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Strilo Title: Manager: • Music • Prequel Trilogy Registered: Aug '01	Date Posted: 10/28 6:39am Subject: The Phantom Menace 10 years - revisiting the beginning of the prequel era
	They what? It totally counts as a new track, a new theme. And wow. The score for TPM is amazing. It's very rich, dense with themes old and new and very Star Wars feeling. -----signature----- #1 on iTunes Most Played: The Killers "Human" #1 on iTunes Most Played Scores: Fellowship of the Ring "Bilbo's Ring" ---------- They will not force us. They will stop degrading us. They will not control us. We will be victorious.
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X-Factor Registered: Jul '09	Date Posted: 10/28 1:47pm Subject: The Phantom Menace 10 years - revisiting the beginning of the prequel era
	Strilo posted: They what? It totally counts as a new track, a new theme. And wow. The score for TPM is amazing. It's very rich, dense with themes old and new and very Star Wars feeling. I agree. It think it's the best soundtrack from the Prequel Trilogy. Certainly way better than the ROTS soundtrack. -----signature----- Proud member of the Democrat Socialist Party.
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SithStarSlayer Registered: Oct '03	Date Posted: 10/28 2:22pm Subject: The Phantom Menace 10 years - revisiting the beginning of the prequel era
	I still have the vinyl ESB record, scratches and all... BEst. EvAr. -----signature----- Lucas didn't ruin my childhood but he sure wrecked Vader's ^^Foolish men mistake transitory semblance 4 eternal fact^^ o[]\|\|]ooooooooo[0]\|\|[]{ Gal: 5:19-21 Philippians 2:9-11
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vader_girl Registered: Sep '03	Date Posted: 10/28 2:57pm Subject: The Phantom Menace 10 years - revisiting the beginning of the prequel era
	SithStarSlayer posted: I still have the vinyl ESB record, scratches and all... BEst. EvAr. My husband still has his. -----signature----- One alternate ending to ROTS: "Chancellor, you're full of crap. This opera sucks. I'm going home to my wife."
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SithStarSlayer Registered: Oct '03	Date Posted: 10/28 4:56pm Subject: The Phantom Menace 10 years - revisiting the beginning of the prequel era
	I can't explain it... but the crackles and isps that precede each track lend a je ne sais quoi to the listening experience that no other medium can provide. -----signature----- Lucas didn't ruin my childhood but he sure wrecked Vader's ^^Foolish men mistake transitory semblance 4 eternal fact^^ o[]\|\|]ooooooooo[0]\|\|[]{ Gal: 5:19-21 Philippians 2:9-11
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Dark_Jedi_Kenobi Title: Manager: • Prequel Trilogy Registered: Oct '04	Date Posted: 10/29 6:21pm Subject: The Phantom Menace 10 years - revisiting the beginning of the prequel era
	I think TPM is one of the stronger soundtracks of the saga, I'd rank it #2 in the prequels (behind ROTS).
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Juan-King Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 11/2 6:02am Subject: The Phantom Menace 10 years - revisiting the beginning of the prequel era
	It's the one SW film I hardly ever watch , haven't watched it in years actually , it never really felt like a SW film to me . JJB and jake lloyd drag it down and Portman is so dull . -----signature----- Everybody loves Juan King
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Chewgumma Registered: Apr '09	Date Posted: 11/2 6:15am Subject: The Phantom Menace 10 years - revisiting the beginning of the prequel era - Date Edited: 11/2 6:35am (2 edits total) Edited By: Chewgumma
	Everyone who thinks Jake Lloyd did a poor job as Anakin should check out TPM bonus DVD and watch the documentaries about picking an actor for the role. They contain audition tapes for Jake Lloyd and a few other kids that were shortlisted for playing Anakin. The only decent audition out of what we see is JL's. And when you watch the behind the scenes footage of him signing his contract and playing on the Tatooine set you can't help but realise what a naturalistic performance he gave. I think people should cut the kid some slack given that their issues are with the lines that came out of his mouth, not the way they were delivered. One thing I noticed when watching TPM the other day was the warmth given by the use of film. AOTC and ROTS were shot in digital and while I adore the films the camera work comes off mainly as cold and heartless. TPM has small ammounts of film grain that gives the picture a warmer, dream like feel which is much more in line with the OT. -----signature----- I grew up on the street. No not the 'hood, the Sesame Street. Behold the power of edit! Saviour of the moron! Darthhelinith's soon to be partner in headbanging! JC Musketeer Official Time Lord of the CCC!
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Juan-King Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 11/2 6:34am Subject: The Phantom Menace 10 years - revisiting the beginning of the prequel era
	Chewgumma posted: The people who think Jake Lloyd did a poor job as Anakin should check out TPM bonus DVD and watch the documentaries about picking an actor for the role. They contain audition tapes for Jake Lloyd and a few other kids that were shortlisted for playing Anakin. The only decent audition out of what we see is JL's. And when you watch the behind the scenes footage of him signing his contract and playing on the Tatooine set you can't help but realise what a naturalistic performance he gave. I think people should cut the kid some slack given that their issues are with the lines that came out of his mouth, not the way they were delivered. yeah I've watched the extras , doesn't change anything , he still gave a rotten performance, not just the lines , his delivery is awful as well . -----signature----- Everybody loves Juan King
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Chewgumma Registered: Apr '09	Date Posted: 11/2 6:42am Subject: The Phantom Menace 10 years - revisiting the beginning of the prequel era
	Juan-King posted: yeah I've watched the extras , doesn't change anything , he still gave a rotten performance, not just the lines , his delivery is awful as well . But here is the thing you forget, Jake was only a child at the time and great child actors are rare. They don't have the emotional intensity at such an age to deliver a truly great performance. Besides Jake played Anakin as himself. You can't get more naturalistic than that. Take a look at the scene where Anakin refuses to leave Shmi, you can genuinely see a distraught little boy who is forced by an unfair galaxy to leave his mother. And in the scene where Anakin and Qui-Gon are on the balcony looking at the stars there is a little boy who is really filled with wonder. Compare this to Daniel Logan's flat delivery and refusal to shout his two lines that required any form of intensity and you realise what a good CHILD ACTOR Jake Lloyd is. -----signature----- I grew up on the street. No not the 'hood, the Sesame Street. Behold the power of edit! Saviour of the moron! Darthhelinith's soon to be partner in headbanging! JC Musketeer Official Time Lord of the CCC!
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Juan-King Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 11/2 8:36am Subject: The Phantom Menace 10 years - revisiting the beginning of the prequel era
	Chewgumma posted: Juan-King posted: yeah I've watched the extras , doesn't change anything , he still gave a rotten performance, not just the lines , his delivery is awful as well . But here is the thing you forget, Jake was only a child at the time and great child actors are rare. They don't have the emotional intensity at such an age to deliver a truly great performance. have you ever seen ET ? ALIENS? SIXTH SENSE ? Children can give great performances -----signature----- Everybody loves Juan King
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Chewgumma Registered: Apr '09	Date Posted: 11/2 8:41am Subject: The Phantom Menace 10 years - revisiting the beginning of the prequel era
	I think you are overstating the above, especially Newt in aliens. There is nothing especially great about the above performances, and nothing that elevates them above Jake Lloyd either. It's the dialogue that makes the roles so memorable, not the performances. -----signature----- I grew up on the street. No not the 'hood, the Sesame Street. Behold the power of edit! Saviour of the moron! Darthhelinith's soon to be partner in headbanging! JC Musketeer Official Time Lord of the CCC!
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Merlin_Ambrosius69 Registered: Aug '08	Date Posted: 11/2 11:29am Subject: The Phantom Menace 10 years - revisiting the beginning of the prequel era
	I like Lloyd in the role and I've never understood the problem some fans have with his performance. To me he seems spontaneous, thoughtful, casual, and a little goofy. I dislike some of his line readings in the fighter cockpit, but if I'm not mistaken I believe those were among the first scenes he shot, before he caught his stride. Lloyd is really at his best interfacing with adults, especially Liam Neeson and most especially at the dinner scene. -----signature----- "Chance makes playthings of us all." -- Seneca Shameless non-Manager Emeritus sock of Vortigern99. Fan of George RR Martin, JK Rowling and JRR Tolkien.
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Adali-Kiri Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 11/6 1:19am Subject: The Phantom Menace 10 years - revisiting the beginning of the prequel era
	Chewgumma posted: One thing I noticed when watching TPM the other day was the warmth given by the use of film. AOTC and ROTS were shot in digital and while I adore the films the camera work comes off mainly as cold and heartless. TPM has small ammounts of film grain that gives the picture a warmer, dream like feel which is much more in line with the OT. Then I'm sure you can point out the scenes in TPM that actually ARE shot on digital...? -----signature----- "Don't give in to hate...that leads to the Dark Side."
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Chewgumma Registered: Apr '09	Date Posted: 11/6 1:23am Subject: The Phantom Menace 10 years - revisiting the beginning of the prequel era
	Adali-Kiri posted: Chewgumma posted: One thing I noticed when watching TPM the other day was the warmth given by the use of film. AOTC and ROTS were shot in digital and while I adore the films the camera work comes off mainly as cold and heartless. TPM has small ammounts of film grain that gives the picture a warmer, dream like feel which is much more in line with the OT. Then I'm sure you can point out the scenes in TPM that actually ARE shot on digital...? It must be the quality of the master copy then because I had no clue there was digital cameras used in TPM. Does anyone else notice the film grain in TPM that wasn't there in AOTC or ROTS? -----signature----- I grew up on the street. No not the 'hood, the Sesame Street. Behold the power of edit! Saviour of the moron! Darthhelinith's soon to be partner in headbanging! JC Musketeer Official Time Lord of the CCC!
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