Dark_Jedi_Kenobi posted:

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What makes you say that? I didn't get that sense at all from any of the films or even the novels.

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KnightDawg posted:

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Nichtganz posted:

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The Novel is fanon.

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Wow...where on Earth did you get that conclusion from? lol

According to Leland Chee (who is hired by Lucas Licensing to keep track of stuff like this), SW Novels, movies, video games, and etc. are CANON.

"C-canon is Continuity Canon, consisting of all recent works (and many older works) released under the name of Star Wars: books, comics, games, cartoons, non-theatrical films, and more. Games are a special case, as generally only the stories are C-canon, while things like stats and gameplay may not be; they also offer non-canonical options to the player, such as choosing female gender for a canonically male character. C-canon elements have been known to appear in the movies, thus making them G-canon; examples include the name "Coruscant," swoop bikes, Quinlan Vos, Aayla Secura, YT-2400 freighters and Action VI transports"

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Leland_Chee

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Phantom_Menace posted:

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I think he was surprised because 1: He didn't expect to lose and 2: He thought he had a deal with Sidious.

Regarding the Novel vs Film of that fight I have always thought that they didn't jive well. In the novel Dooku is portrayed as being totaly outmatched by Kenobi and Skywalker. In the film it appears that Dooku is still far superior to both of them and can duel them at once. Only when the Chosen One dips into the Darkside is he able to overcome an over confident Tyranus.

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Alpha-Red posted:

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Nobody mentions Dark Rendezvous and how Dooku practically KNEW he was going to be betrayed sooner or later but ended up choosing the dark path anyway?

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Arawn_Fenn posted:

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Phantom_Menace posted:

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I think he was surprised because 1: He didn't expect to lose and 2: He thought he had a deal with Sidious.

Regarding the Novel vs Film of that fight I have always thought that they didn't jive well. In the novel Dooku is portrayed as being totaly outmatched by Kenobi and Skywalker. In the film it appears that Dooku is still far superior to both of them and can duel them at once. Only when the Chosen One dips into the Darkside is he able to overcome an over confident Tyranus.

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What I see in the film ( and I don't recall it being portrayed in the novel ) is that Anakin fights dirty.

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_Sublime_Skywalker_ posted:

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Yep, In DR he had his doubts about the darkside and Yoda sensed conflict within him. Although, he had too much pride to return to the Jedi he knew he'd be betrayed eventually by the sith.

But he made his bed, and he lay in it. Ventress put thoughts in his head that once turning to the darkside, you are never truly forgiven by the Jedi. Dooku had a close relationship to Yoda though, and thats why he requested he come to speak to him.

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rumsmuggler posted:

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Arawn_Fenn posted:

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Phantom_Menace posted:

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I think he was surprised because 1: He didn't expect to lose and 2: He thought he had a deal with Sidious.

Regarding the Novel vs Film of that fight I have always thought that they didn't jive well. In the novel Dooku is portrayed as being totaly outmatched by Kenobi and Skywalker. In the film it appears that Dooku is still far superior to both of them and can duel them at once. Only when the Chosen One dips into the Darkside is he able to overcome an over confident Tyranus.

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What I see in the film ( and I don't recall it being portrayed in the novel ) is that Anakin fights dirty.

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How exactly was he fighting dirty?

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