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Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon Registered: Dec '00	Date Posted: 11/17/08 6:18am Subject: RE: Is Natalie Portman A Good Person?.
	Strilo posted: We should be careful about comments, even joking, about racial stereotypes. We want to avoid someone getting offended on a religious or ethnic level. But this IS the board for discussing the prequels, where the stereotyping comes from, right? Neimoidians = Japanese stereotypes: weaselly businessmen with bad lip sync Gungans = Jamaican stereotypes: lanky simpletons (except for the few rich who are obese simpletons) Watto = Jewish stereotype: big nosed, greedy merchant Sandpeople = Native American stereotypes: animal-like savages who enact raids on 'civilized' homesteads If someone's on a message board to discuss the PT, then they've already encountered these offensive stereotypes, and bringing them up here doesn't make them any more or less offensive. -----signature----- Personally if treating homosexuals with respect and dignity is the definition of 'anti-Christian' then I hope that Obama is the friggin' anti-Christ. - FIDo
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Strilo Title: Manager: • Music • Prequel Trilogy Registered: Aug '01	Date Posted: 11/17/08 7:37am Subject: RE: Is Natalie Portman A Good Person?.
	Did I forbid them? Or did I say "be careful"? -----signature----- #1 on iTunes Most Played: The Killers "Human" #1 on iTunes Most Played Scores: Fellowship of the Ring "Bilbo's Ring" ---------- They will not force us. They will stop degrading us. They will not control us. We will be victorious.
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nancyallen Registered: Nov '07	Date Posted: 11/17/08 1:34pm Subject: RE: Is Natalie Portman A Good Person?.
	I thought the Sand People were more an allegory to Middle Eastern Muslim Islamics, driving foreigners from their land. Same difference, except the Indians perhaps became more tolerant and capeable of living with the settlers than the Sand People were. Could the Sith be an example of those who reject religious teachings perhaps? -----signature----- There are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in your science. http://www.tektonics.org/af/fundyath.html
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Merlin_Ambrosius69 Registered: Aug '08	Date Posted: 11/17/08 1:38pm Subject: RE: Is Natalie Portman A Good Person?.
	To nitpick for a moment, Native Americans only became "tolerant" of Anglo-Saxon incursion into their territory because 10 million of them were obliterated over the course of four centuries. I would rather call that "forced compliance" than "tolerance". -----signature----- "Chance makes playthings of us all." -- Seneca Shameless non-Manager Emeritus sock of Vortigern99. Fan of George RR Martin, JK Rowling and JRR Tolkien.
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DarthBoba Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 11/17/08 1:40pm Subject: RE: Is Natalie Portman A Good Person?. - Date Edited: 11/17/08 1:41pm (1 edits total) Edited By: DarthBoba
	nancyallen posted: I thought the Sand People were more an allegory to Middle Eastern Muslim Islamics, driving foreigners from their land. Same difference, except the Indians perhaps became more tolerant and capeable of living with the settlers than the Sand People were. Could the Sith be an example of those who reject religious teachings perhaps? No the Sith would be the looneys who think "God's will" translates into "blowing up abortion clinics". Sith doctrine is Jedi goals without the inherent sense of respect for people's individual rights and a good dose of "I'm right because I have the Force." -----signature----- Only a Prime can defeat Vader and his Emperor.
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Master_Starwalker Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Sep '03	Date Posted: 11/17/08 7:29pm Subject: RE: Is Natalie Portman A Good Person?. - Date Edited: 11/17/08 7:30pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Master_Starwalker
	nancyallen posted: I thought the Sand People were more an allegory to Middle Eastern Muslim Islamics, driving foreigners from their land. Same difference, except the Indians perhaps became more tolerant and capeable of living with the settlers than the Sand People were. Only once the Native Americans were slaughtered and forced to comply. Your parallel between Middle Eastern Muslims driving foreigners out of their land is also a bit of a stretch given that if the Tuskens tried to drive out the settlers, they utterly failed while Muslims were quite successful at it. nancyallen posted: Could the Sith be an example of those who reject religious teachings perhaps? No. As Darth Boba pointed out, the Sith would be an example of those who force their viewpoint on others through force and the state. -----signature----- "Imaginary is the future. Always now, even eternity will be." - Yoda "We can never obtain peace in the outer world until we make peace with ourselves." - The 14th Dalai Lama
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obi-rob-kenobi4 Registered: Apr '07	Date Posted: 11/17/08 9:37pm Subject: RE: Is Natalie Portman A Good Person?.
	I never really saw any racial stereotypes in star wars, i think its just in peoples heads. I mean come on, do you really think lucas was thinking about race rather than just characters? any similarity's is just coincidence IMO. -----signature----- "You call THIS a diplomatic solution?" "No, I call it aggressive negotiations." so this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause..... who am I, where am I going? -Tony Soprano
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nancyallen Registered: Nov '07	Date Posted: 11/18/08 5:37am Subject: RE: Is Natalie Portman A Good Person?.
	I think this was even written up somewhere but arn't the heroes dominently American and the villians British? There is also the fact the Empire was intended as an allegory to the Nazis. -----signature----- There are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in your science. http://www.tektonics.org/af/fundyath.html
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DarthBoba Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 11/18/08 5:55am Subject: RE: Is Natalie Portman A Good Person?.
	In ANH they were-all the Imperials were mostly British and all the Rebels were mostly Americans. (Obi-Wan obviously being an exception.) -----signature----- Only a Prime can defeat Vader and his Emperor.
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Strilo Title: Manager: • Music • Prequel Trilogy Registered: Aug '01	Date Posted: 11/18/08 7:06am Subject: RE: Is Natalie Portman A Good Person?.
	Let's get back on the topic of Natalie Portman being a good person. -----signature----- #1 on iTunes Most Played: The Killers "Human" #1 on iTunes Most Played Scores: Fellowship of the Ring "Bilbo's Ring" ---------- They will not force us. They will stop degrading us. They will not control us. We will be victorious.
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Merlin_Ambrosius69 Registered: Aug '08	Date Posted: 11/18/08 9:40am Subject: RE: Is Natalie Portman A Good Person?.
	Refresh my memory as to when that was ever the topic of this thread? I liked it better when we were poking fun at the (imminently fun-pokeable) topic of this thread. -----signature----- "Chance makes playthings of us all." -- Seneca Shameless non-Manager Emeritus sock of Vortigern99. Fan of George RR Martin, JK Rowling and JRR Tolkien.
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DarthBoba Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 11/18/08 9:42am Subject: RE: Is Natalie Portman A Good Person?. - Date Edited: 11/18/08 9:42am (1 edits total) Edited By: DarthBoba
	I'm amazed that this thread ever made it past 100 posts, honestly. -----signature----- Only a Prime can defeat Vader and his Emperor.
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obi-rob-kenobi4 Registered: Apr '07	Date Posted: 11/18/08 11:39am Subject: RE: Is Natalie Portman A Good Person?. - Date Edited: 11/18/08 11:40am (1 edits total) Edited By: obi-rob-kenobi4
	lol So......how bout that Natalie Portman -----signature----- "You call THIS a diplomatic solution?" "No, I call it aggressive negotiations." so this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause..... who am I, where am I going? -Tony Soprano
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DarthBoba Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 11/18/08 12:05pm Subject: RE: Is Natalie Portman A Good Person?.
	I hear her touch heals all injuries and brings hope to the strong, and desolation to one's enemies. -----signature----- Only a Prime can defeat Vader and his Emperor.
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SithStarSlayer Registered: Oct '03	Date Posted: 11/18/08 2:37pm Subject: RE: Is Natalie Portman A Good Person?.
	I imagine her touch could be worth sooo much more... Why yes, yes I AM a . -----signature----- Lucas didn't ruin my childhood but he sure wrecked Vader's ^^Foolish men mistake transitory semblance 4 eternal fact^^ o[]\|\|]ooooooooo[0]\|\|[]{ Gal: 5:19-21 Philippians 2:9-11
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