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Icestar63
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Nov '05
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Date Posted:
5/13 10:23am
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rumsmuggler posted:
Where is the proof that Dooku is more powerful than Maul? The lack of lightning from Maul doesn't mean much to me, since there isn't anything proving or disproving whether he could do it or not.
I am not sure if there is proof, what I posted is just my opinion. 
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rumsmuggler
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Date Posted:
5/13 12:25pm
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Icestar63 posted:
rumsmuggler posted:
Where is the proof that Dooku is more powerful than Maul? The lack of lightning from Maul doesn't mean much to me, since there isn't anything proving or disproving whether he could do it or not.
I am not sure if there is proof, what I posted is just my opinion.
No worries bud. Your post just inspired me to write that.
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DarthDuckie
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Date Posted:
5/13 12:54pm
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Sidious69 posted:
I think there's no contradictions on all the lightsaber duels.
I think Obi-Wan grew in power after his duel with Grievous and his battle with Order 66.
And he was on most part on the defense vs. young Vader.
And he also has experience over young Vader and knew more about Anakin than Dooku does.
Obi-Wan was at his prime at the ending of ROTS and I think he could have beat Tyranus on that moment.
And Luke defeated MECHANCAL Vader which everyone on the PT could. There's no way ROTJ Luke could have beaten YOUNG Vader, Tyranus, or Maul.
Not contradictions in the sense that it was wrong that they happened as they did, but certainly in terms of the outcomes, there is a break of pattern. Obiwan was easily bested by Dooku, twice, but overcame fully fit Vader. Yes, he knew vader inside out, but you could say the same in reverse. If Obiwan was to defeat Dooku by the end of ROTS he would have to improve a lot in the course of that film.
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darth_gersh
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Tyranus, he was was way more powerful with the force. Lightsaber they were maybe even.
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EmeraldBlade
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As for the "coolness" factor that is being brought up, I do not think that Maul is Cool.
Dooku has a higher "coolness" factor to my eyes.
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Nichtganz
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EmeraldBlade posted:
As for the "coolness" factor that is being brought up, I do not think that Maul is Cool.
Dooku has a higher "coolness" factor to my eyes.
I see with have a Miraluka on the forum.
Also keep in mind while their lightsaber skills may be even, maul is still just an apprentice, a EP3 maul would be devestating.
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DarthDuckie
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The arrogance and contempt that he demonstrated against Kenobi made it unlikely that Maul would ever make it that far. If Kenobi hadn't capitalised on it, someone likely would have.
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EmeraldBlade
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Nichtganz posted:
EmeraldBlade posted:
As for the "coolness" factor that is being brought up, I do not think that Maul is Cool.
Dooku has a higher "coolness" factor to my eyes.
I see with have a Miraluka on the forum.
See my initial post on the part I deleted.
As for Maul being cool, he is not. He does not do or say anything that is especially impressive, and his style looks very defensive.
Dooku on the other hand looks more comfortable fighting.
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Darth_Davi
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Considering the Miraluka, despite being blind (which, is I suspect what Nichtganz was trying to insult you with) were quite capable of seeing everything in the Force, even to the point that they could detect the Force aura that surrounded someone, it could be argued that being a Miraluka would enable you to BETTER read which Sith lord was stronger in the Force, and you got paid an unintentional compliment...
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Dark_Jedi_Kenobi
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5/13 7:31pm
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Maul was, for lack of a better word, an animal. His only purpose was to fight and to kill and he was exceptionally good at it. Dooku on the other hand was a gentleman. A man who had a great command over the force and himself. The real reason Maul was killed by Obi-Wan was his arrogance and his need to gloat over the body of his "fallen" enemy. Dooku on the other hand kept his emotions in check. If there was a fight between them I think Dooku would eventually prevail as the victor for those reasons. However that's not to say that Maul would not be a worthy challenger.
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sith_rising
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5/13 8:16pm
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Dooku's coolness and composure didn't save him any more than Maul's ferocity and aggressiveness could save Maul. Maul thought too little of his opponent, Dooku thought too highly of himself. Different Sith, same flaws.
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DarthDuckie
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True. I think Maul's weakness was more pronounced though. Dooku certainly rated himself, but I doubt he'd open himself up to defeat by a weaker opponent in the way that Maul did when he started strutting around and whacking things with his lightsabre after he had Kenobi well and truly beaten.
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sith_rising
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5/13 9:12pm
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Dooku was foolish enough to ask Anakin to attack him harder, which is not the best thing to do in combat. He may have been pushing Anakin to test his abilities, but did he really think Anakin wouldn't give everything, and would kill him if given the opportunity? Did Dooku forget that he'd cut off Anakin's arm? Come on. Goading him wasn't the brightest idea. I can just see him locking sabers with Maul and trying that.
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DarthDuckie
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5/13 9:27pm
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I've always thought that Dooku thought that he was involved in some kind of scheme with Sidious at the time of that fight and that he was genuinely surprised at the end when Sidious allowed, in fact told, Anakin to kill him. He certainly contributed to his own downfall through having too much self belief, and obviously had no idea of how much power Anakin did have, but I think he was to a large extent undone by his faith in Sidious and his relationship with him. I think he believed Anakin to be the pawn, when it was in fact him. After many watchings, I'm still not exactly sure what's going on between Dooku and Sidious at that time. The interpretation of the novel makes it all the more interesting.
Anyway, it's a fair point you make about the similarities.
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sabarte
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Eh, I don't know. If Maul had Kenobi beaten in TPM, Dooku had Anakin beaten in ROTS. He threw Skywalker into a wall long enough to take him out of the fight for ten seconds -while- slapping down Kenobi at the same time with the Force. If he'd just held Kenobi and gone for the kill on Skywalker, he'd have carried the fight. His orders were otherwise, though.
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