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Nichtganz
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Jul '07
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Date Posted:
5/13 9:41pm
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RE: Darth Maul vs. Darth Tyranus
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It's also about Fear, Maul was never afraid, a true sith marauder, ready to unleash hell's fury at any given moment. To put it simply Dooku would be overwelmed, as was the Duo in the first movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZE1UM6xpjM
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DarthDuckie
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Date Posted:
5/13 9:43pm
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Until one of the overwhelmed duo cut Maul in half...
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sith_rising
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Are you forgetting that Dooku himself ended up in four pieces? And not out of luck, like in the Kenobi/Maul encounter, but because he flat-out wasn't fast enough or skilled enough to keep up with his younger, more skilled and overly-aggressive opponent.
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Jarren_Lee-Saber
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5/14 6:50am
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While I personally like to think that Darth Maul is the more powerful one, I also think that the arguments against him are a little too strong. The fact that Obi-Wan beat him while Dooku beat Obi-wan twice & Anakin once, shows that Dooku had the greater power, even though he looks like a no-dough. Also here's something to chew on: If you've read the Darth Bane & Darth Maul books, you'll notice the similarity between Maul & what in Darth Bane is calle dthe Assassins. They are extremely skilled in stealth & assassinations & fighting, but they were never allowed to be full blown Sith Lords. This is very much like Darth Maul, though he is a Sith Lord (due to the rule of two), he doesn't seem to have much use besides hunting & killing. Also, if you see the amount of failures that Maul makes during Shadow Hunter & Episode 1, you almost think that Sideous deleberately sent him off to Naboo to the Jedi to "honorably" get rid of the guy, since he had outlasted his usefulness. Just my opinion.
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EmeraldBlade
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5/14 7:26am
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Nichtganz posted:
It's also about Fear, Maul was never afraid, a true sith marauder, ready to unleash hell's fury at any given moment. To put it simply Dooku would be overwelmed, as was the Duo in the first movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZE1UM6xpjM
He certainly was not afraid of being cut in two.
But that was not a good thing.
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EECHUUTA
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I wonder if the arguments against Darth Maul are not taking into consideration that Darth Maul is (or was,  ) still an Apprentice. Dooku may be a somewhat beginner Sith Lord, but he is already a Jedi Master. Plus he's at least 40 years older then Maul, and has had to train a Padawan(s) already, and that would give him yet more experiance, because he would've had to refine his own skills to be able to teach someone else. He might be better and more experianced, but only because he had been around a lot longer.
A lot of people would say, "Maul made a fatal error in fighting, he must not have been very good." But he still almost killed Kenobi. Sidious made a fatal error in thinking he knew Anakin well enough. But he was good enough at knowing enough about people to hoodwink the galaxy and Senate for a great number of years and rise to become Emperor. One mistake doesnt mean a person is poor at something, but it does mean they can still make mistakes.
If Maul was allowed to survive that encounter with Kenobi and had to fight him again in the future, I doubt he would make his mistake again. If he does, he is an idiot.
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Nichtganz
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Maul was ACCIDENTLY CUT IN TWO. He cake walked both of them, it was like Pie for him. It's like watching a james bond movie.
Maul: MUHAAHAHAHHHAHAHAH I PWND U AND UR MASTER, NOW I TAUNT YOUZ AND UR PATHETIC CORPSE
BOND: NOES, OH WAITS THE LIGHTZABER
BOND: MUAHAHHA I HAXXED U.
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Eternity85
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5/14 8:57am
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Its very obvious that Dooku is more powerful than Maul. But that does not mean that Maul cant defeat him. Just look at Kenobi vs Skywalker, the more powerful doesnt always win..
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EmeraldBlade
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5/14 10:17am
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Nichtganz posted:
Maul was ACCIDENTLY CUT IN TWO. He cake walked both of them, it was like Pie for him. It's like watching a james bond movie.
Granted.
I think it is silly to start claiming that so and so definitely beats so and so in a fantasy match up.
People have different opinions and I believe that there is a "versus" thread somewhere.
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sabarte
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5/14 10:35am
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sith_rising posted:
Are you forgetting that Dooku himself ended up in four pieces? And not out of luck, like in the Kenobi/Maul encounter, but because he flat-out wasn't fast enough or skilled enough to keep up with his younger, more skilled and overly-aggressive opponent.
Yeah, but I don't think Maul could keep up with a dark-side tapping suitless Skywalker either 
If Dooku wasn't on Palpatine's orders, I think he very well could have taken the fight. Would he have done so 100% or even 90% of the time? Heck no. Fights don't work like that. But if he's allowed to take out Skywalker first and not waste power slapping down Kenobi to fuel Skywalker's anger, Kenobi would be trivial because Dooku vs. Kenobi really does only end one way and they both know it
What I'm saying is, if Maul had been forbidden from killing or disabling Qui-Gon in TPM, it'd be a completely different fight.
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MasterAnders
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5/14 12:31pm
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Darth Maul is nothing compared to Dooku! Padawan Obi Wan did actually quite well against Maul in the final seconds of the fight. Toe to toe maul was problably a bit better, but if he where up against ROTS top Jedi/Sith he would have get owned badly! And that includes ROTS Obi Wan.
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DarthDuckie
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5/14 12:59pm
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Granted, Dooku was in the end out-and-out overwhelmed by Anakin. He thought he was in control, but he lost control to a superior opponent in the end. But that whole situation was being manipulated by Sidious. The camera cuts to him and makes it clear that he's doing so. Because of this, it's difficult to compare Dooku's taunting of Anakin and arrogance with that of Maul, who was just big noting at the end against Kenobi. Impossible to say for sure, but i still believe that Dooku would have the edge over maul mentally, and in a straight out fight, without outside influences, would use that effectively against someone like Maul.
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