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TPM fans: How easy is it for you to "shut out" the negativity?
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drg4
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Jul '05
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6/3 10:22pm
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RE: TPM fans: How easy is it for you to "shut out" the negativity?
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battlewars posted:
Arawn_Fenn posted:
battlewars posted:
BTW I HATED TPM even though I saw it 20 times in the theater.
Well, that's odd.
It took me that long to get used to the awfulness and accept it.
Are you serious? I wouldn't see a movie twenty times if my sister had top billing.
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Darthbane2007
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6/4 5:06am
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It's very easy for me to shout the negativity.
If you ask me, TPM is/was the best movie from the prequel trilogy. Everything was pristine, and new. Star Wars needed that, since it was 16 years since a SW movie was in theaters ( not counting the Special Editions).
I love the fact that JarJar Binks is in the movie, I don't have a problem with him. He was funny, likeable to me, and was a good character overall. I loved the Jedi Order, although we only saw Qui-Gon Jinn, Obi-Wan Kenobi, and the Jedi Council, and Anakin. This was when they were in their prime. I loved the podracing sequence; made me wish I had a Podracer. And the Lightsaber duel at the end, action packed, suspenceful music, etc..
To the people who think negative: That's them. I don't fault them for not liking the film; they saw it, didn't like it, and they thought George could do better.
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SHAD0W-JEDI
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6/4 6:13am
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I won't repeat my recent long-winded post in another Thread here - about Prequel Inspired GL "Bashing" .... but I think TPM suffers, mostly, because the image it presents was at variance with the expectations held by many SW fans.
I think that future fans, watching TPM cold, with NO expectations, just "discovering" it, will generally enjoy it. For them, it will be all about what is on screen, and not about what it "should" have been, what it "could" have been, and so forth.
Does that make TPM flawless? Hardly. But if that is the standard, there aren't too many films that are going to pass muster.
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Strilo
Title: PT Manager
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6/4 8:07am
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Shad0w that's nice and all, but it's not really on topic for this thread. This thread is about shutting out the negativity surrounding TPM and enjoying it as best you can.
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Vortigern99
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6/4 2:04pm
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Watching a film in the theater, I find it very entertaining and instructive to "feel out" what the general audience is responding to, to try and get a sense of their collective reactions, their degree of attention to the movie, and their overall feeling of being successfully entertained. I saw TPM 7 times in the theater, and each time -- or almost each time -- I could feel audience interest lagging during the Tatooine sequence, and during the Coruscant scenes, among other places. I could hear almost 100% dead silence during most of Jar Jar's supposedly funny "gags". At the end, compared to the resoundingly positive and cheerful audience responses to the SE movies, and to other "event" films I've attended in the theater, TPM had a generally lackluster audience reaction. This has always colored my perception of the movie somewhat; the idea that TPM is not as beloved as the old films is still with me when I watch it on DVD. I often think to myself: "This beat feels strained or awkward here; that editing could be tighter there to keep audience interest higher", and so on.
That said, however, ulitmately, watching any SW film is for me a personal experience. I might allow certain thoughts to drift through my mind -- discussions I've had on-line or with RL friends, or professional critiques that I've read or heard about -- but foremost in my thoughts is the willingness to suspend those external distractions, and be caught up in the story, the characters, and the world of SW. So, to answer the question, it is impossible to completely "shut out" the negativity that others have foisted onto the movie, or indeed to shut out my own criticisms, but it is not the major factor foremost in my mind.
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BigBoy29
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6/4 10:34pm
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^^^
I like your explanation Vort. Rarely do people bring up the dichotomy between "personal" and "what happened in the theater" - both are important ways of us fans for remembering SW and our love for it all.
You're really on to something here.
I could write a 4 page essay on why the Tatooine sequence was lackluster and why my views on the film are steeped in a haze of trying to enjoy a kids movie with a interesting set up. I could deliberate on this for hours.
Or I could just recall when Jinn gets stabbed by Maul - and how it seemed everybody in the theater seemed to shift in their seat - I never seen that collective response in all my life at the movies.
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JEDI-RISING
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6/5 8:36am
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I loved TPM when it came out. It made me feel like a kid again. By the time AOTC came out, it wasn't the same experience. The haters had worn me down.
I've seen it 31 times now. The movie still flows at a nice pace, to me. There's nothing i particularly dislike. It's my favorite prequel to watch. ROTS is probably better, but it's a sad movie to watch. TPM is a beautiful looking movie, and i can watch it without feeling bummed out too much.
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Strilo
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6/5 8:42am
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So you were unable to shut out the negativity?
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DRush76
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6/5 3:04pm
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For me, Temple of Doom has always been not only my favorite Indy film but one of my favorite films period, but its never really bothered me that a lot of people dislike it, its always perplexed me in some way but I can also understand why people dislike it (different from the original, too dark and unpleasant, not much character development, etc), and there are enough people that agree with me as well, but in the end it doesn't really matter.
OMG!! You're a "TEMPLE OF DOOM" fan too? So am I! Not only is it my favorite INDY film, but it's my all time favorite adventure film.
I saw TPM 7 times in the theater, and each time -- or almost each time -- I could feel audience interest lagging during the Tatooine sequence, and during the Coruscant scenes, among other places.
I was like that when I first saw TPM. Actually, I was also like that during the sequence in ANH with Threepio and Artoo on Tatooine, and Luke on Dagobah in ESB. Thanks to video and DVDs, I've grown accustomed to all of these sequences.
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Padmes_love_slave24
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6/5 9:22pm
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I don't understand why some PT fans need validation from the fickle media, I honestly could care less what they think of Star Wars, in my opinion the media never embraced Star Wars until the world embraced Star Wars, and no matter how much people try to tear down the accomplishments of the PT, a lot of people still love it, I don't ever let anyone tell me how to think
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Go-Mer-Tonic
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I just don't watch or listen to the media.
Problem solved. 
No Paris Hilton, no crazy diseases from birds cows or mosquitos, no terrorism, life is good again.
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JEDI-RISING
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I love Temple of Doom too.
I get mad. Idiot film critics constantly find ways to bash TPM. i fired off an email to one here in Phoenix a couple weeks ago. But i certainly shut out the negativity when i think of the movie. And it's never affected me watching it. After seeing it 31 times, if it was really bad i'd know it by now. I can see some flaws in ATOC, but not TPM. They hardly ever criticize the story, it's "jar jar sucks!". Yeah and you're 30 something and jaded. I bet you laugh at the Three Stooges and Bugs Bunny, and what's the difference?
Kids laughed at jar jar in the theatre, and that's what it's all about.
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Arawn_Fenn
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6/6 10:45am
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I always get Temple of Doom confused with The Goonies.
(Because they both have Short Round and runaway mine carts.)
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obi-rob-kenobi4
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when it comes to TPM i think of all the awesome things about it that are simple to be happy for
1.)we first get to see what the jedi were like
2.)we get to finally see what the old republic was like
3.)we get the duel of the fates
4.)we get to see the first appearance of the sith
5.)we get to see the podrace
6.)gui-gon was a fan favorite
7.)we first get to see who the mother of luke and leia is
and than i compare the good things to all that bad things about the movie
1.)way too much jar-jar
2.)a few little nit-picky things like "yipee"
and when i look at it like that its really not bad at all and just as good as the rest of the saga.
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anidanami124
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6/11 5:55pm
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All put it to people this way what's bad to one person won't be bad to another. I mean really as much as we dislike them we all know there are at lest some people out there that like Batman and Robin a long with the movie Gigli. More power to them I guess.
I just don't really care. There are people out there that don't like the band Epica or After Forever but really what do I care. I enjoyed TPM and don't have a problem with it.
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