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-Courtney- Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 12/18/08 10:01pm Subject: So What The Hell Was Wrong With Anakin?
	I had a similar discussion on some Batman forums about the villains. Basically we diagnosed what mental illness each of them had. So what do you think made Anakin snap like that? I think he might be bi-polar or manic depressive. -----signature----- http://pyro-the-maniac.deviantart.com/ "Genius is one percent inspiration, and ninety-nine percent persperation." -Edison "If Edison were smarter, he wouldn't have to work so hard." -Tesla
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Qui-Gon_Reborn Title: Qui-Gon's Personal SWC Modsaber Registered: Dec '08	Date Posted: 12/18/08 10:22pm Subject: RE: So What The Hell Was Wrong With Anakin?
	Um...are you serious? -----signature----- Twenty years ago, there was another Edward with a strange disposition and even stranger hair that the ladies swooned over. This Edward had scissors for hands, but he was much, much cooler.
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_Sublime_Skywalker_ Registered: May '04	Date Posted: 12/18/08 11:35pm Subject: RE: So What The Hell Was Wrong With Anakin?
	So What The Hell Was Wrong With Anakin? He was human. Not that he should've been an alien, or anything. -----signature----- 'You don't know the Power of the Darkside!'-Darth Vader
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zombie Registered: Aug '99	Date Posted: 12/18/08 11:38pm Subject: RE: So What The Hell Was Wrong With Anakin?
	I really don't think normal humans slaughter women and children and are prone to mood swings and anger issues the way Anakin was. -----signature----- The Secret History of Star Wars -- now available in print http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com
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Master_Starwalker Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Sep '03	Date Posted: 12/18/08 11:42pm Subject: RE: So What The Hell Was Wrong With Anakin?
	Attachment lead to fear. Fear lead to anger, anger lead to hate, hate lead to suffering. Psychologically, the APA said they think he has borderline personality disorder. -----signature----- "Imaginary is the future. Always now, even eternity will be." - Yoda "We can never obtain peace in the outer world until we make peace with ourselves." - The 14th Dalai Lama
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DarthTerrious Registered: May '01	Date Posted: 12/18/08 11:45pm Subject: RE: So What The Hell Was Wrong With Anakin?
	There was nothing "wrong" with him. He just listened to others (re Palpatine) instead of his conscience, when he did things which were wrong. He knew sub-consciously they were wrong but consciously he did them anyway. He made his life's mission about power because he feared loss but didnt seem to understand the consequences of such a mission. Although its interesting to note that as Darth Vader he accepts his mask for his failure, and tried to leave his old self, Anakin Skywalker, behind. But he couldnt hide from who he was and eventually came face to face with his past (through Luke) and listened to his conscience and did what was right. Comparing him to Batman villains devalues him IMHO, as he shows redeeming qualities and didn't thoroughly accept evil in the end. -----signature----- In Keano we trust. ITFC through and through.
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DARTH-SMELLY-FEET Registered: Nov '07	Date Posted: 12/19/08 2:09am Subject: RE: So What The Hell Was Wrong With Anakin?
	He was an idiot. -----signature----- Time is a great teacher, pity it kills all of its students.
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Darth_Pevra Registered: May '08	Date Posted: 12/19/08 6:32am Subject: RE: So What The Hell Was Wrong With Anakin?
	I'll say borderline. He is a real attention whore. -----signature----- Concise and blunt since 1986 My fanfics: http://boards.theforce.net/beyond_the_saga/b10477/29404509/p1/?10 http://boards.theforce.net/the_saga/b10476/29457599/p1/?4
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JEDIGUNSHIP Title: C&G Game Host Registered: May '08	Date Posted: 12/19/08 10:11am Subject: RE: So What The Hell Was Wrong With Anakin?
	Anakin was human, and instead of doing what was right, he decided to give into temptation. It was his choice, not because it was caused by some kind of mental disorder. -----signature----- Blue and yellow make a green lightsaber. How do you get red out of blue? Council Member in the New Jedi Trials/ Commander-in-Chief of the Rebel Alliance Addicted to Rock Band 2 and Proud of It! SWC Secret Rebel '09 Band Geek For Life!
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DarthBoba Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 12/19/08 10:21am Subject: RE: So What The Hell Was Wrong With Anakin? - Date Edited: 12/19/08 10:24am (1 edits total) Edited By: DarthBoba
	zombie posted: I really don't think normal humans slaughter women and children and are prone to mood swings and anger issues the way Anakin was. Most people don't get taken away from their mothers at 9 or see them brutally tortured to death over a period of months, either. Comparing normal people to Anakin's situation is utterly absurd, because they're not remotely similar. On a wider note, I think attaching real-world mental diseases to any character from SW undermines the points being made with said character, and clashes horribly with the fact that it's a fantasy story and a myth. It's like thinking Achilles probably used steroids. -----signature----- Only a Prime can defeat Vader and his Emperor.
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SithStarSlayer Registered: Oct '03	Date Posted: 12/19/08 10:48am Subject: RE: So What The Hell Was Wrong With Anakin?
	DARTH-SMELLY-FEET posted: He was an idiot. The character? Or the writer? To quote old Ben here: "Who is the BIGGER idiot? The idiot? Or the idiot who wrote for him to be that way?" I concur with Zombie. Normal sentient-beings don't whack innocent bystanders when mommy dies. No matter how bad the method of death was. Only a psychopath would slaughter a whole village and then blame his morally-sound teacher. While I'm at it, only a moron would fall in love with that kind of person. Now, I understand why she lost the will to live. Padme was a moron. -----signature----- Lucas didn't ruin my childhood but he sure wrecked Vader's ^^Foolish men mistake transitory semblance 4 eternal fact^^ o[]\|\|]ooooooooo[0]\|\|[]{ Gal: 5:19-21 Philippians 2:9-11
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Master_Starwalker Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Sep '03	Date Posted: 12/19/08 11:19am Subject: RE: So What The Hell Was Wrong With Anakin?
	DarthBoba posted: On a wider note, I think attaching real-world mental diseases to any character from SW undermines the points being made with said character, and clashes horribly with the fact that it's a fantasy story and a myth. It's like thinking Achilles probably used steroids. Agreed. -----signature----- "Imaginary is the future. Always now, even eternity will be." - Yoda "We can never obtain peace in the outer world until we make peace with ourselves." - The 14th Dalai Lama
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JEDIGUNSHIP Title: C&G Game Host Registered: May '08	Date Posted: 12/19/08 11:20am Subject: RE: So What The Hell Was Wrong With Anakin?
	I agree as well. -----signature----- Blue and yellow make a green lightsaber. How do you get red out of blue? Council Member in the New Jedi Trials/ Commander-in-Chief of the Rebel Alliance Addicted to Rock Band 2 and Proud of It! SWC Secret Rebel '09 Band Geek For Life!
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zombie Registered: Aug '99	Date Posted: 12/19/08 11:32am Subject: RE: So What The Hell Was Wrong With Anakin?
	So if your mother was tortured by kidnappers and ultimately killed by them, you'd slaughter all of their children, mothers, daughters, wives and sons as well? I can understand lashing out in anger at the people responsible but surely going on a tribal-wide slaughter of EVERY living thing including women and children who simply happen to live in proximity is a tad...much. Anakin was an idiot psychopath. Anakin wasn't traumatised as a kid or anything--he had a cushier life than LUKE, despite being a slave it was more in title than in practice, he had great fun building stuff and racing with his friends, he had a warm mother and a pretty cool owner (really, just a boss--kids don't have much freedom in the first place anyway), and he chose to leave home to have adventures as a Jedi when he was old enough to handle such things. No doubt this must have left him feeling homesick, but to the point where you can BUTCHER innocent women and children with a sword?? Come on guys, get real. Anakin has no real defense here. He probably had severe chemical imbalances. -----signature----- The Secret History of Star Wars -- now available in print http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com
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Master_Starwalker Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Sep '03	Date Posted: 12/19/08 11:37am Subject: RE: So What The Hell Was Wrong With Anakin?
	Anakin's problem stems from his attachment, not a chemical imbalance. It's like saying Palpatine would have been a good guy if he took medication. Star Wars is archetypal and thus tends towards mythic explanations rather than medical ones(see: "lost the will to live.") -----signature----- "Imaginary is the future. Always now, even eternity will be." - Yoda "We can never obtain peace in the outer world until we make peace with ourselves." - The 14th Dalai Lama
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DarthBoba Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 12/19/08 11:38am Subject: RE: So What The Hell Was Wrong With Anakin?
	No, if Anakin was a psychopath then the ending of ROTJ makes absolutely no sense at all, as he wouldn't care one way or the other if Luke was his son. Likewise, it wouldn't bother him that he murdered the entire Tusken village, which it obviously does, given that he's sobbing hysterically after doing so. He sure doesn't feel good about it. He wouldn't care about Padme dying either-she'd be just another object, and not real from his point of view. Anakin gave in to his anger and the Dark Side simply made it far out of proportion to any normal person's reactions. Labelling him-or frankly, anyone-in Star Wars with real mental diseases completely ignores the fact that the Dark Side isn't real and that for Jedi, "angry" equals "murderous". Look at Luke in ROTJ; a normally kind and caring individual goes nearly (completely) out of control when Vader threatens his sister. Force sensitivity, for whatever reason, makes your emotions thicken to the point where your wrath is about like God in the Old Testament. -----signature----- Only a Prime can defeat Vader and his Emperor.
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