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Yautja
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Date Posted:
5/7 7:07pm
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Darth Maul vs. Darth Tyranus
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If both of these Sith Lords fought each other, who would have won?
Strilo edit: Locked so we can use the new Who Would Win thread for this in the future.
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DarkStarkiller
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5/7 7:34pm
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I'd be rooting for Maul, but something tells me Dooku would pull a fast one and win
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xx_Anakin_xx
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Maybe Darth Maul...but it could go either way.
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DarthDuckie
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5/7 7:39pm
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I think Tyranus would conquer Maul mentally. He'd soak up all the fancy moves and when Maul started to get frustrated and made a foolish move, he'd take him down. Hmm, why does that sound familiar?
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Darth_Davi
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5/7 7:59pm
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^^^agreed. Plus, something must be said about training here. Neither Qui-Gon Jinn or Obi-Wan Kenobi had ever faced a Sith Lord before, were not used to their lightsaber styles, and were more or less completely unprepared. Yet, Maul still loses to a mere Padawan. Since this is Darth Tyranus, who is not only one of the most accomplished duelists in the entire history of the Jedi Order, but has specifically received training in Sith lightsaber techniques, and would thus be far better prepared for any Sith tricks Maul might throw at him. Simply put, Dooku/Tyranus would probably own Darth Maul.
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sith_rising
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5/7 8:11pm
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Darth Maul is a far superior fighter, but Tyranus is vastly more experienced and knowledgable in matters of the Force. It could go either way. Maul lost to a Padawan, but Tyranus fell for a simple trick any novice Padawan should have seen coming, showing that lightning and Force skills can be quickly and soundly defeated by technique and aggression. Nothing is a certain in these "vs" threads.
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_Sublime_Skywalker_
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Both are well trained with a lightsaber. Maul didn't look like he'd be as skilled within force powers as Dooku would be.
I'd want Maul to win, but I know Dooku would. Though Maul is fierce, Dooku is strategic.
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Yautja
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Not to mention Dooku was the master of Qui Gon if I'm not mistaken. But since I love Maul more, I'll root for him but a really evened up match. Dooku got strategy, but I doubt he can match Maul's aggression and fighting skill. Still Maul's most likely going to screw up and Dooku will have an opening...
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Lumiyas_Head
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My first thought was Dooku all the way. However, when I think of how fast Anakin defeated him after unleashing his anger makes me think otherwise. Darth Maul was an angry, fierce, and passionate warrior while Dooku was precise, calculating, and patient. However, Chosen One or not, a few angry lightsaber moves by Anakin ended the Count's life in a few seconds. Faced with an opponent as fierce as Darth Maul, I would like to see how Tyranus would have adapted against someone who naturally used the Dark Side instead of Jedi bound to the Light. So, Maul vs Tyranus...its fair game IMO.
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Malikail
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5/7 10:32pm
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i can only go on movies and the cartoons, i have yet to read a book but someday maybe...
anyway I agree with the thoughts on Maul above, the words i'd use to describe him "fierce" and "aggressive"; but i also agree inexperienced is a fair comment.
I have trouble with only 2 sequences in all of star wars to the point where i have to "understand" something that is not on screen, namely the scenes where Anakin fights Dooku, and the attempt to turn Luke in RotJ.
What i have had to understand is that Vader was not planning to win that fight, he was planning to lose to Luke after Luke unleashed his anger and it worked. The plan is understood by the Sith apprentice that he is not to be killed, the master should tell the potential apprentice to hold and not kill them. Of course Sidious betrays his apprentices in this way.
With this understanding in mind Dooku's rather quick defeat to Anakin is not so shocking. I'm quite sure Anakin would win anyway but once Dooku got him to release his hate Dooku stoped backing off, and stopped using the dueling techniques that would have stretched the fight and maybe given him a chance. Instead he stands toe to toe with Anakin, foolish as it turned out.
I am still struck that Dooku is a more powerful and much more polished force user than Maul, so much so that i don't think Maul at the age he died would have much of a chance in this fight.
If maul lives to be Dooku's age and experience it's a whole different fight but at the time of TPM i think this fight would involve Maul bouncing off of a lot of walls, and a lot of stuff flying at him till he was an easy kill.
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_Sublime_Skywalker_
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Lumiyas_Head posted:
My first thought was Dooku all the way. However, when I think of how fast Anakin defeated him after unleashing his anger makes me think otherwise. Darth Maul was an angry, fierce, and passionate warrior while Dooku was precise, calculating, and patient. However, Chosen One or not, a few angry lightsaber moves by Anakin ended the Count's life in a few seconds. Faced with an opponent as fierce as Darth Maul, I would like to see how Tyranus would have adapted against someone who naturally used the Dark Side instead of Jedi bound to the Light. So, Maul vs Tyranus...its fair game IMO.
But Dooku trained Grievous. He may not have had the force, but he was also a fierce warrior... um...when he wasn't running away coughing and stuff. But whenever it was shown Dooku training him, Grievous is slashing in all directions and Dooku was easily blocking them while still explaining things. Dooku was known as a master swordsman and he probably had a connection with his lightsaber that Maul would never know.
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sith_rising
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Date Posted:
5/8 4:03pm
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RE: Darth Maul vs. Darth Tyranus
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I don't know, I don't think anyone in the GFFA had a closer connection to their weapon that Darth Maul. And Dooku's lightsaber, a gentlemanly weapon designed for one-handed parrying and thrusting, isn't a very good weapon for fighting Maul's double-edged staff, which is designed for delivering powerful diagonal cuts in quick succession.
Of course, Dooku, being very precise and experienced, could target the wrists or exposed hilt, split it in half, and start with the lightning or choking. Either way, it would be great to see.
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Darth_Davi
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5/8 5:25pm
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If Tyranus can deflect General Grievous's 4 lightsabers with one hand, with ease, one doublebladed saber isn't going to confuse him at all. IE, Tyranus, through long years of experience, first as the foremost Jedi swordsman, and then the Sith techniques he learned under Sidious, is quite simply, a superior duelist, and a gimmick like a doublebladed saber isn't going to bother him. Further, I not only agree with your options about what Tyranus could do, I suggest he would be quick to use them. Tyranus is extremely clever, quick-witted, very capable of thinking quickly and taking advantage. He strikes me as the kind of guy that if he saw the doublebladed saber as an advantage for Maul, he would quickly come up with a method to try to rob him of that advantage, rather than let Maul keep it and let the cards fall where they lay...
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Lumiyas_Head
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Date Posted:
5/8 5:30pm
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Like I said, it would be next to impossible to determine a winner in a Maul vs Tyranus duel. Each opponent has their own special strengths to unleash and their own weaknesses that can be exploited. Duels in Star Wars have always been difficult to determine. Sheer ferocity or being a master swordsman isn't always a guaranteed win. It doesn't matter how experienced you are, something can always happen that can throw a wrench into your plans.
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rumsmuggler
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Grevious isn't a force user, so Tyranus would have a harder time fighting Maul than he would his cyborg pet.
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DarthDuckie
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There's for and against both, but Kenobi took care of Maul as a padawan and Dooku seemd to have Kenobi well bested even when he was one of the top masters of the Jedi order.
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