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TPM fans: How easy is it for you to "shut out" the negativity?
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DarthDuckie
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Jan '04
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6/11 7:36pm
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RE: TPM fans: How easy is it for you to "shut out" the negativity?
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I think if you really like something, and you're secure in the fact that your opinion is as valid as anyone else's, no amount of negativity from others should detract from you're enjoyment of that thing.
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DarthBader
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6/13 4:36pm
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RE: TPM fans: How easy is it for you to "shut out" the negativity?
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Short Round + Indiana Jones = Great Movie
Duel between Jinn, Kenobi and Maul made me forget all the small flaws with TPM. I think the duel made the whole movie great
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battlewars
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6/17 1:35am
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RE: TPM fans: How easy is it for you to "shut out" the negativity?
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drg4 posted:
battlewars posted:
Arawn_Fenn posted:
[quote=battlewars]BTW I HATED TPM even though I saw it 20 times in the theater.
Well, that's odd.
It took me that long to get used to the awfulness and accept it.
Are you serious? I wouldn't see a movie twenty times if my sister had top billing. [/quote]
Thats how much I loved the OT.
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drg4
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I'm sorry, but that's strange. I mean, I was a fairly devoted Christian years ago, but one viewing of Mel Gibson's Golgotha Chainsaw Massacre was one too many. I would of called Gibson's estate, demanding my seven dollars back, but figured he might eventually use the cash for therapy.
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zombie
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6/17 8:56am
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It's a pretty common occurance, actually. People really wanted to like it, tried to like it, gave it second and third chances when people said "give it another chance", and over time the things that didn't bug you as much on your initial viewings become more and more obvious as flaws. And depending on age, some people might also have grown up or had their tastes mature. I think the fact that the films are quite dense also contributed to the slower process of prequels fan exodus--there's a lot going on in the films, actually, so when people go on about all sorts of thematic complexity, etc, it made a lot of people think "oh yeah, maybe the critics are wrong..." and belay any rejection even further. I think for a lot of people who turned away the appreciation of a few themes and symbols is not enough to create an emotionally and dramatically moving viewing experience, it just took a while for that to finally sink in.
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drg4
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Visualize a man walking out of a theater with a grimace twenty times, and you'd agree. It's strange.
Seriously, count to twenty.
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zombie
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Yeah twenty is a lot. I guess if Star Wars fans are anything they are obsessive.
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Go-Mer-Tonic
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For me, if something sucks I note it and move on.
I don't want to be the guy with his arms folded not having a good time, so I avoid that situation if I can help it.
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EECHUUTA
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6/17 12:58pm
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drg4 posted:
I'm sorry, but that's strange. I mean, I was a fairly devoted Christian years ago, but one viewing of Mel Gibson's Golgotha Chainsaw Massacre was one too many. I would of called Gibson's estate, demanding my seven dollars back, but figured he might eventually use the cash for therapy.
You were a fairly devoted Christian? What happened?
I agree with many folks as it being odd when I hear of someone seeing a movie they didn't like twenty times. I can understand one or twice or even three, but twenty? 
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battlewars
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It was out for 7 or 8 months in the theaters, spread 20 times out across that time frame its not that strange guys.
Then again maybe it is, know any good doctors? 
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drg4
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EECHUUTA posted:
You were a fairly devoted Christian? What happened?
Long story short: I'm just too damn angry. At my government, my country, the way the world is, and this has silenced the inner music that sustained me in my post-adolescence. I used to spend my nights reading Thomas Merton; now I wonder whether Christ's revolution of Love was anything but a sentimentalist dream.
I'd best stop here, before I hijack my own thread.
battlewars posted:
It was out for 7 or 8 months in the theaters, spread 20 times out across that time frame its not that strange guys.
See, I'm the inverse. When I hate a movie, I try to expunge it from memory. I gave my copy of Return of the Jedi to my little cousin, and spent an hour digging up Attack of the Clones after Vortigern recommended I listen to it on a foreign track.
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battlewars
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6/17 4:31pm
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Like I said I was a huge OT fan, and I had been obsessed with more Star Wars since 1987 when I first read of the prequels in Starlog, not to mention the fact that the prequels even after TPM release still held so much promise. Star Wars and George Lucas were God to me then even after how much I hated TPM.
Can you understand now a little why I would see a film that I hated that many times?
If not do you know any good shrinks?
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zombie
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6/17 4:59pm
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RE: TPM fans: How easy is it for you to "shut out" the negativity?
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I think the difference in what Battlewars is talking about, and I could be wrong in ascribing this to him, is that he didn't hate it coming out of the theater; that something felt "off", there was a dissapointment that he was unable to admit to, and tried to see it again to see if the film would grow on him. I've heard about this from many people, and there are enough things in the film--visuals, excitement--that if you are lukewarm about the film and want to like it, multiple viewings can be sustained. The people that hated the film, that walked out and said "that sucked!" probably never saw it again, but a lot of fans simply felt dissapointed, they didn't hate the film they just didn't like it, and tried to see it a bunch more times to see if it would grow on them, or just liked the fact that "its Star Wars after sixteen years!" and found enjoyment in seeing the film in that respect.
Though I think I would have a hard time seeing even the original twenty times in a single summer. 
I guess when people say "how could TPM be so hated when it made so much money?"--here is your answer.
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FirBholg
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I have plenty of practice holding minority opinions on many subjects. That other people dislike TPM is not going to make me appreciate it any less. Tuning out the negativity is essentially a non-issue. If I am in the position of defending the film to non-fans, I simply accentuate the positive.
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battlewars
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6/17 5:12pm
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zombie posted:
Though I think I would have a hard time seeing even the original twenty times in a single summer.
Well theres the difference between you and me Zombie, I think I would've seen the original Star Wars 20 times in one summer if I had been older at the time.
But like I said I didn't see TPM 20 times in one summer, it played past Xmas that year so I saw it different times all through its run.
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