanon. you cant take something canon, and have some asshat write a book based on it and expect it to be canon, or anything worth mentioning.

The Novel never happened.

 

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sith_rising  2512 posts
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Date Posted: 5/8 3:57pm Subject: RE: Question regarding Dooku - Date Edited: 5/8 3:58pm (2 edits total) Edited By: sith_rising
I don't know what the novel said, but if you're really getting owned you don't taunt your opponent and ask him to fight harder. Dooku could have killed Anakin at any point up to losing his hands, but I agree that Anakin layed it on thicker that Dooku had anticipated. Right at the very end, Dooku was outmatched. But had Dooku went into that duel planning to kill Anakin as quickly as possible, he would have.

 

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Nichtganz  362 posts
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Date Posted: 5/8 4:19pm Subject: RE: Question regarding Dooku
unless of course he believed he would be able to turn him. which was most likely the case.

 

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SaberSlash 
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Date Posted: 5/8 5:25pm Subject: RE: Question regarding Dooku
I interpreted the scene that Dooku was holding his own and then some. Dooku had Obiwan's number; Dooku was fighting the same fight against Anakin that he did in AOTC and he was carefully waiting for Anakin's impatience to lead to a mistake like it did before. Once he started taunting him, Dooku was caught totally offguard by Anakin's raw power and overwhelmed. Overconfidence is a weakness of the Sith and Dooku suffered for it.

 

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KnightDawg  536 posts
Registered: Nov '07
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Date Posted: 5/8 5:26pm Subject: RE: Question regarding Dooku
Nichtganz posted:
The Novel is fanon.


Wow...where on Earth did you get that conclusion from? lol

According to Leland Chee (who is hired by Lucas Licensing to keep track of stuff like this), SW Novels, movies, video games, and etc. are CANON.

"C-canon is Continuity Canon, consisting of all recent works (and many older works) released under the name of Star Wars: books, comics, games, cartoons, non-theatrical films, and more. Games are a special case, as generally only the stories are C-canon, while things like stats and gameplay may not be; they also offer non-canonical options to the player, such as choosing female gender for a canonically male character. C-canon elements have been known to appear in the movies, thus making them G-canon; examples include the name "Coruscant," swoop bikes, Quinlan Vos, Aayla Secura, YT-2400 freighters and Action VI transports"

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Leland_Chee


 

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